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    Typhoon kits - my way to convert Bafang BPMII to middrive

    It's 3 phase diode bridge rectifier.
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    Typhoon kits - my way to convert Bafang BPMII to middrive

    Four monthes have passed and I have some news about Typhoon kit. We found better motor for convertation. It's Xofo XF-V. This motor is similar to Bafang BPMI but has some important differences: - new shaft is more easy to manufacture. - motor is cheaper than Bafang. - back cover has smooth...
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    CYCLONE MOTOR OVERHEATING

    There is only one simple way to solve this problem completely http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=56666&p=845919
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    Typhoon kits - my way to convert Bafang BPMII to middrive

    I didn't know about this type of chain before :) Thanks.
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    Typhoon kits - my way to convert Bafang BPMII to middrive

    sure, can use a single speed chain, but using the tensioner is necessarily because the motor mount has fixed size.
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    Typhoon kits - my way to convert Bafang BPMII to middrive

    I didn't know it :( BMP1 has different back cover construction. So bmsbattery.com has BPMII in stock now. Now I have a plan to make "Typhoon mini" kit with XOFO mini hub in next a couple of monthes.
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    Typhoon kits - my way to convert Bafang BPMII to middrive

    Some pics of a kits and a motor with mount and a laboratory stand :) _ipVHUf8DpA
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    Samsung 25R/LG 18650HE2/ Sony VTC5 high power 18650 battery

    Sorry for the late response . I corrected my mistake and translated this page on "right" language :) Now you can to use all functions without inscriptions in an unknown language :D http://epowerbikes.ru/constructor-en.php
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    Typhoon kits - my way to convert Bafang BPMII to middrive

    One of tests shows top limit of torque/phase current for this motor. Controller: Kelly KBS72101X, phase current is max, 110A. This phase current was very high and motor crumpled gears I reduced phase current to 85% and now all is ok, battery current 65A, max power 4.5kW. But my battery was...
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    Typhoon kits - my way to convert Bafang BPMII to middrive

    In August 2013 I read crossbreak's topic about converting geared hub motor to middrive and decided to do it. Spent a lot of money for buy lathe, drill machine, band saw etc. And a year later I finished it. Its name is Typhoon :) Now I suggest short pics manual for repeat my way to get a power...
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    Converting a hubmotor to a middrivemotor

    There is phrase from datasheet it means when axle diameter is 15mm, on each mm of axle length torque is 10.25Nm, adapter wide is 24mm, total torque 246Nm. it's more difficult, I can use milling machine to make a groove into axle, but i can't make groove into adapter, I need use special machine...
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    Converting a hubmotor to a middrivemotor

    Sure. The axle consists of two parts connected by thread. If you need to remove adapter from axle you must to heat it 200C
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    Converting a hubmotor to a middrivemotor

    yes, it's price for this way :) sure, it's spacer for my config - 9mm, I will make 5mm and 3mm spacers for customizing. There is Henkel Loctite 638. It's very strong shaft-hub connection compound. http://krayden.com/tds/henk_loctite_638_tds.pdf
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    Converting a hubmotor to a middrivemotor

    Now I chose new way to convert BPM motor with more strength with native axle assembled with Loctite 638
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    Converting a hubmotor to a middrivemotor

    Why do you think 6 points of bolt caps are not enough to define surface?
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    Converting a hubmotor to a middrivemotor

    I don't agree. My adaper fit maximum near to motor (less 1mm from sprocket to mount ), because caps of bolts planted inside the hole.
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    Converting a hubmotor to a middrivemotor

    I ordered some GT controllers and said Leo to limit phase current 65A, he said "ok" but I realized, Leo can say "ok", but don't do it :D I think about Kelly, but it's double price. I look to KBS72051X sure :) I also plan try to make a new axis integral with the adapter.
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    Converting a hubmotor to a middrivemotor

    Today I had some tests of my BPMII 10T. Sprocket 19T. Controller GreenTime 100v 45A. Rear sprocket 14T, wheels 26". LiPo 12S, min.voltage 44.1v, max.current 42.1A, max.speed 50.4km/h (I guess sprocket 19T is small, for 55km/h need 20-21T) LiPo 16S, min.voltage 58.4v, max.current 41.7A...
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    Converting a hubmotor to a middrivemotor

    Thanks, I bought several Bafang BPMII 10T from bmsbattery, all motors have same gears. If your arguments about the reliability of the gears are true, I'll be very glad.
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    Converting a hubmotor to a middrivemotor

    I don't realize, the axle is twisted, but plastic gears are ok? Don't you think it strange?
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    Converting a hubmotor to a middrivemotor

    try to press break on full speed throttle on hanging wheel, I tried :)
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    Converting a hubmotor to a middrivemotor

    I used alloy 2024t35, tensile strength >395N/mm², they are dead :) I see this method, but can't find this machine.
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    Converting a hubmotor to a middrivemotor

    What's name of this alloy? Now I use a steel 370-490N/mm² (german analogs - 1.0038, 1.0116, DC03, Fe360B, Fe360D1, RSt37-2, RSt37-3, S235J0, S235J2G3, S235JR, S235JRG2, St37-2, St37-3, St37-3G) But in this one piece you can't laser cut middle hole. So you have to make this hole by...
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    Converting a hubmotor to a middrivemotor

    sorry, I suggested you troubled big sprocket wobbling and try to solve it by a sine wave controller. ok :) I clamp an assembled adapter by a nut to motor cover (axle bearing), it make exact 90 degrees from sprocket to axle, especially if the central hole is not quite done carefully.
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    Converting a hubmotor to a middrivemotor

    I tested 5pcs of my adapters and 2pcs of it works same (motor BPMII, controller Green Time 45A). IMHO it has no symmetry. I guess a sine wave controller can't help. BTW I killed 2pcs duralumin adapters and now sure duralumin is not good for it. The axle made a round hole into adapter. My...
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