GRIM PAS BB torque sensors

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Does anyone have any actual experience with any of the Grin bottom bracket torque sensor PAS units? I'm more than a little nervous about the install... drilling through the frame / bottom bracket specifically. I'd really appreciate any/all feedback/comments, particularly if anyone has actually ridden any of these AND the Bafang units to contrast!

http://www.ebikes.ca/shop/ebike-parts/torque-sensors.html
 
The S12S controller from BMSBattery is very nice for PAS because it uses current control. It would be especially good for a crank drive compared with most controllers that use speed control. There's some very nice controllers coming on the market now, in particular from Kunteng. Any controller that has an LCD and at least 5 levels also gives very nice pedal assist. The advantage of a torque sensor isn't really enough to justify the expense, complexity and limitations.
 
It's Grin .. not Grim

And i have a BBS-01 as well as a Thun equipped bike with CA

http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=61812

I love it.. feels much more natural than the standard PAS and if you can figure out all the CA settings it's very adjustable to your personal taste.
 
Thanks for the feedback- and correction ;). Ypedal- did you find the install difficult, at least from a novice's perspective? I find it to look a bit intimidating with all the "must be installed within 2 degrees.?" Grin now seems to be pushing the TDCM model which quite a few bucks less. Either is intriguing to me!
 
I guess I mainly intimidated by the thought of drilling into my bottom bracket at such a precise angle/location. I know that seems simple to most of you guys!
 
MeanGene36542 said:
Does anyone have any actual experience with any of the Grin bottom bracket torque sensor PAS units? I'm more than a little nervous about the install... drilling through the frame / bottom bracket specifically. I'd really appreciate any/all feedback/comments, particularly if anyone has actually ridden any of these AND the Bafang units to contrast!

http://www.ebikes.ca/shop/ebike-parts/torque-sensors.html

Hi,
I don't have experience with installing a torque-sensing BB, but I have carved up a few steel BB shells. There's not much to worry about in that regard - they're made of very thick steel and it's possible to remove quite a lot of it before things get compromised.
Savvas.
 
Great now I just need one big enough and reliable enough for a BB drive, oh and it can't measure motor torque as my input torque :)

LOL
 
amberwolf said:
d8veh said:
Any controller that has an LCD and at least 5 levels also gives very nice pedal assist. The advantage of a torque sensor isn't really enough to justify the expense, complexity and limitations.
Depends on how they designed the levels of PAS: there's 7 IIRC on the Fusin kit I've got, and I can't say I'm satisfied with how it works, regardless of settings, and it's lag for startup and shutdown when I start/stop pedalling is way too long. Needs to be instant, but that's not really possible with so few (5?) magnets--it would really have to use a continous ring magnet and an analog sensor like SIN/COS encoders use to get the kind of control I'd be after.


As I have yet to get the CAv3 fixed and setup with the THUN (laziness, money, and too many intervening events), I don't know how well it will work for me either, but I expect based on functional description and options in the CA that it will do exactly what I want.

As for how hard it is to setup, well, I think that Teklektik's UUG for the CAv3 should make it pretty easy for anyone to setup if they just follow the exact steps in it for what they want to do. So software setup is not that complex, and should be worth the extra effort to get the right settings, vs how at least some other PAS setups work.

Setting up the hardware itself could require tools most people won't have, because of taking out their old BB, so yeah that part is more complex than some PAS would be--but if the PAS sensor itself on a kit has to have it's bracket clamped under the BB locking ring, then that's no different--it may still require tools they won't have. (or misusing other tools for the purpose, risking damage to things).
The delay with the S12S is not bad.

I now use the Xiongda motor with their Kunteng controller and 12 magnet PAS on my main bike. The pick up and stop is nearly instant - much much faster than anything I tried before. It also uses current control instead of speed control like the S12S. This setup is really nice.
 
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