It's so easy to quit smoking

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My new friend for life, forum member ManoisEscobar, suggested I start a new thread based on his input that came up in the E-cigarette thread. Manny referred anyone paying attention to a free read that can change any smoker's life for the better, free and simple. As it turns out quitting smoking is super easy because the withdrawal symptoms from nicotine addiction are almost nothing AND we have all been brainwashed into thinking that quitting smoking is hard.

Yes nicotine is a highly addictive drug, but the withdrawal symptoms are almost nothing. This is not commonly known due to brain washing. Everything, from what we are told, to costly product sales pitches tells us over and over how hard quitting is, which reinforces the brainwashing. Like with anything, follow the money for a peek at the truth, and you see that the tobacco companies make billions for what is essentially an easy to grow weed, the government makes billions in tax revenue, and the medical establishment makes billions off of the side effects, not to mention the billions made supposedly helping people quit the hard way with chemicals, drugs, hypnosis, etc.

Especially in today's society, smokers think little of themselves and most want to quit. Anyone you think of who wants to quit, send them to http://media.wix.com/ugd/74fa87_2010cc5496521431188f905b7234a829.pdf . If you have children, make it a forced read for them so they have the appropriate ammunition in case they ever think they are invincible, like all teens do, so they are at least somewhat aware of the truth if they get hooked. Vocal non-smokers should read it too, and while Carr is a bit repetitive and condescending, it will help them understand smokers better, and maybe help guide them in the right direction.

Contrary to popular belief, nicotine addiction has very mild and short lived effects. Cigarette companies, doctors, drug companies, and even the government all profit greatly from the LIE that it is difficult to quit smoking. Take it from someone who knows and understands, when an addictive substance has its hooks in you and your brain has been convinced that withdrawal symptoms are significant, that combination results in an extremely low success rate in breaking the addiction. It turns out that nothing could be further from the truth with nicotine. Yes it's addictive, but withdrawal is almost nothing. Once those 2 FACTS sink in, it quickly become obvious that groups are making crazy amount of money off of you for no benefit....Would you pay someone to rake up a pile a leaves or newspaper to light on fire for you to inhale multiple times per day, every day, for the rest of your life? No, of course you wouldn't.

Anyone who made it this far, simply go to http://media.wix.com/ugd/74fa87_2010cc5496521431188f905b7234a829.pdf . Could Allen's words be less repetitive?....YES. Could they have been organized better?...Sure maybe, I've tried a bit above. The bottom line is that before I finished reading his words I smoked off and on...mostly on...for over 3 decades. When I finished the read I was a non-smoker. I even tested myself with 10 days before actually finishing and quitting. Now I am a non-smoker, and not like an ex-smoker who makes everyone who hasn't joined them's life miserable. If you really want to quit, like any long time smoker does, simply read Allen's pdf. If the first time doesn't take for you, then you probably cheated, and go thru again word for word and before you start be sure that you really do want to quit.

Personally, I saved the last chapter, and tried quitting early as a test. When I started again, those first few cigs tasted as nasty as they did as a teen when I started. That was something new for me, because the brainwashing caused me to taste that first cig after quitting, even for many months, like I hadn't even stopped, and the brainwashing had me suffering the entire time as if I was actually giving something up. It turned out that not only did the first cig taste super nasty, but I was so pissed off about the brainwashing aspect by all those with something to gain from me buying leaves 20 to a pack rolled in paper with a filter to soften the nasty taste, that when I went back and finished the read, I knew with no doubt whatsoever, that I will never smoke another cigarette again. FU you tobacco companies. FU government taxes. FU big pharmaceutical companies. FU any other sick frocks who make any money off of the most detrimental product to world health. Read http://media.wix.com/ugd/74fa87_2010cc5496521431188f905b7234a829.pdf

Like I told Manny, I like to think of myself as an intelligent person, and smoking made me think less of myself. The link above helped me understand the addiction from which I suffered since given free cigarettes during exam time back in 1978. Anyone with children should make that read mandatory while cigarettes are still legal. Any non-smokers or any ex-smokers who want to do good should read Carr's info if they really want to help, so they can better understand and refer others. Actually, they should go back and read it a 2nd time, so they really understand, since being an asshole toward anyone subjected to brainwashing and drug addiction at the same time is counter-productive at best. Those poor smoking souls should be given a second, third, or fourth chance, or however many times it takes. If you want to be an asshole, then direct that at the government, who is making huge tax revenues off your poor brethren.
 
