Starting an Engineering Degree, Any tips?

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Hey,

I am biting the bullet and going to attempt this..
just wanted to see who else is undertaking any engineering degree's?
I just got accepted and start next week on a bachelor of electronics and electrical engineering... after thoroughly reading through the course content I am very excited..
My biggest issue will be doing advance math, I am brushing up on my maths skills @ kahns academy www.khanacademy.org, Used this site in the past for chemistry and i must say this guy kahn is very good at explaining things. Good for all the basic stuff that is for sure.

if anyone knows of any good books i should get, I would greatly appreciate it if you post it up here :p
 
Just remember, at University whilst they teach you electrical / electronics etc, what they actually test you on is your ability to "learn" independently and analyse things yourself.....not just memorize and regurgitate information.
Whilst its much easier these days with the net and Google etc, dont fall into the "cut/paste" trap for your research and submissions. try to think independently and originally.
Biggest tip ?..... finish the course !
 
yeah man, I hear you...

Yes i want to learn as much as possible, I have even created a Brain diet, Lots of good fats...
Tempted by some legal nootropics as well for better memory recall... I guess ill see how I go for the first trimester
 
kriskros said:
WORK HARD... CONCENTYRATE.... NO BOOZE,NO PARTIES, NO SEX until graduation day...enjoy

OMG
Worst advice ever. lol If you're not enjoying life, why bother?


There is no need for a formal organized education system anymore. The interwibs can do a better job at self-teaching you anything you wish to learn if you're motivated to learn it. If you're not motivated to learn it, it doesn't matter if you're sitting in a classroom or not, it's not going to be a productive use of your time.

When I select interns, at this point don't even glance at the 'education' section of the resume anymore. This is after typically finding the lowest GPA students turned out to be the most useful while the highest GPA honor students were typically worthless.

I make my selections based on what they have accomplished, and what useful skills and passions and drives they have.
 
Wait a minute, those lowest GPA students are often the people who took the useful classes, while the partiers spent their time in basketweaving and got A's.

At first I thought "Interwib" was supposed to mean 'Interwin.' I've yet to see an internet educated individual I could put much stock in.

In California the Community Colleges are crowded but they're cheap. You get two years of college and a 2 year degree, an Associate in Arts or Associate in Sciences. I tell people to get the AA in math since you don't need the same degree as you get at the 4 year school. Don't know if you guys have community colleges.
 
liveforphysics said:
When I select interns, at this point don't even glance at the 'education' section of the resume anymore. This is after typically finding the lowest GPA students turned out to be the most useful while the highest GPA honor students were typically worthless.

I make my selections based on what they have accomplished, and what useful skills and passions and drives they have.

+1

That's pretty much why the human resource department should be kept on a tight leash.

Some of my friends were state and country ranked for various subjects, mensa types.
Didn't amount to shit because they lacked the drive to connect academia and work.

Select the subjects that interest you, understand that time is your most valuable asset and pursuit the things that you find yourself passionate about.
Engineering is not the type of field that rewards you equally for the work you put in, so you gotta find something that keeps you going.

Unless you're an EE working FiFo in the mines after some good money.
 
A Degree is not a golden ticket by any means, however getting an education can work to your advantage if you seek out specific opportunities. You may have a career started before you ever finish your degree if you make an effort to work with faculty/alumni/peers etc. If your interests are very specific, EV for example, make this your focus of conversation once you've associated with someone at a scholastic level and established that they will be a worthy contribution to you. Investigate what EV industry there is in your travel area and visit them as a student looking for opportunities.
 
Hey Jason, well done on being accepted!
Which Uni?

Would you believe I'm organising my PCA and STAT right now so I can apply to do Mech. Eng. starting semester 2 at QUT? I'm hoping to get a high enough mark to be accepted, any way.

I check through the topics on the Engineering reddit subs every now and then which have some interesting info. Most of the people on there are from the U.S., but there are some good links for learning/brushing up on certain topics that get thrown around there.

http://reddit.com/r/askengineers
http://reddit.com/r/engineeringstudents
http://reddit.com/r/engineers

There's also: http://physicsforums.com
 
my number one motivation to do this, So i can do more, I can work things out and see if its suitable to even do.
It will help me with obtaining work in the field, But also help me greatly with my hobbies...
I think much of the course I can relate to many projects i have done or attempted
And I am done working in an office environment

Id love to work in the EV industry, its getting bigger and bigger every year,



The course I am doing is AT deakin unversity, It will actually be done mostly over the internet, I think every 6 months I will attend week full of workshops .. I will need to travel to the actual uni in another State.


Getting accepted is the easy part i think, I just need to do well, Don't want to waste money on repeating modules.



Thanks all for the kind words
 
IMHO it is important that one *love* wattEVer subject you take. (I started University first time to be an electrical engineer, but quickly found I couldn't drink enough. Maybe "things" have changed since decades ago.)

Also, really important that one get a "good" teacher (eg do they party w/their students?). A "good" teacher may yet be able to infuse love and mystery in their students/subject.

And in your life, at some point pass your knowledge/love of the subject on to a younger generation. In other words, any "teacher" must still be *open to learning*, and should have once upon a time been a "student" themselves (just never stopped learning).

