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Amberwolf disappearance and newbie help requests :(
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Dui ni shuo de dui
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Ah that's cool, I haven't noticed this button before.
I'll try to help answer whatever I can.
Portugaline
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Will help out
FYI, there was a lull in our statistics between the time we noticed AW went missing and i posted the message asking yall to help out with some of the noob questions.
I'm very happy to see that it's possible we collectively managed to rise the the occasion and fill AW's shoes. I'm proud of us!
I'm very happy to see that it's possible we collectively managed to rise the the occasion and fill AW's shoes. I'm proud of us!
Mongo
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@neptronix; with regards to the [$300-1500] Amazon/Walmart/etc. bike-in-a-box buyers who post a "Help!!!!!!!" plea - you know the oh-so-informative posts along the lines of, "My bike don't work - what could be wrong with it? Help!!!". How about a boilerplate response that nudges them over to like-minded/like-ability/like-brand forums over on the EBR?
Add to it a boilerplate "please provide the following info" paragraph, and unless they do, well ... Bye.
Add to it a boilerplate "please provide the following info" paragraph, and unless they do, well ... Bye.
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I'm more apt to agree with that route than catering to prebuilt bikes by making them their own section.
EBR is the home of a big prebuilt bikefluencer and specializes in prebuilts.
It makes more sense to double down on what we're strong at ( DIY ) than try to generalize.
I think we should produce at least some troubleshooting guides to point to when the questions come. We don't know anything about the prebuilt specific bike, but we know a lot of things that are generally useful to ebikes.
I'd like this site to be helpful to the maximum amount of people.. but consumers of prebuilts could easily come here and dwarf the DIYers as a percentage of a forum if we laid out a welcome mat.
If we throw prebuilt ebike consumers a bone, it will be an extremely small one. My best thought is knowledgebase articles RN.
EBR is the home of a big prebuilt bikefluencer and specializes in prebuilts.
It makes more sense to double down on what we're strong at ( DIY ) than try to generalize.
I think we should produce at least some troubleshooting guides to point to when the questions come. We don't know anything about the prebuilt specific bike, but we know a lot of things that are generally useful to ebikes.
I'd like this site to be helpful to the maximum amount of people.. but consumers of prebuilts could easily come here and dwarf the DIYers as a percentage of a forum if we laid out a welcome mat.
If we throw prebuilt ebike consumers a bone, it will be an extremely small one. My best thought is knowledgebase articles RN.
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harrisonpatm
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I have very little experience with ebikes, I've spent about a cumulative total of 10 minutes actually riding them in my life.
What I do know is batteries, the practice of using a motor controller, and how circuits work, both practical experience and the principles of it in general. I like the concept of personal electric drive systems, regardless of their form, and learning about them. As such, I have gotten dozens of requests from friends, neighbors, and two local bike repair places asking for help diagnosing issues with prebuilt, purchased ebikes, and I've been like 80% successful in diagnosing issues and pointing people towards repairs or replacement parts. That's me saying, I agree with @neptronix point, knowing how things are supposed to work in general is sometimes enough to get you started on DIY repairing your ebike, regardless of who made it.
General ebike troubleshooting is likely the level of support that we can offer for prebuilts, but I also feel that prebuilt rebuilds or prebuilt conversions fit within DIY, and could be a category. Not everyone sees the light on DIY right away and go the factory route as a starting point to ebiking. Makes sense, since DIY takes more effort for a non technical rider, and the rider may end up not liking ebiking anyway, The tuition is higher going that route, and while many will stick to their factory rides, a good portion of those riders begin to see the light and start their DIY journey from that starting point. Not to mention that there are fewer and fewer bikes out there that are suitable for DIY conversions.
On the ES ebike sub forums we may embrace DIY e-bikes, but overall ES supports all types of EVs and E technology, Some folks are more focused on the clean energy aspects than others. Fun is my primary goal, and safety a primary focus, while the clean energy aspect is just a bonus. If folks want to have fun with their EVs and want to try out DIY, I’m willing to support them to the extent that I can, even if their starting off point is a factory bike. I already have a lot of discussions with prebuilt owners while out riding, jthat are interested in DIY when they see me on mine anyway.
Yes i think offering general support is fine.
I would like to use a knowledgebase system that's easy to browse, contribute to, and organize; and has an appealing interface as well could reduce the tuition cost to ~10% of what it is currently.
We can at least make DIY easy to learn. For me, it took 9 months to understand WTF i was doing when i first started here.
Yes, i think for that reason we should lower the learning curve for DIY and at the same time make it very apparent we're a DIY site ( in design and messaging ).
We've always had threads here and there about modifying prebuilt bikes, usually not chinese crap with zero documentation and support though. No way can any forum know the specifics about 10000's of varying makes and models from companies that mostly never stayed in business.
For this reason we should write and promote the best general purpose diagnosis manuals in existence. It's the only hope of actually supporting these rando bikes well. The onus to follow through is on the reader.
