So, my KAT died

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Over about 8 years KAT has grown in popularity greatly. . . till now?
KAT.CR was the latest domain, and along with the rest it was 'seized' this week by feds. . . .

KAT was awesome (way better than goog) at organizing trackers for tv shows recently aired, and stuff that's not on tv at all and long-lost. There was also alot of original content tracked, and other stuff from around the world.

Same as goog, KAT complied with all dmca take down requests, meaning it complied with copyright law.

However, it seems the US federal gov had a bone to pick and infiltrated the site, identified a potential owner, and brought the 30y/o up on charges of copyright infringement and money laundering.
Apparently Johnny has a long reach, even to non-citizens and websites in europe!!!

https://torrentfreak.com/feds-seize-kickasstorrents-domains-charge-owner-160720/
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-21/how-the-us-government-brought-down-kickass-torrents/7649862

Worst of all, there was/is an awesome community even more varied than ES. The forum was awesome, though the size (and commercialization) brought limitations/downsides that we don't have here. Long live ES!

I'm interested in any news on this, so if you're also following and have something to share please do!

Sidenote . . . . Who else says screw the commercial assault that happens for 30% of almost all TV time??? I could see commercials on the 'free' over-the-air channels, but when you are paying monthly for cable and/or internet anyway???? Things will change, someday.
 
I seriously find things I'm curious about on YouTube all the time. Such as a TV appearance by Director Henry Jaglom, who started out as an actor. I read about this and it's like one of those shockers.

So some of these old TV shows get pointed out as "Worst of all time," etc. Certainly 'The Flying Nun' has popped up on 10 worst lists from time to time, but I'd say you'd have to have missed a lot of bad shows to think that. Sally Field originally refused, but told them she'd changed her mind AFTER production of the pilot had started with the Daughter of Bobby Troup, ('I get my kicks on Route 66') probably assuming she'd waited until it was too late but at least pretending to be more cooperative about offerings. Ronnie Troup was instantly pitched out of the role and Field was trapped.

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With the success of the singing career of Sister Soirre, The Singing Nun, those pesky nuns became a popular subject for films, such as 'The Trouble with Angels,' 'A Sister's Story,' and of course the fictional version of 'The Singing Nun.' So occasional author Tere Rios got the idea of taking a nun she'd seen struggling with her habit in strong winds and having her swept off the ground and into formation with a flock of pelicans who scatter when they fly over a military base that takes potshots at them. Sister Bertrille discovers she has no ability to maneuver as the pelicans do, and is shot down. . . .

Shortly after the novel she'd dedicated to her son and to the children of Asia was released, her son, two years a prisoner of the Viet Cong, was executed. With the popularity of nuns at the time, Field found herself stuck with the TV role for 3 years. In the middle of such shots as opening with the dog causing her to be airborne by towing her along, directors would call cut and discuss the effort as she hung in the air. Sometimes they'd grab her and drag her along into the position they wanted. She spoke of members of the management and the crew who would call her a "Pig" when she got pregnant, lazy, selfish, of course also tell her that she was a lousy actress. This to someone who would become one of the most honored actresses in history, with multiple Oscars, Emmys, Golden Globe Awards, etc. Mercifully, the show was cancelled and she got on with her more serious career, beginning with 'Maybe I'll come Home in the spring.' (A really different but interesting low budget effort.)

So mentioning that Harlan Ellison had a writing credit from 'The Flying Nun' the other night reminded me of reading about the surprise Emmy nomination of the episode of the show that had features Jaglom. What would it mean if Field, Ellison and Jaglom had all come together for the lone outstanding episode of the show. No such luck. But finding the name of the episode on IMDB.com led to me being able to find it on YouTube. When I see old TV from that era, I'm struck by just how BAD the writing was. The cast of the legendary 'All in the Family' would all remark at the writers being furious at them for refusing to speak the lines as written and often coming up with something completely different from what they'd been handed. Probably the only reason the show was memorable. I'll just say this episode is distinguished by NOT being painful either in its' concept or it's execution. Perky Sister Bertrille is in fact on the run, hiding out in the convent after being arrested as some militant Weatherman wannabee, needing to keep up appearances with a nunlike front. (Knowing that premise, lost in the ongoing story line of the show, adds to the coming confrontation.) The temptation to explore an old mine shaft leads to a scuffle with an escaped convict and a cave in. The trademark Field/Bertrille cheery optimism faces a showdown with the typical charming fatalism of the self pitying Jaglom character. It's a test of wills as the nun won't give up trying to escape while the escapee insists they're already as good as dead. Occasionally in the series the person Sister Bertrille is trying to leave behind might emerge from under the nun habit; the Jaglom character might not be ready for what he's going to face when he succeeds at breaking her optimism.

Ah, it feels like I'm exaggerating, doesn't it? In fact, it's all there, it's just it could have been done better. This show is contemporary to 'Hogan's Heroes,' the zany yet sometimes serious forebear of 'M.A.S.H.' I can just see the producers of 'The Flying Nun' seeing that they already had something better than any other episode of the show, so why not stop there? Oh darn, why not take advantage of the opportunity to do you best work? To have a moment thinking of what might have been? To maybe actually WIN that Emmy for your show that overall rivaled 'My Mother the Car' as the butt of "Was this show REALLY necessary?" jokes. I can't help but wonder if wasn't there any temptation to think this through just a little better. Any at all?

Ah well, I still enjoyed watching Field and Jaglom 'Chew the Furniture,' as we say of actors who are determined to do their best work even as they're handed the worst material. And just knowing how this has to end didn't blunt the comedic impact when our title character finally lives up to her billing after her failed efforts to reach the opening high above. I see this and I think it's a shame that Jaglom never became a star in his own right. The guy trying to insist from now on he's just out for himself but who can't help but feel sorry for this woman who's losing her mind: ('Promise me that after I fly out of here you won't tell anyone." "Oh, believe me, I have NO INTENTION of ever talking about that.")

