Motorcycles and E-scooters in China

this is interesting..

i googled around and found a report by the asian development bank.

the sale of electric 2W in china grew from less than a million/year in 2001 to around 13 million/year by 2006. By 2006 they were selling as many electric 2W as gasoline 2Ws!!! Mostly the numbers are even starker. There is some kind of a motorcycle ban in at least 160 cities. Check out the attached table.

Picture1.png - notice how several large cities have imposed some kind of a ban on gasoline 2W's..
 
here you go: http://www.adb.org/publications/electric-bikes-peoples-republic-china-impact-environment-and-prospects-growth

(sligh old it is - 2009. but the report itself looks pretty reliable).
 
Is it a safety issue? Or one of economics? That's crazy that the whole country is on "crackdown" for a few weeks. Then supposedly, the cops turn their eyes on something else and things go back to the way they were.
 
2013-03-19

ANY business entity or individual that sells electric bikes that don't meet national standards will be punished under new regulations that begin June 10 and will expand as the year progresses.

Nonstandard electric bikes will be banned from all Shenzhen streets starting Sept. 10, local police and market supervision authorities announced yesterday. Businesses that produce nonstandard electric bikes will be shut down and could lose their operating license. Unlicensed motorcycle riders also will be detained.

Local police are giving electric bike riders a grace period until Aug. 31. E-bikes have been banned on major Shenzhen roads, and during certain times, since last April.

National standards require electric bikes to weigh no more than 40 kg (88 lbs) and have a maximum speed of 20 kilometers per hour.(12.4 mph) About 80 percent of the roughly 500,000 electric bikes used in the city exceed those standards. E-bikes are most prominent in urban villages and remote communities, and often used for businesses that require short trips, such as delivery restaurants and couriers. Police said some e-bikes used in Shenzhen can reach 50 kilometers per hour (31mph).

Electric bikes are frequently involved in traffic violations and accidents, which sometimes are deadly.

The city has reported 1,115 electric bike-related accidents, resulting in 46 deaths, so far this year.

Shenzhen has restricted electric bikes on 196 roads totaling 1,059 kilometers, and in 10 major areas.

Police will launch a 100-day action to crack down on electric bike violations until the end of June. E-bike riders in restricted areas or roads will be fined 1,000 yuan (US$159) and could have their bikes impounded. If they carry passengers or goods, fines can reach 2,000 yuan. E-bike riders involved in business could be detained and even face criminal charges.

Police said residents can call 110 or 8446-9054 to report violations in manufacturing, sales and use of nonstandard electric bikes. They also can report such violations online, via the traffic police microblog.

Source:Shenzhen Daily
http://szdaily.sznews.com/html/2013-03/19/content_2411213.htm
 
http://www.shenzhen-standard.com/2013/03/29/universities-in-shenzhen-to-ban-electric-bikes-starting-july/
Universities in Shenzhen to Ban Electric Bikes Starting July

Starting July 20 the official start of the summer holidays, Shenzhen University will be banning motorcycles and electric bicycles that will not meet the new national standards on its campus.

The new national standards are requiring electric bicycles to weigh no more than 40 kilos and a maximum speed of 20 kilometers per hour. But study showed that 500,000 electric bicycles or around 80 percent used in the city have exceeded these standards. University officials circulated a notice to its teachers and students that stated that electric bicycles will no longer be allowed to enter the university and electric bikes found on campus will be cleared starting July 20. In the coming months the university will assist manufacturers in purchasing the students electric bikes and offer an appropriate subsidies to those students to ship their bikes to their homes outside Shenzhen.

To help students commute around campus the university will increase the interval of the campus bus B728 and at the same time promote a bike rental system. There are more than 8,000 electric bikes on campus and the university receives at least 20 reports of bike accidents a month. Vehicles found campus will be restricted to 20 kilometers an hour and vehicles with university certificates are allowed to enter the campus grounds.

Recently the city launched a hundred day action the crack down on the violations made by motorcycles and electric bikes on major roads and intersections.
 
i didn't listen to the video...but this is definitely just a bigger problem than the e bikes. the problem would be 100 times worse with cars and i doubt the buses, trains, etc can handle that many people either. at least everyone seems fairly relaxed and alert while crossing the roads filled with scooters :lol:
 
He basically said in China, bicycles, ebikes, motorcycles are the transportation of the lower class,
and they usually look like POS because they are just cheap transportation tools.

He feels the true reason behind the ban is that the government wants the big cities to have a modern image, instead of "ebike chaos".
and that it has nothing to do with safety (what the government claims)

and he mentioned also that the "ebikes" are basically 50cc scooter replacement,
due to the ban of gas scooters, ebikes moved in.
technically they are escooters take advantage of a loophole in the ebike laws.