Lifelong nonsmoker here. Among those quitting smoking I've observed:

A sister always had a reason she needed her cigarettes right then, quitting would have been too great a burden. Basically over her entire lifetime. When she was sick, getting tests for Leukemia, etc., she went right on smoking while complaining about how bad she felt. That had quite an effect on a brother when he was told he had skin cancer. He didn't hesitate to throw the cigarettes aside, said he never wanted to smoke again once he had.

My favorite was the 16 year old relative whose family had taken in a foster teen, whom he'd just caught drinking while he had a cigarette in his mouth: He was told 'You turn me in for drinking and I'll tell your mom you smoke.' He said "Huh-uh, because I QUIT!" Quite dramatically throwing the cigarette down. Make it about defiance and that boy can do anything; he decided a few days later he LIKED that breathing thing.

Smoking is nothing but a nervous habit: You just have to learn how to not be lighting up right then. I spend a few days at another sisters' house last year while she was in a chain smoking fit. I've coughed ever since. Thanks a lot.
 
Great write-up John. That amount of text would've taken me weeks!

It really is a handy book if you've ever had a failed attempt to quit. I only found out about the book through a long running 'lets quit smoking' thread in the somethingawful.com forums. A lot of people swore by it so I figured why not try it.

Total success. Definitely one of the better decisions I've ever made.


http://media.wix.com/ugd/74fa87_2010cc5496521431188f905b7234a829.pdf
 
Being one of those that smoked from high school on through college and into my twenties, I know how difficult it can be to quit smoking.

For me, quitting was about not buying that pack of smokes. I would enjoy a few cigarettes a day and if I had them with me, and had free time, I would light up. As a 'smoker' you are committed to smoking. It takes commitment to carry around that lighter and pack in your pocket, making sure you had enough for the day ahead. Just carrying that pack made you a 'smoker'. Drinking was also a big gateway drug to smoking. It just felt right to light up a smoke after drinking a few beers. So in order to enjoy a smoke after beer, I was a smoker, full time.

Then, my child came around and I got to dropping the habit by not buying packs. But when I was with some of my old friends having a beer, I would bum a cigarette. I enjoyed the freedom of being able to smoke and not be a 'smoker'. But what happened, was the smell and taste became GROSS. I had spent enough time 'not smoking' that having a cigarette tasted bad. So I'll stick to the green stuff that tastes good and actually stops the cancer :mrgreen:

For those times when I'm with buddies drinking, I got a e-cigarette and played around with some flavorings. It handles the physical need/desire to 'smoke' something and you can choose whether or not to have nicotine. I can pick up my e-cig and puff until my face is blue but I don't get any cravings later. I might puff on it one day and then not touch it for a couple weeks. I think e-cigs are the best of both worlds: No need to carry a pack that can and will go bad, no need to carry a lighter, you can gradually quit by removing the nicotine slowly, it doesn't make you smell bad and the taste is whatever you prefer.

One weird thing about e-cigarettes that I noticed last month: A boy was telling his mom or possibly aunt: "Do it again!!!, Do it again!!" and she took a drag of an e-cig and blew it in his face. He started jumping up and down saying: "It smells sooooo good!!". That part really weirded me out and that's the first negative thing I've noticed about them.

To anyone wanting to quit smoking, try e-cigs. It's a way to quit without giving it up all at once.
 
cal3thousand said:
the smell and taste became GROSS. I had spent enough time 'not smoking' that having a cigarette tasted bad. So I'll stick to the green stuff that tastes good and actually stops the cancer :mrgreen:

For those times when I'm with buddies drinking, I got a e-cigarette and played around with some flavorings. It handles the physical need/desire to 'smoke' something

I might puff on it one day and then not touch it for a couple weeks.

Are you saying you still smoke tobacco with your green, thus you need a replacement when with drinkers? But can go weeks as long as you still get your fix by mixing it with your green?

It sounds like your still a smoker to me.


