Crystalyte X5 Real World Results

[ryan]

If you have experience with any of the Crystalyte X5 motors (5303, 5304, 5305, etc.), I'd love to hear about your real world results.

Please share the following:

1. Bike
2. X5 Model (530_?)
3. Battery
4. Controller (and any special settings or mods)
5. Unique Characteristics that affect your results (if you only weigh 75lbs/35kg, let us know)
6. Top Speed (level ground, no wind)
7. Longest Distance travelled on a single charge (with brief description of terrain)
8. Top Tip to other x5 owners (or future owners)

 

[Zoot Katz]

If you have experience with any of the Crystalyte X5 motors (5303, 5304, 5305, etc.), I'd love to hear about your real world results.

Please share the following:
. . .

• Bike Rigid Cro-Mo mixte MTB with an Xtracycle.
• X5 Model X5304.
• Battery 48 V, 20 Ah of 5C tested LiFePo4.
• Controller sample 48 Amp, 72 Volt, digital Crystalyte.
• Unique Characteristics Everybody sings German opera when they ride don't they?
• Top Speed 43 kmh with my bumm on the saddle or 47 kmh with my chin on the saddle pedalling from the SnapDeck.
• Longest Distance 110.6 km at 7.6 Wh/km on 18 Ah of NiMH. Vancouver is a hilly city. I like pedalling in a gear that contributes something.
• Top Tip Get a deep, high discharge rate battery. Buy Amp hours over Volts (or either a Nine Continents motor instead) if you just want to ride it normal. Give it all the volts you can afford. Avoid puddles.

 

[dogman dan]

Zoot wins the unique award as usual.

My 5304 in 24" wheel is underpowered now. Don't have money for a big battery just yet.

36v 22 amp controller from High Tech Bikes. 48v 8 ah 5c nicads. The amp hours is too small, so I keep it on the low amp controller. Zoot is right, get a large pack for an x5. My 5304 can devour watthours if you let it.

Top speed is around 20 mph, mabye a few more if I roll long enough on flat ground. Should be faster, but voltage sag.

Range at that speed, I stop at about 4-5 miles. Any further, I can really feel the voltage sag hammering the battery. By then the pack is hot. So about 15 minuites of blasting the throttle.

Unique thing. Usually I ride this bike on fairly steep singletrack trails in the mountains. I ride about 4 mph on the uphill, using only as much throttle as needed to help me up the hill while pedaling energeticly. On the steepest bits, maybe 15-20 % grade it will take full throttle and all I can pedal, at 8% grade half throttle and hard pedaling. I can get an 8 mile round trip out of the tiny 8 ah pack riding this way, trying to keep the discharge slow. It'll climb 10% no pedaling, but I won't get far not pedaling.

Like Zoot, I have other unique attributes, I could go on and on. But my weight is 180 lbs.

 

[morph999]

1.Bike--- Gt Outpost Trail 1999
2.X5 Model (530_?) ---- 5303
3.Battery --- 60v 9ah of SLA -- ordering lifepo4 soon
4.Controller --- 24v-72v 35a controller
5.Unique Characteristics that affect your results (if you only weigh 75lbs/35kg, let us know)---I weigh about 250lbs
6.Top Speed --- I got it up to 37mph easily...could have went 40mph or over but got scared (level ground, little wind)
7.Longest Distance travelled on a single charge --- about 10 miles -- I use SLA so not good range
8.Top Tip to other x5 owners (or future owners)--- use two torque arms??

 

[morph999]

Biggest difference I noticed going from my Forsen hub motor to the 5303 is the torque. Even on the 5303, the torque is comparable to a gas moped. On my forsen hub, I usually pedal to get it going but that's not even necessary on my 5303. The 5303 can accelerate the bike far faster than pedaling can. The acceleration is just outstanding on the 5303. It's kind of addictive especially if you have a big battery with lots of volts.

