Help building a 14s7p 18650 battery

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Hello forum....

I plan to build a new battery for my e-scooter, with hopefully less voltage sag than with the original battery.

The max battery Amp needed is about 50amps (the motor controller is 2 x 25 amp)

I have posted af picture of how i will build the battery, pretty standard and straight forward.

1. Is it enough to use 1pcs/layer nickel-metal strips 0.15mm 7mm for the seriel and parallel connections? , according to googeling they should handle about 10amp peak ?? And the way I make the connection, there should not be more than about 7amp over the strips, is that correct understodd ??

2. I have been out of the "battery DIY" game for some years now. Last time I build a battery was with Samsung Q30. Any recommendations around battery cells ?? 7 pcs in parallel shall deliver 50 amps (peak), and since its a e-scooter I want most possible capacity, but without pushing the cells to much, and hopefully with less voltage sag.


UPDATE : These strips are the one I plan to use, are they suitable ? : 1 meter nickel welding strip - 7mm*0.20mm or this : 1 meter nickel welding strip - 7mm*0.30mm

Hope for some help. Thank you ......
 

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What are your size/space constraints for the battery? If you don't *have* to use 18650s - have you considered other cell formats or even 21700s?
 
What are your size/space constraints for the battery? If you don't *have* to use 18650s - have you considered other cell formats or even 21700s?
Unfortunately, no space for that. The e scooter deck, is same hight as a 18650 cell
 

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Spec for each cell variant in an EM3ev 52V (14S7P) Rectangle Battery Pack

Cell TypeCapacity (Ah)Capacity (Whrs)Max Cont. CurrentMax Burst CurrentWeight
Standard – 22P50.4V 14.7Ah740Whrs~29A~44A~5.5kg
High Energy – PF50.4V 20Ah1008Whrs~40A~55A~5.7kg
High Energy – 33G50.4V 21.7Ah1094Whrs~33A~43A~5.7kg
High Energy – LG MJ150.4V 23.8Ah1200Whrs~36A~47A~5.9kg
High Power – 25R50.4V 17.2Ah864Whrs~40A~55A~5.5kg
High Power – 30Q50.4V 20.7Ah1041Whrs~40A~55A~5.7kg
High Energy – Samsung 35E50.4V 23.8Ah1200Whrs~36A~47A~5.9kg
High Energy – Panasonic GA50.4V 23.8Ah1200Whrs~36A~47A~5.9kg

Cost U at least $500 for 100 brand name A-grade cells. May be further ahead to buy an EM3ev battery.
The peak maximum burst current is only for seconds (not even 1 minute) for prolonging battery cycle life.​
 

Spec for each cell variant in an EM3ev 52V (14S7P) Rectangle Battery Pack

Cell TypeCapacity (Ah)Capacity (Whrs)Max Cont. CurrentMax Burst CurrentWeight
Standard – 22P50.4V 14.7Ah740Whrs~29A~44A~5.5kg
High Energy – PF50.4V 20Ah1008Whrs~40A~55A~5.7kg
High Energy – 33G50.4V 21.7Ah1094Whrs~33A~43A~5.7kg
High Energy – LG MJ150.4V 23.8Ah1200Whrs~36A~47A~5.9kg
High Power – 25R50.4V 17.2Ah864Whrs~40A~55A~5.5kg
High Power – 30Q50.4V 20.7Ah1041Whrs~40A~55A~5.7kg
High Energy – Samsung 35E50.4V 23.8Ah1200Whrs~36A~47A~5.9kg
High Energy – Panasonic GA50.4V 23.8Ah1200Whrs~36A~47A~5.9kg

Cost U at least $500 for 100 brand name A-grade cells. May be further ahead to buy an EM3ev battery.
The peak maximum burst current is only for seconds (not even 1 minute) for prolonging battery cycle life.​
What a nice chart.
The 50a is only acceleration max, it won't be constant at all. It's clearly to se now, when I accelerate the voltage drops about 4v, and goes back up, when reaching top speed
 
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