It is illogical to smoke tobacco with your green. It causes congestion. It might stop you coughing, but it stops the green working properly. Quit baccy and you will smoke less weed to get just as stoned. You will no longer have a tobacco addiction, So will smoke whenever you please. You wouldn't want the daft looking e-cig unless you loaded it up with cannabis oil. The cancer benefits are thought to come from shrinking of the blood supply lines to the growths, slowing there development enough to win the battle. If you use a congestant your physically contracting the lung tissue that these supply lines run through, and if you shorten a pipe it gets fatter. Baccy counteracts the green.


Smoking neat green is different to a cigarette. Cigarette smokers are junkies. They try to get a big hit, and you just can't do a lung full of green like that. You don't take a lung full, you sip at it, and your now functional lungs do a great job at taking it in.
 
Bought - Allen Carr's Easy Way to Stop Smoking on Amazon for a smoker who is not so good with computers.
$0.01 plus $3.99 Shipping & Handling

Not sure how they make money selling used books for a penny? Book sellers probably make a little on the shipping?
 
friendly1uk said:
cal3thousand said:
the smell and taste became GROSS. I had spent enough time 'not smoking' that having a cigarette tasted bad. So I'll stick to the green stuff that tastes good and actually stops the cancer :mrgreen:

For those times when I'm with buddies drinking, I got a e-cigarette and played around with some flavorings. It handles the physical need/desire to 'smoke' something

I might puff on it one day and then not touch it for a couple weeks.

Are you saying you still smoke tobacco with your green, thus you need a replacement when with drinkers? But can go weeks as long as you still get your fix by mixing it with your green?

It sounds like your still a smoker to me.


It is illogical to smoke tobacco with your green. It causes congestion. It might stop you coughing, but it stops the green working properly. Quit baccy and you will smoke less weed to get just as stoned. You will no longer have a tobacco addiction, So will smoke whenever you please. You wouldn't want the daft looking e-cig unless you loaded it up with cannabis oil. The cancer benefits are thought to come from shrinking of the blood supply lines to the growths, slowing there development enough to win the battle. If you use a congestant your physically contracting the lung tissue that these supply lines run through, and if you shorten a pipe it gets fatter. Baccy counteracts the green.


Smoking neat green is different to a cigarette. Cigarette smokers are junkies. They try to get a big hit, and you just can't do a lung full of green like that. You don't take a lung full, you sip at it, and your now functional lungs do a great job at taking it in.

I don't smoke tobacco. I have an e-cig that I personally mix (Vegetable glycerin and flavorings) and have cartridges with nicotine and without. Haven't touched in at least a month though.

I smoke green without anything else and I have tried to make tinctures for my vape, but I stick to the flowers. And I don't "sip" green either... it's usually a much larger volume of smoke at a time in my "water pipe" (BTW, it has been determined that certain Cannabinoids stop tumors from growing, not blood supply loss.)

I also don't drink as much as I did. Maybe a happy hour with a beer or two every few weeks. I used to like drinking a beer (or two) each day.

My lungs are MUCH happier now than when I used tobacco. I don't have those 2-3 episodes per year of grey lung butter in the mornings.
 
Well that is all good news :)
Except the bong.. pipes and bongs generally mean your inhaling all the toxins from your lighter. 20,000 People die from air pollution in California each year. Sucking on a lighter is not a good idea.
 
friendly1uk said:
Well that is all good news :)
Except the bong.. pipes and bongs generally mean your inhaling all the toxins from your lighter. 20,000 People die from air pollution in California each year. Sucking on a lighter is not a good idea.

Butane burns MUCH cleaner than rolling paper or tobacco leaf. The only cleaner option is vaping.

20,000 people from air polution huh? Maybe I should be buying bottled air? :mrgreen:
 
I feel like I'm stalking you now lol

21 thousand. http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/3777/20130902/air-pollution-kills-200-000-people-year-study-shows.htm

Your lighter is unlikely to contain a clean product. Let some evaporate off a mirror or piece of glass. You can improve things by using gas destined for catalytic heaters such as soldering irons and hair straighteners. They don't get loaded with the heavy oils meant to stop people sniffing it. Even without loading, it is still dirty though. I'm not sure about the comparisons you have made though.