 

[patrickza]

Please share the following:

1. Bike Kona Kahuna
2. X5 Model (530_?) 5305
3. Battery Headway 72v10ah
4. Controller Crystalyte 72v48A
5. Unique Characteristics that affect your results I don't go very fast often. I pedal, but only as much as I do going on a slight downhill on my regular bike
6. Top Speed (level ground, no wind) 40mph.
7. Longest Distance travelled on a single charge (with brief description of terrain) 68km did a tour around Johannesburg. Quite a hilly city, but I kept the speed low, ie 20mph and under. I'm sometimes surprised at how effecient my bike is, thought the simulator that was done by one of the members seems to confirm my figures.
8. Top Tip to other x5 owners (or future owners) Go for the 5305 or 5306. The torque is addictive, and with 76.8v even a 5305 will do 40mph. If I had to do it over I'd get a 5306. I don't need 40mph, 30mph is enough on a bicycle.

 

[ryan]

Going through my old posts and saw this one...

1. Bike: Marin Downhill
2. X5 Model: 5305
3. Battery: 72v20Ah (Dual 36v20Ah LiFePO4 Headways)
4. Controller: 72v40A Crystalyte 4110 controller
5. Unique Characteristics: Rear hub motor, front pannier battery packs
6. Top Speed 35-40mph on the flats, 45.6mph with gravity assist (so far)
7. Longest Distance: 50 miles (including 3000-3500ft of climbing and descending) ... I'm confident I could get over 60 miles on level ground. Longer if hypermiling. I've also done 40 miles towing my son in a trailer up, including a brutal 6 mile / 2500ft climb up a mountain
8. Top Tip: Essential add ons: Torque arms and a Cycle Analyst

 

[BLUESTREAK]

eariler before my hall's failed my (x5305 48 volt 20ah cammy-cc 4840 controller on 26in front wheel on 450lb trike it would do 25mph on flat ground) my new (x5306 48 volt 20ah cammy-cc 72volt 50amp controller with lvc set at 41volts on same trike does 21mph on flat ground,now add 1 12volt 22ah lead acid battery and it runs 26.5 mph) later on when I get my TS 40ah set up I may use 72 volts, don't know yet.

 

[Kurt]

1. Bike. Steel frame Mt bike
[b] 2. X5 Model.5304
3. Battery[/b]. 20ah headway 36v
4. Controller (and any special settings or mods). 36-72v 48a digital.
5. Unique Characteristics that affect your results (if you only weigh 75lbs/35kg, let us know). A lot of the time I carry my daughter on the back in a child seat and some times I tow a bob trailer a swell at the same time.
6. Top Speed (level ground, no wind). 40kmh
7. Longest Distance traveled on a single charge (with brief description of terrain). 70km on a mix of very steep hills and flat sections towing trailer with about 10kg of gear in it and child on board.
8. Top Tip to other x5 owners (or future owners). You need a solid frame to handle a x5. Not so much because of the power of the motor but the motors weight bolted to your frame.

kurt

 

[diver]

trike is home made.. weighs about 500 with me.... running a 5304 with a lyen 18 fet controller at 72 volts on a 24 inch wheel.... batterys are 75 amp lead. have gone 90 miles with amps set at 20.. top speed 38 to 40 .. all flat land riding

 

[Ariane]

Hi,

1. Own custom made ebike (click on my ride link above)
2. X5304
3. Lithium Manganese (Konion's) 18650V 24 S 14 P I got (2) pack like this for this ebike can be change in about 5 minutes.
4. Lyen 18 Fets controller 72 Volt 65 amps modification regen at 90 volt, network resistor mod for 100.8 volt operation
5. Heavy bikes CR80 fork is heavier than a regular montain bike fork but stiffer, this ebike is built to last
6. Top Speed 80 Kph on 24" wheel
7. Longest Distance is 60 Km with an average speed of 32 Kph but it was done with a 14S defective string. I need to do more tests with an
Healthy pack and the regen active, this single ride (one charge) was made on various terrains like bicycle path, motocross path and paved road.
8. An X5 is beast if your respect his limit (heat) and you run it a higher voltage you will have a lot of fun with it.

Good day!
Black Arrow