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    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    FYI the regen is not as effective as one would hope. Its downsides of severely dragging the rear which actually would be very dangerous since you’d be forced to brake with the rear, is in many times undesirable. On and off would be nice but again the benefits are not actually as amazing as one...
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    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    I haven’t ridden the FastAce extensively but I did replace my RSTs with the DNM-USD8A and I really like it. The air shock portion holds pressure just fine, even after a fairly rough ride off road where I’m climbing steps with the bike. The suspension is nicely tunable, and frankly looks way...
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    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    8S is a spring (coil) 8A is an air spring, but only has a air adjustment for the bottom (compression)
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    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    Dude no offense but the etricks bikes are ugly as hell though. Sur-Ron gets compliments everywhere I go, except from egotistical bike riders on trails who you'd think built the damn trails themselves. Honestly, I'll admit a lot of me getting the Sur Ron was for the looks. It looks really...
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    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    No chain guard, probably why they set it so tight at the factory. Makes me a little iffy though, considering what a chain under load can do if it breaks with that much tension without a chain guard to mitigate the intensity. Kinda hoping they develop one soon, but at the same time, a 420 chain...
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    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    Dirkdiggler, if I'm not mistaken, the wires go to a proximity switch which is activated by either a ferrous metal or a magnet (most likely magnet in this case since the levers are made of aluminum). That's why when you're too close, it thinks you're already squeezing the brake and thus cuts off...
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    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    Yeah, no offense but that guy on the 450 was pretty much a newb. However, motomoto was riding on the beginner's track anyway so that makes sense. Plus, 450s typically make 55+ hp and 32+ ft-lbs of torque...something a Sur Ron couldn't match. However, it does weigh over double the Sur Ron so...
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    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    Yep, motomoto is the one who let me test ride the bikes. Great guy. Otherwise, bite the bullet and buy one. I guarantee you won't have any problems selling it if you absolutely have to. But I highly doubt you'll be doing that.
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    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    Yep, and as much as people worry about the stiction of air forks due to the pressurized chambers, air forks have the advantage of being progressive, meaning that as they are compressed, their spring rates change progressively larger. This is because the air inside which is actually the spring...
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    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    I don't know, I am impressed with the build quality but the Fastace rear shock seems to be just okay on mine. They say you can adjust the rebound by 18 clicks but I was only able to turn mine 7 clicks before it got so hard to turn I was afraid to break it. It's extremely hard to adjust the...
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    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    JRH, the RST is much more responsive, in my opinion. It handles well, from the ride I had on both. Not that much flex, maybe a little more than the Fastace, but nothing that’ll scare you or make you feel uncomfortable. Personally, if you’re doing trail riding that doesn’t involve crazy drops...
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    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    That’s good to hear. It’s really easy to access all the wiring. Just remove the front skid plate (4 stainless screws coming in from the sides) and the plastic covers, the two mounting screws on the bottom, and you’re there.
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    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    No. It’s not a brake light, just a tail light, which is kinda weird cuz they went through the trouble of installing proximity switches on our brake handles so it has all the hardware necessary... Short answer: Don’t worry about it, that’s normal. Mine is always on, as is my headlight which I...
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    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    That is definitely very weird. Try unplugging battery and doing it all again? Otherwise, sounds like you have a faulty controller. I don't hear any humming it's on.
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    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    Really sorry to hear this. I’ve had terrible customer service before (but not by Luna) and it sucks. Ruins your week for sure. According the other members I’ve been conversing with, Luna seemed to be pretty decent in terms of their service. I haven’t had any issues with them other brief...
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    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    I think he's referring to the circuit breaker underneath the battery door that a lot of people don't turn on and freak out about. To be honest it shouldn't have been left in the closed or "ON" state. That could potentially drain the battery although it shouldn't have with the key out. It does...
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    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    What are your thoughts on the Fastace? How do they compare if you don't mind sharing?
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    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    I know RSTs arent the greatest and maybe I should just take a punt at the Fastace. I'm also feeling like they're kind of blowing me off...but I don't know, don't want to assume anything. Fastaces are much heavier at around 19 lbs vs the 7 lbs for the RSTs but that's probably a good thing. I'm...
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    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    If I’m not mistaken, the forks in motomotos videos are with the RSTs. He considers them as the superior fork and he’s been riding for almost longer than I’ve been alive so I trust his opinion. I’ve gotten the chance to ride both his bikes and to be honest I was a little more impressed with the...
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    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    True, but as far as I know, the RSTs are a mtn bike fork as is the Fastace. LC updated their website again to depict the differences, but I think they referenced the wrong Fastace fork. Not their fault, their website is not very informative or well organized. Just a bunch of forks all over...
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    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    Am I understanding this correctly? So basically the Fastaces don’t have damping settings anymore (Rebound and Comp)? Or is it they just simply removed the air chambers? EDIT: They def have comp and rebound settings. Just no more air chambers.
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    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    On the supermoto picture, I think the bike had fox forks (unless they were just stickers but I doubt it). I’m sure it can be done, just gotta make sure you get the proper triple clamp. The forks are a piece of cake with the right clamps.
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    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    You have a good point and at the moment I’m more leaning towards keeping the RSTs and painting them black. Motomoto has both and I’ve ridden both, and to be honest the RSTs are more plush and feel more responsive, but then again I think his Fastaces had some issues that he is getting taken...
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    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    Same. I can confirm this. Apparently the RST is the better fork, worth $50 more...also the RST has Magnesium lowers, which explains why it's so light. Now I'm torn. Tbh the Fastace looks way cooler though, but I have heard good and bad. Anyways, LC updated their website so now you can...
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    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    Honestly, even with the RST forks that I am not a fan of at all, I absolutely love this thing. It is a blast and the torque delivery even at super low speeds is unreal, coming from riding 2 strokes most of my life. The power does not drop much over time, they did a good job and currently it's...
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