Currie Technologies replacement batteries

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I just got my first ebike and I'm really excited. The bike is an old Trek (i've always like Treks) with an xtracycle attached. After buying it in Palo Alto and bringing it back to SF on the train I bought a new front tire and tube. Plus a small handle bar for the seat post so my son could hang on while riding. The bike had been stored for many years but for $450 buck I couldn't say no. It has a Currie Technologies 24v motor and a clunky battery pack that fits in the frame. The batteries are old and are only holding about 50% of a charge. There are sealed lead acid: wp12-12e 12v12ah batteries. My question is...is there an out of box battery pack that will be more powerful and lighter and that is easy to install? Or should i just buy 2 new replacement batteries for around $60 bucks.

Here is a link for some cheap replacements:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0079L9WXY/ref=redir_mdp_mobile

Thanks,
peaceguru.
 
These would be a lot cheaper if you want to stay with lead.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Pack-12-Volt-12-Ah-Bladez-XTR-Comp-450-Scooter-Battery-2-year-warranty-/170985976024
However, you could go with lithium if you want lighter and better performance.
 
Well, $34 each sounds pretty good, I haven't been to my local electronics supply store to buy any lately, but 12v12a ain't cheap. Compare at Batteries Plus: http://www.batteriesplus.com/product/30296-PS--12120F2-Powersonic-Battery-12V-12Ah-with-F2-Terminal/100085-1/102626-SLA-Sealed-Lead-Acid-Batteries/102638-Power-Sonic/12V.aspx
 
What are your expectations? If you will be riding fairly short distances, replacing the sla's is defintiely an option. Much lighter, and at least double the range, would be a 10 ah lithium battery of some kind. Typically the lithium lasts 2-3 times longer depending on the exact type, so lithium can be the cheapest cost per mile.
 
I live in San Francisco so I will never be going further then 7 miles, however I just want to know what my other battery options are. Thanks for all your help.
-Peaceguru
 
Given the steep hills in SF, heavy lead would look less good to me. Lighten up with some lithium if you can afford it.
 
IIRC, the controller is 35A, so 2 or more 5000mah 20C 6s RC lipo packs paralleled in the old case would work nicely. About 3 lbs total for 2 of them.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__16207__Turnigy_5000mAh_6S_20C_Lipo_Pack_USA_Warehouse_.html
 
wesnewell? Would your suggestion work with a 24 volt motor? Can I buy a rig like that pre-built? Thanks.
 
Motors don't care what voltage they get. The voltage needs to match the controller. If you have a 24V system then the controller is 24V. It doesn't know where the voltage is coming from. All it cares about is getting enough voltage to work. The LVC of the controller is probably 20-21V, so yes they will work since they charge to 25.2V. I have no idea what your battery case looks like, but if it'll hold 2 12ah sla batteries, it will probably hold 4 6s lipo packs. Currie also sells lithium packs. They are probably a lot more expensive. Check with a Currie dealer.
http://www.curriestore.com/currie-store/currie-batteries/
 
6s, six cells in series, lipo would work for 24v. It would be a good solution, provided you understand the potential danger of mishandling lico chemisty cells.

Read up, then decide. Lifepo4 would be a bit safer and "plug and play". Hard to beat the convenience of a larger ping pack, but they do get costly and if you don't need that range RC lipo from hobby king could be a very good approach.
 
Thinking about going with these guys:

http://www.nycewheels.com/bionx-parts-oem.html


Getting a BionX | Battery, 24V Lithium.

However I may just wait and see what comes out in 6months.

Thanks for all your help Endless-sphere.com
 
peaceguru said:
Thinking about going with these guys:

http://www.nycewheels.com/bionx-parts-oem.html


Getting a BionX | Battery, 24V Lithium.

However I may just wait and see what comes out in 6months.

Thanks for all your help Endless-sphere.com
Bionx is expensive and proprietary. Both bad! They use good cells but you really pay for the prive;idge!
otherDoc
 
For over a decade, we've been rebuilding various Currie VRLA (valve regulated lead acid "gel cell" aka SLA or AGM) Battery packs for our stable of Currie ebikes. The Currie 12ah and 10ah batteries can be replaced with lighter, lower AH batteries, of course you get less range. We now have 3 of the Currie RMB packs and have replaced the 10ah (12v) VRLA with "9ah" and 8ah VRLA batteries that are 25% lighter, over 35% less cost per battery (as low as $35 for a new pair) and of course give about 2/3 to 3/4 of the original range of the 10ah batteries. For the 12Ah frame mount packs we have substituted 10ah or less. In each case, we have added non-flammable, corrosion resistant insulated rubber padding.

We also test periodically with the Elk battery life tester (BLT) There are others such as West Mountain Radio on the market which have external software controlled charging. We have used the Elk BLT for almost 8 years and put a sticker on every VRLA/AGM battery to track the charging state over time. The main thing for us has been to match the batteries so that they have very similar mhos readings (using an Elk VRLA/Gel/AGM tester). For us, CSB and PowerSonic have been very reliable; the locally available Werker brand not so much. We are now avoiding the rebranded batteries from some sellers as we have no idea who the actual manufacturer and model number is in order to track reliability. A battery tester is an essential tool for rebuilding battery packs, but hard to justify for individuals with only one e-bike!

The only things you absolutely need are some long phillips #2 screwdrivers for the "newer" RMB plastic packs, a volt-ohmeter, a soldering iron, desoldering pump or wick, and solder and a 12v desulphating charger. All the VRLA packs we have worked with have soldered tabs, and it is a really good idea to solder them back in. We have run them without solder and using some of the expensive contact enhancing compounds such as deoxit, but whenever we get any degradation in performance from the pack we see some discoloration at one or more terminals and clean and solder the F2 tabs in place. By the way always get F2 tabs on the batteries to match the F2 connectors in the pack though F1 tabs are more readily available and the adapters are cheap. Just another point of failure and additional length of conductor to shield. We have had good results with the Schauer CM6 charger and BatteryMINDer 1A charger to rejuvenate and rebalance a pack where one of the two batteries may have failed and the other is good enough to match with a new battery.

Now we have worked on a NiMh pack for a Giant which we took an old pack case and transformed it into a connector and disconnect switch for a 24V rack mount Currie VRLA pack. Sign, would have loved to rebuild the NiMH or the Currie Li pack, but we don't have ready access to direct replacement batteries as with the VRLA/SLA/AGM batteries.

Best, Mark
 
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