cal3thousand
10 MW
I have a Giant Stiletto "Chopper" style bike that I picked up for cheap and want to build up and sell. I'd like to make it a fairly quick turnaround and not get too complicated ( I have a tendency to do that and this bike is not for me, I need to keep that in mind). If I were to keep it, mid drives would be viable, but not this build. I rather build a rear motor, but it might be tons easier for a front on this particular frame. Goal would be a nice easy cruiser that can spike up to 30 mph, but will seem mostly 20-25mph duty.
Things to consider about this frame:
Huge area for batteries and/or motor
48 hole hubs/rims front and back
20"x3" front with 14mm solid axle (100mm i think); front fork has disc mount holes that I'd like to use
24"x3" rear with 7 speed derailleur and a 20-20 tooth jack shaft in the middle of the bike. The 24"x3" tire diameter is about the same as a 26"x2"
The wheels/hubs that came with the bike should be sold as they look really nice with all those spokess and won't play nice with hubmotors and/or disc brakes
Things to consider about my current junkpile:
I have a front 5404 (aka Phoenix Brute) sitting waiting for a project; it was basically free so it's perfect for this build.
I have a Q11 (wannabe 9c) rear motor sitting and waiting
I have Alex DX32 24" rims already in possesion for the Q11 build that was going on another bike.
I have a hydraulic front brake set that I would like to use, but that would require find a 100mm hub with disc brakes AND 14mm solid axle (unicorn).
I have a MAC 8T that is partway through a crossbreak style dual jackshaft conversion that could be fitted to the jackshaft on this motor possibly.
Ideas:
1) Put the 5404 up front with a disc brake adapter piece screwed into the shell (not sure this would work), I could put it in either a 20" or 24" wheel. It may be possible to adjust the forks to keep the geometry the same on 24" wheels. Then, I would build a new 24" rear wheel to match. (seems to be the easiest considering the 100mm 14mm solid axle fork. BUT, this would also require higher voltage to hit decent speed. Maybe 16s would get it to 30mph.
2) Convert the 5404 to a rear hub and put it in a 24" rim and then find a way to fashion the front wheel/brake situation. Could be possible to change out the forks. This would be quite an expensive this to do. The conversion would cost a few hundred bucks and would only be suitable for making a beast (i.e. my own bike/not for sale)
3) Mid-drive a la crossbreak. This motor was being saved for a project to come about. But this project is not for me and I just bought an Xtracycle Edgerunner frame that I am (most likely) planning to use the MAC 8T for. If I used it for this build, I would have to go GNG or Bafang crank driven on the Edgerunner.
After typing this all out, I'm starting to feel that option #1 would be the best and cheapest option, allowing me to pair up the things I got a good deal on to get them out.
Thoughts?
Things to consider about this frame:
Huge area for batteries and/or motor
48 hole hubs/rims front and back
20"x3" front with 14mm solid axle (100mm i think); front fork has disc mount holes that I'd like to use
24"x3" rear with 7 speed derailleur and a 20-20 tooth jack shaft in the middle of the bike. The 24"x3" tire diameter is about the same as a 26"x2"
The wheels/hubs that came with the bike should be sold as they look really nice with all those spokess and won't play nice with hubmotors and/or disc brakes
Things to consider about my current junkpile:
I have a front 5404 (aka Phoenix Brute) sitting waiting for a project; it was basically free so it's perfect for this build.
I have a Q11 (wannabe 9c) rear motor sitting and waiting
I have Alex DX32 24" rims already in possesion for the Q11 build that was going on another bike.
I have a hydraulic front brake set that I would like to use, but that would require find a 100mm hub with disc brakes AND 14mm solid axle (unicorn).
I have a MAC 8T that is partway through a crossbreak style dual jackshaft conversion that could be fitted to the jackshaft on this motor possibly.
Ideas:
1) Put the 5404 up front with a disc brake adapter piece screwed into the shell (not sure this would work), I could put it in either a 20" or 24" wheel. It may be possible to adjust the forks to keep the geometry the same on 24" wheels. Then, I would build a new 24" rear wheel to match. (seems to be the easiest considering the 100mm 14mm solid axle fork. BUT, this would also require higher voltage to hit decent speed. Maybe 16s would get it to 30mph.
2) Convert the 5404 to a rear hub and put it in a 24" rim and then find a way to fashion the front wheel/brake situation. Could be possible to change out the forks. This would be quite an expensive this to do. The conversion would cost a few hundred bucks and would only be suitable for making a beast (i.e. my own bike/not for sale)
3) Mid-drive a la crossbreak. This motor was being saved for a project to come about. But this project is not for me and I just bought an Xtracycle Edgerunner frame that I am (most likely) planning to use the MAC 8T for. If I used it for this build, I would have to go GNG or Bafang crank driven on the Edgerunner.
After typing this all out, I'm starting to feel that option #1 would be the best and cheapest option, allowing me to pair up the things I got a good deal on to get them out.
Thoughts?
