cbc news stolen bike film @ Vancouver film fest

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I caught the tail end of a report a bout vancouver made film showing at the festival I am yet fo find the news clip on cbc but I found this bit in the local paper;

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id=75cd0688-5154-4cb0-9e97-e0e648b73c1d

Having been victim of this really gutless crime I feel the amount of frustration that was probably neede to make a really descent film So good luck to Aren Hansen

I am gonn look i nto the best that money can buy locks cause you know once they realize the value of some of these machines they are gonna try even harder to get at the valuable parts

efreak
 
Ten or eleven years ago we were living in a high end ocean front condo in a gated community (same community we live in now) and I had parked my Cannondale hybrid by the elevator while I went upstairs to get lunch. There was a moving truck at the entrance to the underground garage but I didn't think about it.

After lunch, about one minute after the moving truck pulled out I discovered my bike missing. The gate wouldn't stop the truck who was probably gone by the time I got to the phone, the local SO wouldn't respond against the truck and the Florida Highway Patrol told me they didn't chase after bicycles.

The bike was less than a year old, I paid more than a thousand dollars for it and all I got was the SO to come out and take a report. I knew where the truck was going, it had to be on the I4 heading to Orlando and no one gave a flip.

Fortunately the insurance company replaced it. Six months later someone stole the seat and post. I didn't bother reporting it.

What this means is I no longer park where I can't either see it or make sure it's locked securly. Our local Wal-Mart has 110 volt outlets outside where I could plug in and would need to as it is just out of round trip range but I'm afraid to leave everything unguarded even with a bike lock or two. I can only imagine the response from the SO.

One of the TV news magazines did a segment on this in NYC awhile back and those thieves were good, blatant and didn't care if they got caught. Penalties were minimal. One thief discovered he could lift the sign posts up and didn't even have to cut the chain or cable securing the bike. All he had to do was lift the post up, remove the bike and put the post back!

Oh well, I'm very careful now.

Mike
 
Gated community?

What's that all about?
 
In a nutshell a gated community, at least ours, has controlled access gates limiting entry to residents, their guests and approved vendors. We have "guards" at each gate. Ours are not armed but some gated communities use armed personnel. All roads within the community can only be accessed by the "secure" entrance and egress roads.

There is a concept of safety provided by the limited access that may not be quite as true as people like to think but it does keep non residents from simply driving around with the community. I imagine most of the crime within the community is from approved vendors but fortunately our crime rate is VERY LOW.

Some gated communities don't use any personnel at the gates and merely control them with electronic passes or keypads. These, naturally, are even less secure. Guests normally use a keypad to notify the homeowner who, through their telephone, can open the gate.

In our particular are of N Florida there are probably more than 15 gated communities within a 40 mile radius. Most use personnel at the gate. Within my immediate community there are five with personnel, at least four with electronic keepers.

Mike
 
I'm sorry Mike, but I find the whole concept of a gated community reprehensible.

Instead of fixing society, you simple bar the undesireables using physical force. (Armed guards???? Are you kidding me?). Them and us.

Israel is using the same concept with their wall around parts of West bank/Gaza.

It's Aparteid all over. How is a gated community different?


Half the time here we don't even lock the doors at night - even in the middle of the suburbs of the big city.
Went away for a week holiday recently and realised when we got back we'd left the back door wide open. Plumber who was doing some work thought we were nuts. Nothing got stolen, no one walk in and clean us out.
Did get my wallet stolen once years ago....when I left the back door open overnight. But no big deal. I choose not to worry about it.

We live in very different worlds.
 
Mark, unfortunately you are absolutely correct, we live in different worlds. Our local TV channels feature Orlando, FL, Daytona, FL, Disney World area and environs for all of central and part of N Florida.

EVERY day there is a new murder, or more, a new home invasion, shooting, stabbing, armed robbery, etc. When I lived in Orlando, a long time ago, there was a delightful section of town on the west side called Pine Hills. This was an area of middle class homes full of working people who were proud of their homes, their children and their community. Now it's called Crime Hills and is the scene of murder, gang violence , drugs and worse.

Fortunately the town I live in hasn't suffered a lot of that but we, for a county wide population of 80,000, have enough. We have murders every year, a bank robbery or three, drug store robbery's and road rage just for a start.

Daytona, 30 miles away, has problems galore that stem from prostitution, drugs, murder and more. But, it's still a nice place to visit, we go there for dinner and shopping and enjoy ourselves but we're careful where we go, where we park and we look around and are aware of our environment. I no longer have my boat serviced there as "rumors" of problems at the marine yards are discouraging.

The gates are mostly illusions and most of us know that. I lock my doors, have a very good security system, a exterior camera system that monitors my front door, motor court and dock. Except for the bicycle theft I cannot remember any serious problems for me but a break in down the street a couple of years ago netted the thieves more than 25K in property and cash. About 400 yards south of me a world famous bird artist and his family live. A bronze dolphin that weighed a couple of hundred pounds and was bolted down onto a concrete pad was stolen. This summer.

My daughter, who lives in town and not in a gated community, had her car broken into and her purse containing her money and ID were stolen, during the daytime and she lives in a nice neighborhood. She of course still doesn't clean out her garage enough to get her car into so it will probably happen again.

I could go on but by now you get the picture. I would love to live in a community where folks didn't lock their doors or cars but I've lived all my adult life in Georgia and Florida and haven't found such a place yet although I'm confident there are pockets of safety. That will only last as long as the drugs stay out and I don't think there is any place left that they haven't struck.

So, if we ever leave here we already have a place halfway picked out in yet another gated community, on another island, in South Carolina.

Mike
 
I'm only guessing of course, but I believe most of Australia is where the US was about 40 years ago regarding securing your home from theft.
Back then, no one in my neighborhood locked their doors at night or when they went on holiday. What a pity how we've changed
 
Yes, different worlds, but not that different - we have crime here too (but not many guns). Drugs too, but more of the having-a-great-time-at-a -big-party type, rather than addiction-leading-to-crime type. However when my brother worked close to the city his car window was smashed to steal a bag, so was a friend's...it happens.

The problem is distribution of wealth, and lack of a proper welfare state. Gated communities just make it worse IMO.

But solving the US's domestic problems are beyond me...
 
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