The loss of her son seemed to take the wind out of the sails of a brief writing career. Her third and most successful novel would be her last. But Marie Teresa Rios Versace tried to parlay the modest success of her novel and the TV series it spawned into a meeting with the North Vietnamese delegation at the Paris Peace Talks. Although she failed, there is a statue of her son with two Vietnamese children is on display at the Captain Rocky Versace Plaza and Vietnam Memorial in Alexandria, Virginia. Another son, Dick Versace, is a former head coach of the Indiana Pacers.

Yeah, I went to school to learn to do story analysis like this. Sometimes it seems wasted on things I use it for. But it seems like a reason to watch even the bad old shows.

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youtube is definitely awesome. I like all the original content. It's 2nd to none for that imo. It does also have some of the scarcest media/commercial stuff. Alot of the movies though seem to be just links to hashes, whereas the music and music video is all there. :?:

I had heard Kat had a mirror, but the Armenian site seems it will be the real deal. I'm lookin forward to full functionality of main page and forum!
https://www.technotification.com/2016/07/kickasstorrents-comes-back-new-domain-kat.html
My tax guy is half armenian :)

They say goog is THE copyright offender, mainly I think with utube. I'm not sure why or the specifics though. Utube for me is definitely mostly the 'original content'
 
nutspecial said:


Over about 8 years KAT has grown in popularity greatly. . . till now?
KAT.CR was the latest domain, and along with the rest it was 'seized' this week by feds. . . .

KAT was awesome (way better than goog) at organizing trackers for tv shows recently aired, and stuff that's not on tv at all and long-lost. There was also alot of original content tracked, and other stuff from around the world.

Same as goog, KAT complied with all dmca take down requests, meaning it complied with copyright law.

However, it seems the US federal gov had a bone to pick and infiltrated the site, identified a potential owner, and brought the 30y/o up on charges of copyright infringement and money laundering.
Apparently Johnny has a long reach, even to non-citizens and websites in europe!!!

https://torrentfreak.com/feds-seize-kickasstorrents-domains-charge-owner-160720/
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-21/how-the-us-government-brought-down-kickass-torrents/7649862

Worst of all, there was/is an awesome community even more varied than ES. The forum was awesome, though the size (and commercialization) brought limitations/downsides that we don't have here. Long live ES!

I'm interested in any news on this, so if you're also following and have something to share please do!

Sidenote . . . . Who else says screw the commercial assault that happens for 30% of almost all TV time??? I could see commercials on the 'free' over-the-air channels, but when you are paying monthly for cable and/or internet anyway???? Things will change, someday.

Really, some russian or chinese person needs to start a popular torrent site and let the USA know, "All your base are belong to us.".

Maybe Edward Snowden could host a popular torrent site? I could see it, lol.

(So far, the USA has reached into New Zealand (Kim Millions), Sweden (Isohunt) and now Poland. I'm thinking heartland Russia and China might be our only hope for FREEDOM!, lol. Really, it seems like the USA has sway in mainly countries populated by Europeans and the like, I wonder if Hong Kong, Singapore, Indonesia, Brazil, etc., might be more untouchable places for the USA? It seems like I see an abnormal amount of hacker traffic from Brazil.)
 
Yes, they're less touchable . . . it's nice to consider these things (and life) as a simple bystander sometimes to make a contribution. No pressure or stress that way. Individually we are like grains of sand, considering the amount of humans over time.

Here's a little news on the founder.
Artem Vaulin, the alleged founder of KickassTorrents, was arrested in Poland in July and has been held in a local prison since. The Polish police acted on a criminal complaint from the US government, and now the 30-year-old Ukrainian is charged with criminal copyright infringement and money laundering.

Vaulin hired an expert in file-sharing cases, who was defending MegaUpload and isoHunt – Ira Rothken. The lawyer claimed that allegations against the site owner are baseless. While not addressing whether Vaulin is indeed the owner of the site, Rothken argues that the changes don’t hold up and requests the US authorities to dismiss the criminal complaint against his client and release him from prison.

Ira Rothken argues that the alleged KAT owner can’t be held responsible for the infringing actions of the KickassTorrents users, since criminal secondary or indirect copyright infringement does not exist under US law. The lawyer points out that KickassTorrents itself never hosted any infringing content, but only stored torrent files. In other words, possible copyright infringements would take place after the visitors had left KickassTorrents. Besides, the affidavit lacks specific examples linking Vaulin to infringing downloads: actually, the only relevant infringement quoted is one committed by an agent from Homeland Security Investigations.

Vaulin’s defense believes that the absence of any specific allegations is not an oversight, but rather a side effect of how far the site owner is removed from the copyright infringing acts. Noting the weakness of the criminal claims, Rothken asks the US Department of Justice to drop the charges against Vaulin and set him free.

The lawyer has sent the US government a letter, which also urges the authorities not to question, interrogate, or interview Artyom Vaulin. In addition, Rothken asked to allow him immediately speak with Vaulin in prison so he can assist with his defense.

[strike]the[/strike] (any alleged) infringing actions of the KickassTorrents users
My only disagreement in wording. Since when is it even illegal to 'share'? Is it coming to the point where each individual that will view something has to pay individually (and don't they already do in one sense or another??)? Somehow under same roof and at similar time is the cutoff to 'sharing'? Pretty sure there's been no legal precedent set there in regards to sharing in this sense. Seems like as long as you aren't trying to 'profit' there is still nothing illegal about sharing?

http://extratorrent.cc/article/5148/kickasstorrents+founder+asked+us+to+drop+the+case.html
 
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