Giant Anthem SL 0 (Carbon Fiber) Build plus other bikes.

[Falco]

Hi All,
I thought i would share this new build as this build will be a the first time i put the whole bike together myself.
I Have just paid for a new frame so this build will take a couple of months to complete.
I will most likely use my Hyena Industries Hadron mk4 kit i had laying around as this bike will be light weight. I could use my HI4060 Kit but i think it will just weight that little bit too much.

Im using a Giant Anthem sl 0 composite frame. The Plan is to build a carbon fibre battery box in the frame to house 18s3p lipo's.
Hope you all enjoy this build as much as im think im going too..

 

[jana]

Looks good!

 

[litespeed]

I'll be watching this one hard. I'm building a Giant Reign 6" travel bike but using a BMC V2 S on 18s since I already have it. My battery box is being made of wood first time to see how the layout works in the triangle.

Tom

 

[Falco]

Looks good!

Cheers. Lets hope it still looks good at the end

I'll be watching this one hard. I'm building a Giant Reign 6" travel bike but using a BMC V2 S on 18s since I already have it. My battery box is being made of wood first time to see how the layout works in the triangle.

Tom

I was first looking for a Giant Trance(simulat to the Reign) but when this one came up i had to jump on it. The 6" travel would be nice though. This one has 4".
Im unsure if i should go with more then 4" of travel up front though.

 

[litespeed]

All the down hill guys told me to match the front and rear suspension travels. Not sure exactly why but makes logical "mechanical" sense to me. Mine has a 150mm fork and 6" rear travel um close enough. I'd stick to a good 4 inch fork.

Tom

 

[Falco]

All the down hill guys told me to match the front and rear suspension travels. Not sure exactly why but makes logical "mechanical" sense to me. Mine has a 150mm fork and 6" rear travel um close enough. I'd stick to a good 4 inch fork.

Tom

That is really helpful Tom. Thanks for that. I was thinking of sticking to the 4inch travel. I was looking at a fox f100 terralogic.

 

[biohazardman]

I love the plush but precise ride of the Giants. I modded a Trance3 with a V2 and wound up with a near 55LB bike. I built up some heavy wheels with 12ga spokes and some extra heavy tubes. It adds up but since it's motorized the weight means less so I think more in strength than weight. Been thinking about batteries in the triangle but just never seem to get around to it. I carry 4.6 AH @ 66V so around 13-15 miles of very little pedaling. If I want to go more miles I carry another battery pack in my backpack. Take along a charger if I want more range than that as I don't have my trailer brackets made yet. 6k+ on it with few problems other than a toasted controller my fault. Dont forget to upgrade your brakes since you go faster you want to stop faster as well.

Nice frame you have there it's a great start and good luck with your build.

 

[Falco]

Thought it was time for an update. This build got side lined for a few months due to moving house and work. The Plans have evolved for this build as time has gone by.
Parts aquired so far include:
Fox talas 140mm front forks,
Hope stealth V4 203mm disc brakes front and back,
18s4p Lipo battery mounted in the middle of the frame in a FalconEV bag. 66.6v 20ah 25c zippy. Fits like a glove. Using a 60amp continuous BMS for plug and play ebiking.
Dr Bass TA Fixed via 3M DP420

Will start posting some more pics as the build should be moving alot faster now. Im hoping to have it finished by the end of Feb.

 

[litespeed]

What motor did you decide to go with? I ditched my Reign/BMC build when I found a great Giant DH Team bike. I'm using the 4065 and I have to say it's a beast even on an 84 lbs total weight bike. If you have the 4060 you know what I'm talking about. I'm actually temporarily using the Falcon EV pack with 24s2p but maxed out due to the small triangle size on the large frame.

Tom

 

[Falco]

Im going to use the Mxus @ 4kw from hyena for now. Im going to if it will fit though, go with a cromotor v2 with 24Fet controller. Ive done test to see if there is space and the drop outs with little force move to 150mm due The nature flex within the carbon fibre.
I know just what you mean about the torque of the H40's. ive been running mine on 24s lipo and 50amps. I would look into turning the juice up but it takes no time to hit top speed already, not to mention i spent most the time trying to keep the front down.
Hopefully when the bike is complete it will be around 32-35kg with the cromotor.

 

[litespeed]

Sounds excellent. I'll be looking forward to more of your updates.

Tom

 

[Falco]

Thought i would upload some pictures of the TA attached to the frame. I was a bit uneasy making the desicion to chemically bond them to the frame as it was a permanent change. Im very happy how they turned out though. I modified Dr Bass TA with an angle grinder to get them to fit snug. I think this will be the best way to transfer the torque through the swing arm on this carbon fibre frame. The drop outs are aluminum but turns to carbon fibre 5 cm up the swing arm so there was a good surface to bond on. I test fitted the MXUS motor and it fits perfectly so i must have lined them up good

 

[boo]

looking forward to your build.
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[pendragon8000]

its coming along now, nice work. where did you get the glue for the drop outs?

 

[Falco]

its coming along now, nice work. where did you get the glue for the drop outs?

