Japanese-made 103450 cells tested: Panasonic NCA103450 and Maxell ICP103450AHR

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Original article: https://www.thunderheartreviews.com/2018/08/japanese-made-103450-li-ion-prismatic.html

I've tested two Japanese-made prismatic cells from Panasonic and Maxell. They both are 103450 cells but they are very different.

For those who prefer watching than reading I’ve made the video version of this test
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The cells were bought from Queen Battery, a Chinese supplier of genuine batteries, who specializes mainly on EV and eBike market. Queen Battery has a branch in Europe, but they also work with customers from Americas, Russia, etc… They also have their own brand cells line and can build custom packs.

As always, I've tested with ZKETECH EBC-A20 and a self-made battery holder. It's a PC-connected battery tester supporting 4-wire measuring and discharging at up to 20A.
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I've slightly upgraded my battery holder - i've replaced one of the terminal pads with a larger one and now i'm calling this "holder v2.5"
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I've followed all the prescriptions of the IEC61960-2003 standard concerning battery's capacity measurement. Before each discharging cycle each battery was charged at standard current mentioned in its datasheet to charge end voltage (4.2 or 4.35V) (cut-off at 0.1A, which is the lowest supported by EBC-A20). Before each discharging or charging i've held a 1-1.5hrs pause. The environment temperature was 20-25°C.
Discharge cut-off voltage was 2.75V.

Panasonic NCA103450

This cell is marked Panasonic 6402 C NCA103450 6323W2W8B.
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The main specs from its datasheet:
Rated capacity: 2200mAh at 0.44A discharge at 20ºC
Minimum capacity: 2270mAh at 0.454A / 25ºC
Typical capacity: 2350mAh
Nominal voltage: 3.6V
Max continuous discharge current: 4.54A (i've tested at 5A)
Discharge end voltage: 2.75V
Std charging current: 1.589A
Charge end voltage: 4.20V

Test results:
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Great results at all three discharge rates. Look at the curve at 5A - it's almost linear. Maybe it could handle higher current but i think you'd better not to discharge it at >5A.

Maxell ICP103450AHR

This cell's marking is engraved on the metal case and is nearly visible. It's marked ICP 103450 AHR K2667 0717 HM MADE IN JAPAN K2.
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The main specs from its datasheet:
Rated capacity: 2160mAh at 0.432A at 25ºC
Nominal voltage: 3.8V
Max continuous discharge current: 3.24A
Discharge end voltage: 2.75V
Max charging current: 2.16A
Charge end voltage: 4.35V

Pay attention to the nominal and charge end voltages - 3.8 and 4.35V respectively. I've tested it both at 4.35V and 4.20V but let's look at the standard 4.35V test results:
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Good results at 0.2C/0.43A and 2A, but at 3.24A it doesn't look impressive.

Let's compare this cell's results at 4.35 and 4.20V charge modes:
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At 2A rate the difference is noticeable - about 900mWh, but at 3.24A it's only 400mWh.

Verdict

Panasonic NCA103450 is a great cell, there is no doubt, but Maxell has disappointed me. Even though it's a 3.8V high voltage cell, it is rated at lower capacity and lower max discharge rate. In 4.2V mode its results are even lower which makes it no rival for Panasonic.
I've tested bare cells (without protection PCB), but Queen Battery sells protected versions too. They also offer custom-built packs.

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Very nice and Informative post.

But aren't these cells kinda... Weak?

I mean 500 Cycles and only 207Wh/kg. A sanyo 18650GA also has a 500 Cycle Life, but 224Wh/kg and a higher discharge rate.

The panasonic cells cost about 20€ on ebay which is the price of two 18650GAs, also on ebay.

I can't really see the appeal.
 
The 18650GAs are on the top of the line, so all the other cells look weak in comparison with them.
At the moment of making the order (about 7 months ago) the Maxell cell was $4.5 and the Panasonic $4.95 without shipping.
 
it is all about
compare, compare
there are several 18650 cells you can buy right now which has 3200-3400 Ah rated capacity at C/3 discharge.
your cells look like 2 18650 cells side by side.
 
I wouldn't expect the cells to last long if charged to 4.35v every time but it does look to be about 10% increase in capacity compared to 4.2v. I think it's just a way for them to cheat a little on the specification.

I have some cells that look like the Panasonics that were removed from equipment. After some age and abuse, the cells were bulging slightly. Just something to keep in mind if building a pack.
 
miro13car said:
your cells look like 2 18650 cells side by side.
no.. These cells are only 10 mm thick , 34 mm wide and 50 mm long. And only about 40 gms.
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thunderheart said:
.....the Maxell cell was $4.5 and the Panasonic $4.95 without shipping....
But much lower capacity and discharge power !
..so what is the advantage ??
 
Hillhater said:
miro13car said:
your cells look like 2 18650 cells side by side.
no.. These cells are only 10 mm thick , 34 mm wide and 50 mm long. And only about 40 gms.
I told about the size in the video but forgot to mention in the text, sorry.

Hillhater said:
thunderheart said:
.....the Maxell cell was $4.5 and the Panasonic $4.95 without shipping....
But much lower capacity and discharge power !
..so what is the advantage ??
There is no advantage. Though you can take the Maxell cell and charge it up to 4.20V which will prolong its life but i don't count this as an advantage.
 
thunderheart said:
There is no advantage. Though you can take the Maxell cell and charge it up to 4.20V which will prolong its life but i don't count this as an advantage.
There are many quality, branded 18650 cells specified with a 4.35 voltage... ( LG D1, E1, Samsung 30A, Sanyo ZTA, etc ).. So an extended voltage range is not an advantage either.
I would like to see a comparison test on some of those :wink:
 
Hillhater said:
There are many quality, branded 18650 cells specified with a 4.35 voltage... ( LG D1, E1, Samsung 30A, Sanyo ZTA, etc ).. So an extended voltage range is not an advantage either.
I would like to see a comparison test on some of those :wink:

I was testing some years ago cycle life of LG D1 at 4.35V 100%DoD and it shows very good results in this parameter.
 
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