The majority of "ebikes" that most people ride in China, are above the weight and speed limit set by their federal standard.
the government have looked the other way for a long time,
but recently been confiscating ebikes/escooters in major cities.
(their reason for confiscation is that these 'ebikes' are illegal, above the weight and speed limit)

So what China really have is not an electric bicycle revolution, but an electric scooter revolution.
but the wonderful Communist govenment is deciding to take that away in the major cities.
 
adding some bling and aftermarket upgrades to the e-bikes in China...the new e-bike subculture gives some serious power to e-bikes in China...very cool!! Some of the new e-bikes can top 120 kph..and get there very fast...costing only about 1000$ for a souped- up bike!! This was in my city of Changzhou, Jiangsu, China...the new e-bikers have amazing machines that are fast, wicked to look at, and they are starting to ride together showing off their latest upgrades and blinged-out bikes!!
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[youtube]cOw15z7GWmM[/youtube]
 
大运电动车
grand canal ev
dayun

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTQzMjMyMTIw.html
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzY2MzAwNTk2.html

[youtube]FbCtUexDeKU[/youtube]

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爱马电动车
love horse ev
aima

[youtube]JChTjtpojew[/youtube]

[youtube]g-7QeWWLAT0[/youtube]

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松吉电动自行车
songi
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDkyMzQzMjk2.html

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yamaha metis
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=51683
http://www.yamaha-motor.com.cn/icats/products/detail_004.html
http://beijingdaze.com/general/2010/08/03/e-bike-in-beijing-yamaha-metis-max/
http://forum.jorsindo.com/thread-2417805-1-1.html

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e-moto g6
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=32619#p809871
 
forum for expat motorcyclists,
http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/showthread.php?3891-Zongshen-e-bike

After 2 years with a 64v e.bike I decided to get a replacement. One of my colleagues at work has a 72v e.bike which leaves the rest of us way behind so I knew there was only one way to go - get a new 72v. I was expecting the standard shape that all e-bikes in Chongqing seem to have, until I saw photos of some new models on offer. Best of all, the one I wanted was made by Zongshen, rather than the no-name brands that seem to proliferate here.

Was it worth the 5460 RMB? In my opinion, absolutely. Although heavier that the rest of the pack (it must be one of the 'big' e-bikes referred to in the Shanghai thread), and I'm heavier than the other riders, it still cleans up the other 72 as well as anything else on 2 wheels at work. Perhaps the best value aspect of this bike is the headlight/lamp. After nearly 3 years of e-bike riding I can now clearly see further than 5 meters ahead of me, and I have a 'bright' beam that is a real 'bright' beam. I can see it shining ahead of me when the street lights are out. Brilliant! It has disc brakes, front and back, so I feel safer at 50 kph and the fact that it can do a real 50 Kph is a pleasure. I'm not sure of the range but Chongqing is all hills so I'm not expecting to get the claimed 60km. However I live about 3.5 km from work so I only recharge every 4 days, although I could get at least another 2 days worth of commuting if I wanted to push it. It has a fairly wide seat but the two passengers I've carried both attest to it being more comfortable and spacious. I wouldn't mind a little more legroom up front, but that seems a problem with all e-bikes so I'm not complaining.

The best aspect of this bike is the ride. The sound, the feel and the riding position, in my e-bike world and experience there's nothing to compare. I've posted a pic below to give you an idea of what it looks like. There will be more to follow once we've had some warm dry weather so I can clean it.
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http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/showthread.php?2601-Shanghai-options-Ebike-review

My panda and i moved to shanghai 3 months ago, which for me meant giving up riding my motorbikes to work everyday. My bikes have legal Jiangsu plates but only 沪A plates are allowed in Shanghai and i cannot/will not fork out the 44000 RMB necessary for the privilege of riding in one of the worst places on earth to ride a bike. So what options are left to stay on 2 wheels? Go illegal or go electric. Since i was partly buying this for my girlfiend, we went electric. (so that she can drive me home from the bar when i can't even spell my own face anymore) Here's what we got:

P1000282.jpg


It cost 3300 RMB and is the "standard" spec for suped up ebikes, 800W, 48V, 20amps. It's faster than anything you'll buy at carrefour or the standard ebike shops but if you want to spend more money, all these custom shops can customise to your specs, up to 3000W motor, 84V or two banks of 48V for longer range etc...
Overall i like it enough for what it is. It's not very fast, top speed is GPS measured 47kph and acceleration isn't all that, but for running errands around the city it's very adequate. The range is ok, riding two-up we get about 35km if the tires are well inflated and i watch my throttle usage. Riding solo maybe 45km. The brakes are good (hydraulic disc brakes) and the tyres can carry enough speed through corners to scrape the kickstand.