If you roll one you can light it in your hand. If you watch older smokers you will see they blow out the smoke created while the lighter was present. If you wash your green it will burn better so you can do this with your bong. Most products require the lighter holding there for a while though as they are not very clean. Generally pumped full of phosphates that dampen the fire, but most wash away. Along with the flavour..
 
friendly1uk said:
I feel like I'm stalking you now lol

21 thousand. http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/3777/20130902/air-pollution-kills-200-000-people-year-study-shows.htm

Your lighter is unlikely to contain a clean product. Let some evaporate off a mirror or piece of glass. You can improve things by using gas destined for catalytic heaters such as soldering irons and hair straighteners. They don't get loaded with the heavy oils meant to stop people sniffing it. Even without loading, it is still dirty though. I'm not sure about the comparisons you have made though.

If you roll one you can light it in your hand. If you watch older smokers you will see they blow out the smoke created while the lighter was present. If you wash your green it will burn better so you can do this with your bong. Most products require the lighter holding there for a while though as they are not very clean. Generally pumped full of phosphates that dampen the fire, but most wash away. Along with the flavour..

If you 'roll' one.. it's still rolled with PAPER! There's no way paper burns cleaner than butane (C4H10). Burn some butane and put it in a jar... nothing there but CO2 and H20 based on stoichiometry.

Burn some paper and you end up with ash and smoke. A bong is cleaner than a joint.

Here's another experiment:

Take a piece of paper towel and 'blow' out your smoke through the paper. Do this for a joint and a bong hit. Then tell me what is cleaner. :wink:
 
John in CR said:
Cal3thousand,

You're just kidding yourself and actually making yourself suffer by depraving yourself. Quitting is not giving anything up. Take the time to read http://media.wix.com/ugd/74fa87_2010cc5496521431188f905b7234a829.pdf. It will help you understand the brainwashing that makes it hard for smokers to stop.


That's the thing John. I used to suffer, not any more. That's why I offered my anecdotal 'evidence'. I don't feel the inclination to smoke anymore. I have the e-cig, but haven't it touched in a month (maybe more). I haven't had an analog cigarette since my company's holiday party in December.

I don't think quitting smoking is hard at all and I view it like I view drinking nowadays: a social vice that I partake in for an enjoyment of life. Any vice taken too far is abuse.

I don't need smoking and could care less if I couldn't have one ever again, but will enjoy one when I choose. That's my choice and it is my strength that will allow me to smoke on one day and not smoke the other 364 days.

A weaker person can't have just one. I used to be that weaker person, but no longer. (That's why I belive cigarettes are sold in packs and illegal in singles... to perpetuate the weakness)
 
cal3thousand said:
friendly1uk said:
I feel like I'm stalking you now lol

21 thousand. http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/3777/20130902/air-pollution-kills-200-000-people-year-study-shows.htm

Your lighter is unlikely to contain a clean product. Let some evaporate off a mirror or piece of glass. You can improve things by using gas destined for catalytic heaters such as soldering irons and hair straighteners. They don't get loaded with the heavy oils meant to stop people sniffing it. Even without loading, it is still dirty though. I'm not sure about the comparisons you have made though.

If you roll one you can light it in your hand. If you watch older smokers you will see they blow out the smoke created while the lighter was present. If you wash your green it will burn better so you can do this with your bong. Most products require the lighter holding there for a while though as they are not very clean. Generally pumped full of phosphates that dampen the fire, but most wash away. Along with the flavour..

If you 'roll' one.. it's still rolled with PAPER! There's no way paper burns cleaner than butane (C4H10). Burn some butane and put it in a jar... nothing there but CO2 and H20 based on stoichiometry.

Burn some paper and you end up with ash and smoke. A bong is cleaner than a joint.

Here's another experiment:

Take a piece of paper towel and 'blow' out your smoke through the paper. Do this for a joint and a bong hit. Then tell me what is cleaner. :wink:

I didn't realise butane was that clean, but it is the other stuff in there that is questionable. If you spray a can on a polished surface, you can see it leaves a residue. The stuff destined for butane powered devices is a lot cleaner.

Paper also gives off co2 and h20 leaving carbon ash. I see it that we have been burning wood for many generations. I don't know what is in that gas. A heavy oil from the petrochemical industry, and some chalky deposits. I'm just advising you might want to switch gas, but it is your choice.

