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Veego electric cargo bike???

Post by Hugh-Jassman » Mar 16 2018 1:48pm

this new cargo bike looked like a good deal untill I did a simulation of the motor. does any one know how to omake it perform better? other than mounting the motor to the side and using a large gear reduction.

I have not tryed simulating it with higher voltage, but that would really need a larger gear reduction, right?

looks like a child's toy.

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Re: Veego electric cargo bike???

Post by slacker » Mar 16 2018 2:07pm

Cargo bike ?

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Post by markz » Mar 16 2018 7:11pm

better motor, sim says 24" so maybe a 9C clone or a mac if the hub is not too large for the rim which it probably isnt as I will be using a mxus 3kw in a 16" moto rim which I believe is 21" bicycle.

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Post by Hugh-Jassman » Mar 17 2018 2:07pm

I had a thought that two of these motors would do the job,
not:

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they said the rims are probably 406mm and the tires are 4inch so 24 is about right. looks like it would not be worth the effort. where as my custom bike is ready for a motor, but I will just need to rig a gear reduction.

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Re: Veego electric cargo bike???

Post by teklektik » Mar 17 2018 2:28pm

You are not Pressing 'Simulate' after altering parameters and thus getting bogus results.

Here's the 2WD version with your proposed 400lb load... 26+mph:

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Upgrading to a modest 25A controller shows the plain vanilla 1WD at 16mph up a 5% grade with a 400lb load.

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With 25A controllers, the 2WD version does 24mph up a 5% grade.
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Re: Veego electric cargo bike???

Post by dogman dan » Mar 18 2018 11:26am

IMO, cargo bikes need big hub motors, or mid drive, unless the cargo is to be a 150 pound rider and a lunchbox.

Thats just another cargo bike fail, using a small geared motor. The small wheel helps to be sure, but its not going to do well loaded up above 300 pounds total weight. Period.

That bike would rock with a mid drive though. Or even just a decent DD hubmotor, that could put out 1000w. With a motor able to put out 2000w and stay cool, it would be a "cargo bike" that does not fail.

Maybe just me, because of where I live. But if a cargo bike cant climb the rocky mountains loaded, its just for a person and his lunch.

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Post by LockH » Aug 22 2018 9:58am

Just an update... they've added a folder to this design...

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Post by markz » Aug 25 2018 11:52pm

Ya know, proportions would look better on a bike like that if you really wanted a small wheel for the torque advantage. Then say a 20" on a 26" bike, and it being fat would cushion the bumps great. Best would be a mid drive or a 9C clone and radially lace the wheel, but if it were me, the Leaf 1500W motor or MXUS 3000W for ultra coolness!

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Re: Veego electric cargo bike???

Post by markz » Aug 25 2018 11:54pm

Hugh-Jassman wrote:
Mar 16 2018 1:48pm
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Whats the website and how much ?

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Re: Veego electric cargo bike???

Post by Hugh-Jassman » Aug 29 2018 1:00pm

Here is another fabulous fat-tire bike $1800 plus new battery and motor, unless you live on flat land and can pedal a lot. But maybe there is a way....if so please tell me about it. Do you think that it could use up to 72volts... would work with maximum of 20amps??? I don't know what kind of motor it is. I sent an email to find out what motor it is.

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https://www.electricbikecity.com/produc ... gKYKfD_BwE

Here is the Veego site. $1700
https://www.ridescoozy.com/products/vee ... ic-bicycle

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Re: Veego electric cargo bike???

Post by fechter » Aug 29 2018 2:42pm

Another way to improve the performance would be dual motors, both front and rear.
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