Charging batteries is a bit of a pain. On these big modified ebikes the batteries are not removable so you better have somewhere to plug it in downstairs, which we do. Takes about 7 hours, meaning you need to rethink how and when you refuel. Coming from motorbikes, this is my biggest issue. Always having to plan ahead when and how long you are going to use it, to make sure you will have enough juice to get home. The battery gauge stays at 100% for very long, then dies away pretty quickly so just because you've made it somewhere and it says it's still got plenty, doesn't mean you'll make it back. If i'm going somewhere a bit far i usually measure my route on googlemaps first to see if i'll make it there and back. Pain in hole i know, but pushing isn't fun either.

So basically it's not my ideal form of transportation, but for shanghai i reckon it's one of the best options. Now that they have stopped selling fuel to scooters and that even sidecars with outside plates are being driven out, it's soon going be one of the last options besides buying the dreaded plate. Until they ban these as well that is...
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In ohio the cutoff is 50cc between a motorized bicycle and a motorcycle. Motorized bicycle- you need to be 14 years old with a specialty permit or have a drivers license

For a motorcycle you need to be 16 with a specialty permit.

Now I know most of you are thinking "duh", but there are some areas with motorcycle restrictions that don't apply to the motorized bikes even here. 125cc is just a big motorized bikes, and their restrictions are a little more severe!
 
$2k market report,

This 2013 research report is professional and in-depth research report on Chinas Electric Bicycle industry. This report begins by discussing Electric Bicycle definition, classification, industry chain and other related information. The report then discusses manufacturing technology and product specifications. Summary statistics are given on capacity, production, supply, demand and shortage, selling price, cost, gross margin and production value.

The report analyses 30 Chinese manufacturers giving details on production price, cost, gross margin, production value and Chinese market share. In the end, this report discusses the 200K Units/year Electric Bicycle project feasibility analysis and investment return analysis; and also gives related research conclusions and a development trend analysis of Chinas Electric Bicycle industry.
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http://www.sys-con.com/node/2869057
http://www.researchandmarkets.com/research/7mbmd8/2013_indepth

- Aima
- Aucma EV
- BODO
- BYVIN
- Battle
- Flying
- Fushida
- Gamma Bicycle
- Giant Bicycles
- Hongdu
- Incalcu EV
- Kaiqi EV
- Lima
- Luyuan
- LvJu
- Lvneng
- Opai EV
- Slane
- Supaq
- Sykee
- Taifeng Birdie Electric
- Tailg
- Talang EV
- Three Pistol
- Tianjin Mingjia
- Wason Electric Bike
- Xiaodao EV
- Xingyue Bike
- Xinri
- Yadea

more $ reports here,
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=22869&hilit=china


free report (2009) from US dept of energy lab,
http://theenergycollective.com/davidhone/46537/no-electric-cars-something-else-instead
http://www.ipd.anl.gov/anlpubs/2009/06/64621.pdf

4.2.1 Development of Electric Two-Wheelers in China

About 2,500 companies in China produce electric two-wheeled or three-wheeled
vehicles. The main companies are distributed throughout Jiangsu Province, Zhejiang Province,
and the city of Tianjin. They include
Jiangsu Yadea Technical Development Co., Ltd.;
Tianjin Fushida Electric Bicycle Co., Ltd.;
Jiangsu Xinri Electric Bicycle Co., Ltd.;
Zhejiang Luyuan Electric Vehicle Co., Ltd.

These companies produce more than 400,000 ETWs per year.
The number of E-bike companies in Shandong Province and the city of Shanghai also increased
rapidly during 2005 and 2006. The main Chinese company that has been developing high-end
ETWs is Wuxi in Jiangsu Province, while Tianjin is still the top production base for simple
ETWs.

It was predicted that the total amount of ETWs in China would be close to 20 million in
2008 and more than 30 million (including 5–6 million exports) in 2010. Total revenue could
reach 70 billion ¥ in 2010.
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绿源电动车
Luyuan ad
3:48 mentions ebike ban/confiscation
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjI3MzMxNDAw.html

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjI1MDUwNjIw.html
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTAyNzAzODM2.html

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNzQ5MzUwMTg4.html

http://en.luyuan.cn/

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search on taobao.com
祖玛摩托车 (zhu ma motorcycle)
72v ruckus/zoomer knockoffs? or conversions
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.193.jJiXxK&id=35353016246

本田弯刀
honda air blade
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.1.n6EBb0&id=18114222164

電單車 or 摩托车 "motorcycle"

电动摩托车 "electric motorcycle"

电动自行车 "electric bicycle"

电动车 ev

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genata electric MadAss clone
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=35650&p=777321#p777321

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大阳电动车
dayang

新艺电动车
sinee
http://sineebike.com

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzgzMjMxODU2.html
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTQ0Nzg0MTQ0.html
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDk4NzkxNDcy.html
 
This one looks very quick! :shock: 2 persons on it. Insane drivingstyle. He even put in BMW badges on the side.

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjMzMTk2MjQw.html
 
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