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oh give it a rest Do we have to degenerate into this bbickering all the time. Greg probably thinks were a bunch of babies the way this reads.. There now go to your corners and play nice
Hell i apreciate were your goin and by all means try to make some money but ya change some of that . tell folks what they will have to spend to copy the photo and give some credit where its due.
you can never make alot of money from the person that is willing to do it themsleves and if they are serious they will find ES. otherwise i would not hesitiate if i were you to point them here . the folks youll make money off are the ones that come here and get lost or overloaded but still wanna play. you get to act as guide and guru and make money on the initial sale and more money on support down the road.
must be fun but good god man i used to have a vfr750 and felt scared in that traffic on that big bike . you use trails alot on the commute or roadside up barnett hwy?
Writing the book is a good idea, lots of people arrive here, start reading and are immediately lost in the jargon. The leave even more confused that before. But the web page speil does get a bit heavy handed. It reads way too much like the stuff all the EV liars have put up to sell thier kits. I won't name anybody but we know a few for sure. It's a shame too since some of the motors aren't bad, just thier performance claims are lies. So sounding like them backfires with us that know anyway. Rewrite it so the prospective customer has a more realistic number in mind for his costs to duplicate your build. I don't know what your per copy costs are, but I think you have it priced way too high too. If it's a download, you really will get more money selling it cheaper.
As for the bike, those that call it a wall mart bike need to look closer. The big battery makes it ugly though. A decent FS frame doesn't leave much room for the battery in the frame. I end up putting it on a rear pannier and then handling suffers. For what I do on the bike, I can deal with the handling issues but it's a looooooong way from the elegance you see in a custom frame like the Jester makes.
Lastly, at what point do your customers find out that a motorized bike that goes 50 mph is illegal almost everywhere except off road? Try riding that thing in Phoenix!
I think you've made a nice bike. It looks well finished and it certainly seems to perform well. I'd be interested in seeing some more pics including what's under all those battery enclosures.
LI-ghtcycle said:Good bike, nice job greasy pants! 8)
If your asking, I wouldn't say take of the $6000 figure on the sales pitch, but I WOULD qualify it better by saying that is how much you spend over 5 years building several bikes to get to the point of building what you have now, that and I agree telling your customers approximately what it will cost to build what you have too.
As far as legal concerns, your selling a book for someone to DIY I wouldn't stress the legalities too much, just let them know they need to learn the laws for their local area and follow those laws.
You could always find a place for an electric bike on the road even with that kind of power, you most likely would have to license it as a motorcycle or some type of "experimental" vehicle, but hey, this is a DIY book.
Anyone who has built any kind of aftermarket high-performance engine, pipe or headers for a motorcycle/car has had access to "race track only" hardware that they can buy at the local parts store/shop and use on a street "legal" vehicle. (No need for a show of hands, but you know who you are! hehe )
I think what you SHOULD definitely stress in the book is safety and proper use of the vehicle (i.e. helmets, gloves, leathers etc. for anything over 30 MPH) so that your not seen as promoting someone treating a motorcycle like vehicle more like a pedal bike. :wink:
That being said, go for it! Sell your book and promote E-Biking!!
The more people that get excited about E-Bikes the better, and by all means make some money sharing what you have built.
greasypants said:I think you've made a nice bike. It looks well finished and it certainly seems to perform well. I'd be interested in seeing some more pics including what's under all those battery enclosures.
How is it with 105V, full throttle and no rear suspension? .. I ask cause i had bad experience at just 50km/h with my first setup without rear suspension.. and i've hit a BIIIIg puthole and ii believe me.. I still remember what happened!!
greasypants said:I even passed 2 guys riding harleys going up snake hill in Port Moody once, that had very confused looks on their faces.
I searched for yor previous post and discovered that you visit the E-S since 2007. I now undestand why your name was fresh in my memory!.. but i think you probably left the forum for two years right?
Theirs a harley dealership not more than 3k from my door and i fully intend to take the chopper there and do a smoker in the parking lot
I gotta ask, that left side switch assembly, I'm guessing it's from some form of motorcycle? I had one from something more like an electric scooter that had too small of wiring. It has a switch for a horn, turn signals & head light. Yours looks a lot more substantial, mind if I ask what it's from? I would have been fine with mine if I had remembered I was going to run a solinoid instead of direct current through the switch for my Magic Shine headlight. You can imagine what happened when I allowed a full draw from my 12V power source through 20G wires!
Your bike looks solid. I think it looks like a realization of the wave crest military bike concept.
Is there a forum member discount on the book?
Do you have plans on the 'drawing board' for a full suspension version? as Doc brings
up a good point in one of his replies, travelling at the speed your e-bike is capable of
with no rear suspension could get painful if you hit a sizeable pot hole etc?
greasypants said:I may be in need of some advise soon though. My bike was acting up the other day so I pulled the motor and it looks like I have a few burnt out windings. I guess this happens when you push these motors to the limit. The motor is five years old and probably has close to 10000km on it so I think it's time to replace it.