Cheer,
I ordered glue from a seller on ebay. Its the 3m DP420. I have 2 extra tube that im going to put up for sale for people in Aus 8)
I hit a bump in the build though. I didnt think much of it for 6months but the bearing cups for the forks were missing when i got the frame. Went to the bike store to get some today and was told they should have been installed from the factory. Now I have to wait an unknown period to get them as there was none in australia so they are on back order.

On a separate note. My Crystalyte 72v50a controlled died, not sure what happen as it was working one day. The next it was dead. Opened it up to find one of the 100v Caps loose in the case. Resolded it in place and still doesnt work. CA lights up but thats it. I think its shorted something out but not sure what. Nothing looks burnt out. It just doesnt work now. So that was all the excuse i needed to upgrade to lyen 18fet 4110 programable controller. While i was inside i noticed mine wasnt programable so no loss there

 

[Rodney64]

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[Tinto]

Looks great.
Plenty of room in that triangle for a decent cf box too.

 

[pendragon8000]

Can anything on CRC work?
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Categories.aspx?CategoryID=86

 

[Falco]

Can anything on CRC work?
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Categories.aspx?CategoryID=86

The Local bike shop managed to track down the Cups i needed. Should have them in 2 weeks. I got my Schlumpf high speed drive today. Ill be doing a big update in the next few days(after nightshift) to show where i am at and where im heading. 1 thing ill be doing is putting lots of photos in as so far this thread is looking Hella Lame atm due to lack of eye candy

 

[pendragon8000]

Lol. We love photos.. but I've found this thread pretty help full
Nice one with schlumpf that's a surprise... you'll be loving that hey?! So you have to grind out the bottom bracket now?

 

[Falco]

Hi All,
Time for an update. Ive attached a few photos of the parts ive aquired so far. Ill be installing the schlumpf drive this week end. I hired the tool from schlumpf direct and have 2 weeks to send it back.
I choose the schlumpf high speed drive mainly because i live in the hills and plan to use a cromotor which means single speed only. With the High speed drive I can gear it cruising speed of 45km/h but also have a low gear incase of electrical issues. High speed drive has a a 30 tooth sprocket but with the drive engaged its the same as a 75 tooth sprocket.
Speaking of Cromotors.. I just ordered methods temp prob V2 version. This should provide more torque then i really ever need and not have to worry about over heating again

 

[Falco]

Here some info on my other bike incase anyone was interested. Its a Giant Talon. I first converted this to to electric with a Hyena Industries Hadron MK4.
It was my first expirence with ebike but i had come from motorbike so this seemed like a good choice. The kit was a lot of fun while it lasted. I got carried away riding off road and cooked it only 3 days after getting it running. Jay was very helpful and recommened I get a higher torque motor due to the hills were i live. That was a good call Jay
I got a H4060 kit with 18fet 50a controller from Hyena Industries as a result. The torque was greatly improved but the speed was somewhat lacking now. Time for 24s lipo then
With this kit on 24s I was getting about 4600watts and a top speed of 62km/h on the flats. This kit lasted 3300km till my controller spat the dummy. I plugged it in and it just stopped working. I suspect something has shorted but there is no easy to spot damage. One of the main 100v caps was loose in the case. Refitting it didnt change anything though. It still doesnt function. Thats when I decided to get a programable 18fet controller from Lyen. I got the 4110 fet 65a version. Boy did this make a difference. Now the bike is running at 6600watt peaks. It pulls really hard now. Top speed is 65km/h on 24s. riding hard though at this power level doesnt take long to warm the motor. Its also good to have features like regen braking, Cruise control and a power switch on the handel bars that turns the controller on and off. Hers some pictures

 

[litespeed]

What are your settings on the lyen controller? I'm running basically the same set up but peaking in the low to mid 5000 watt range.

Looking good on all those parts. What brakes and disks are those? I have Hayes Stroker Ace with 203 disks. I'd like to try the 223's.

Tom

 

[Falco]

What are your settings on the lyen controller? I'm running basically the same set up but peaking in the low to mid 5000 watt range.

Looking good on all those parts. What brakes and disks are those? I have Hayes Stroker Ace with 203 disks. I'd like to try the 223's.

Tom

Hey Tom,
I have the Battery amps set to 64, Phase amps to 170 and this is on 24s lipo. Peak voltage is 100.8 off the charger. My shunt is entered at 1.333. I found that the higher you go with the phase amps the more it peaks above 64 battery amps. With 140 phase amps i was getting 6180watts peak. I picked 170 phase amps because of all the reading i was doing that said keep the phase/battery ratio the same as you increase the current. Peak current on the CA shows 73-74.
The brakes on the new bike im building are Hope Tech V4 evo stealth with 203mm floating disks. These are twin piston mono bloc bad boys 8) The braking surface is 2 x that of my budget hydros on my Talon so im expecting good performance out of them. Hayes stroker ace look simular to these now that ive read abit about them. What speeds are you braking from that requires larger disks?

 

[pendragon8000]

man spewing you blew the hadron rig after three days.
looks like a great bike now. im keen to see how the new bike looks when its all together, its a prety big frame yeah? with bigish forks? should be a gooden