I don't want a hit. I just tried it in high school and didn't inhale. I'm sure a filter that wasn't made of cardboard might help though. I guess I should leave that too the experts :)
 
Oooops... Stumbled on this thread in a search for "News of the weird"... But yeah, it's easy to quit "smoking" (burning gasoline for transportation). Many here on ES I expect went "cold turkey", and never looked back... except to laugh at car drivers, who apparently enjoy sitting "bumper to bumper" with their nose sorta stuck in the tailpipe (car exhaust) of the addict in front of them. Oooops... Did I use the word "addict"? Sorry!
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The cleanest way to use a bong or pipe is to light it with a hemp and beeswax wick. It's not just the thought of the nasty chemicals from the lighter that I hate, it's the taste of it too. This stuff works really well, and is all natural:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hemp-cord-100-with-Pure-Bees-wax-Hemp-Twine-Holds-Flame-/380657181804?pt=UK_Crafts_Other_Crafts_EH&var=&hash=item58a0efa46c
 
Nuclear radiation burns account for over 10,000 deaths a year.

Living on this planet is going to kill you one way or another.
 
ricklearned said:
deronmoped said:
Nuclear radiation burns account for over 10,000 deaths a year.

Living on this planet is going to kill you one way or another.
Seems high, do you have a source?
That is 27 people a day.

I believe he's talking about skin cancer deaths caused by the radiation from the sun, which of course is nuclear powered.

edit
Oh and BTW, I'm still a non-smoker, not an ex-smoker (ie no cravings, no getting militant about other smokers,...nothing). I think I was about a month in before the original post, so it's been a few months. Stopping was really such a non-event after reading Carr's ebook that I really have no idea how long it's been other than that it was before I started this thread.
 
I did it the hard way,but not by choice...I smoked a pipe,and occasionaly cigarettes and cigars,for over 50 years... had aorta aneurism..20 days in hospital.. close call... I was on the 6th floor and the smoking area was in the basenment... I had four machines attached to me for monitoring and the head nurse said"cant spare five nurses to transport you and your equipment'and just walked away.. the next couple of weeks

were very unpleasant ..nothing to do but lie in bed wishing I could smoke.. happily, I haven't smoked since... that 12 years ago :mrgreen:
 
John

Yeah, your right. People are surprised when that is pointed out to them. Something that gives this whole planet life, if taken too much of will kill a person.

People like to point out these wild unproven things that are supposeably going to kill us all (nuclear power will, just you wait), or in this case air pollution is killing us all now. It just seems so ridiculous that air pollution in California is killing 21,000 people a year. Think about it, "a" person (my grandfather) can smoke a couple packs a day for forty years and then switch to chew and then die of prostate cancer at 92. And on top of that, he was breathing this polluted air, getting a double whammy. Could of lived to 102 but that damn air pollution got him.

How come life expectancy isn't going down with all this air pollution taking it's toll on all of us? How many death certificates read, "cause of death", California. The air today in California is ten times cleaner then it used to be back in the 1980's. So I guess the death toll back then must of been in the 210,000 range every year. These wild things never add up.
 
Most of the people who fail at quitting smoking fail because of the psychological issues. Smokers have spent years building up psychological associations. For instance: a cigarette after I eat, a cigarette when I am sad, and a cigarette when I am happy.

When I quit, I had to catch myself. When I hit the "30 day with out a cigarette" milestone, my first inclination was to celebrate with, you guessed it, a cigarette. :oops:

I quit 12 years ago and when my wife and children were killed, I started again. It was like an old friend welcoming me back. I bought myself "the patch" last year for christmas and haven't had a cigarette since. So I am coming up on my one year anniversary.

Good luck to all who want to quit.
 
My wife smoked for nearly a decade of her life before I met her, then simply stopped and never smoked tobacco again. I know people who've done the same with meth and heroine and cocaine as well, and never touched them again after having a long duration sustained use period in there lives.

Your arms and legs don't pickup another cig and light it and breathe it in unless you command them to do so.

AFAIK, cigarettes/drugs can't take control of your bodies actions and smoke/use themselves against your will.

The problem is people are told they can't quit often enough that they believe it.
 
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