Member here harassing me after sale

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I was a bit perplexed myself, but what else would he have sent? Funny thing is now, even though Paypal confirmed my address, UPS says it's going to Texas via Chicago. Anyway, the wheel this thread is about is due here today. I'm looking forward to that. Mabye Paypal screwed up and sent the second tracking number to the wrong client.
Brian L.
 
RallySTX said:
The wheel has arrived, and the dispute has been closed.
Brian L.
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So, to summarise:

You paid for this wheel late on Friday 4th February.

You raised a dispute with PayPal and closed down the vendors account and means of trading on Tuesday 8th February, around TWO working days after paying for the order.

You received the wheel on Thursday 10th February, around FOUR working days after ordering it and closed the PayPal dispute.


FFS, this is simply unbelievable.

To hit someone so hard, by closing down their PayPal account and effectively stopping them from trading, when they seem to have provided you with a perfectly acceptable service (some might say bloody good service, delivering your wheel in just over 4 working days!) is totally unacceptable behaviour in my view.

I'm glad the dispute is closed, but frankly starting it in the first place was completely wrong, in my view and a gross over-reaction to a very, very minor communication delay over a weekend.

Jeremy
 
I hope he sent you a package of poo. That would be hilarious!

I think we should keep this thread posted at the top of the For Sale section as a lesson on what not to do.

I also think somebody owes a certain seller an apology.
 
Ok Jeremy, since you asked for it. Get your facts straight. The feedback issue DURING THE WEEK! was the problem. And you never have made a secret of your low opinion of me from the beginning have you? And Ampeaters willingness to whine in public about something that a worldwide business had no problem with, is far more illuminating than you girlies willingness to kick arround someone you never met. It's easy to slander someone who's poor isn't it! Nowhere on Paypal did I see anything about accounts being restricted. Also Ampeater's precious account rating that I so heavily damaged seems to be a bit of a fiction. I know how some people get when you ruffle their hair, but you girlies are rediculous! I don't recall ever offering to, or even seeing anything Lesse wanted to sell here. So as far as I am concerned that's no loss. Etard, you shouldn't try so hard to live down to your name. Funny thing is, if his account was frozen, how did he get the transaction done for the second package he sent the next day? Not that it's any of my business, I only know about it because Paypal notified me at his request. Which brings me to this, If you can excuse his behavior, but not mine, YOU'RE THE PROBLEM HERE! He got his money, I got a wheel, it's over. He made it public bacause he wanted to whine, and make trouble for someone he didn't like. I have seen more than enough bigotry here to know better than to expect anything less than the worst possible common denominator. Thank the three of you for proving me right! I stood up for my rights, and got dragged through the mudd by self rightous fools with nothing but hate in their hearts. To them I say too bad it didn't happen to you. To the few reasoning people who can read, and proved it here, you have my undying respect. You know who you are!
Brian L.
 
RallySTX said:
Ok Jeremy, since you asked for it. Get your facts straight. The feedback issue DURING THE WEEK! was the problem. And you never have made a secret of your low opinion of me from the beginning have you? And Mr Meads willingness to whine in public about something that a worldwide business had no problem with, is far more illuminating than you girlies willingness to kick arround someone you never met. It's easy to slander someone who's poor isn't it! Nowhere on Paypal did I see anything about accounts being restricted. Also Mr Meads precious account rating that I so heavily damaged seems to be a bit of a fiction. I know how some people get when you ruffle their hair, but you girlies are rediculous! I don't recall ever offering to, or even seeing anything Lesse wanted to sell here. So as far as I am concerned that's no loss. Etard, you shouldn't try so hard to live down to your name. Funny thing is, if his account was frozen, how did he get the transaction done for the second package he sent the next day? Not that it's any of my business, I only know about it because Paypal notified me at his request. Which brings me to this, If you can excuse his behavior, but not mine, YOU'RE THE PROBLEM HERE! He got his money, I got a wheel, it's over. He made it public bacause he wanted to whine, and make trouble for someone he didn't like. I have seen more than enough bigotry here to know better than to expect anything less than the worst possible common denominator. Thank the three of you for proving me right! I stood up for my rights, and got dragged through the mudd by self rightous fools with nothing but hate in their hearts. To them I say too bad it didn't happen to you. To the few reasoning people who can read, and proved it here, you have my undying respect. You know who you are!
Brian L.
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Frankly I don't know you from Adam and had no particular opinion of you prior to this debacle. I certainly do hold an opinion about you now, though, more from the way you've tried to justify your error in filing a very premature PayPal claim than for any other reason.

I don't blame the vendor for making your behaviour towards him public, frankly I'd have done the same under the circumstances.

I do know that PayPal stop account transactions as soon as a dispute is filed, so that they can be sure to pull the money back from the account. It's one reason that filing disputes should be a measure of last resort, when all other avenues have failed. To file a dispute a couple of working days after making the payment is just crazy and a complete over-reaction.

As for your rights, remember this cuts both ways. People on both sides of a transaction have rights and are expected to act reasonably and honour the rights of the other. The only unreasonable behaviour I've seen is from you, displaying paranoia at not getting instant responses to emails and PMs, completely over-reacting to a couple of days (over a weekend) of not hearing anything and then filing a wholly unreasonable PayPal claim. The flip side is that the vendor despatched your wheel very quickly and you got it four working days after you paid for it, which has to be pretty damned good service, however you look at it.

Just what could the vendor have done to give you better service?

Should he have called you every hour to keep on reassuring you that all was well, rather than let your paranoia grow?

My definition of reasonable for an internet purchase is to get some sort of order confirmation within two or three days of payment, perhaps followed by a despatch notification a few days after that, with the goods arriving within two or three weeks of the order. I don't think it's reasonable to file a claim 2 working days after making payment and doubt that many folk would.

Jeremy

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RallySTX said:
Now I know where to send the best beating of a dead horse award to.
Brian L.
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Just accept you made an error of judgement here and I'd guess all this critical comment will stop. For as long as you continue to defend your over-action I'd guess folk are going to feel that commenting on it is fair game.

Jeremy
 
RallySTX said:
I would never back off when I am right. You however have proven yourself to be exploitive, and sadistic. You're the game now Jeremy.
Brian L.
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Come on man, who files a paypal dispute after only a few days? Jeremy is one of the most level-headed and intelligent guys here, it's not him, it's you. Just apologize and move on.
 
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