And as a student, study as if your life depends on it. It does (and others lives will probably too).
 
kriskros said:
WORK HARD... CONCENTYRATE.... NO BOOZE,NO PARTIES, NO SEX until graduation day...enjoy
NOT something I would do personaly.. yyuuukkkk....always be carefull about accepting advice
 
kriskros said:
....NO BOOZE,NO PARTIES, NO SEX until graduation day...enjoy

These things take practice, or you'll blow out early.
 
I can only speak from personal experience –

When I graduated from HS – I was not mentally ready for college (late bloomer) + I came from a low middle class family and could not depend upon parental support. Instead I elected to join the US Navy as an Engineer (Steam Propulsion, caveat with Nuclear) which was two-fold: On-the-Job training (Vocational) + Discipline (Military) + Educational Benefits (VA). At the time I joined (1976), I was fully vested for 4-years paid college tuition. In theory – that satisfied several goals: Service to my country, see the world, learn something new, and invest in the future. The reality was more difficult: It sucked being in the military -> lions led by donkeys, saw a lot of California (my home State), and working with the VA was highly flawed with more donkeys deciding my fate. If I had to do that part over again…

Wishfully... I would have done some form of civil service like Forestry during the summer or perhaps with the State Department in some program overseas. The reality is that both of these directions do not provide much wealth other than “experience in humanities” taking the long view of working with people as a manager… otherwise known as “growing up a bit”.

Still I always envied those that could go straight from HS to college; my flaw was that I wanted to explore – try everything, then decide. A lot of this came from an experience when my brother and I met a distant cousin at a cousin reunion who had 3 degrees, but was not satisfied and struggled to find a job. This put a real fear in me about making the wrong career choices. Strangely this would later rear an interesting fork in my path.

Not saying my route was the best, but I had to work for a living and chose accordingly jobs to pay my way forward. After the Navy I went to night school but worked mainly in construction (laborer) and later in food service (bartender, then management for one year). Two years of JC was enough; I had a double major in Art & Engineering (transfer program). Moved to a large city and used my VA to enroll in a Technical College and took the Electromechanical Drafting & Design course which I mastered, owing much to past experience. Six years after graduating from HS I was essentially a Junior Design Engineer with an equivalent of a 2-year degree working in the field.

Now two years behind a 4-year grad, but I have 4-years of “Engineering” experience. However – the graduates always had the upper hand on theoretical engineering even though I had them on practical engineering. Book-knowledge does not make good product, but a degree is more respected, especially if they went to a premier university. So in that sense – I was fugged from the start of my plan.

This has dogged me all my career.

The second mistake I made was becoming a contractor: After four years as W-2 employee, I lit out on my own after some convincing that contractors make more $$$ - which is true if you can stay gainfully employed, and began my first company (which is still going). I have freelanced since 1987. In that time I have worked for all sorts of companies and seen all sorts of technologies – far faster than an employee could. Yet there is a thing about being an employee wherein as you put time into position, so comes seniority – and management. Ultimately contracting jobs become the jobs no one wants, so you end up doing the drudgery, the shit work. Plus contractors can be cut at any time.

About a year before I became self-employed I went back to college to finish the 4-year, but by this time I knew enough about Engineering to spot the bullshit that college teaches; crap you will never use in Life. College is just a trial, a baptism, a crucible, a rite of passage that young people must go through – and if you pass then you are worthy of that piece of paper which says you are qualified to be whatever it is you set out to be. Again, book knowledge does not make a professional. Practical knowledge though does.

The curious thing about being an engineer (actually those are synonymous terms) is that it affords the reasons and license to explore. As long as you have a heart to explore, to not give up until every stone has been turned, the underside of every leaf exposed, the thread of investigation completely concluded – then you are an engineer on the path of discovery. Book knowledge prepares the way, but much learning follows. Networking helps too – and college provides an opportunity to build friendships (or at least introductions). Engineering is a lot about networking and leveraging your contacts.

Engineering is also close to Lawyering. It is about Specifications, Contracts, Economics, Management, Timelines, and also about Accountability. Documentation should rule, but often – we work without a net. :roll:

For myself, I never stop learning. Every day is a new adventure. After 30+ years, I am cross-trained on multiple disciplines which includes (I never saw this coming in 1983) Software Development (on my own, in the field), knowing over 26 programming languages (styles might be a better way to express this).

As a Contractor - I’ve been in management running a team of 14 direct reports, and I’ve been the lone wolf responsible for the whole frippen deliverable. Yet I lament – if only I had the 4-year degree:cry: Never finished it because I saw bullshit in the education system – which is why I created my first ebike (in protest), which led to me working in the top-job as lead designer at a top-flight company, and ultimately led to me becoming self-employed.

I’ve had Calculus, but only used it twice – both in software to solve a problem programmatically. I’ve had Physics, but never used it beyond simple load calculations until I started exploring Motors here on ES. I’ve had Chemistry – and never had an application for it beyond cursory use in surface treatments or plastic alloys. I applied more Thermo in the Navy than as a Professional, expect for … Motors on ES.

College overloads you with bullshit. Once I realized this I began to take the classes that interested me, like Business Law – so I could write contracts and seek patents, History (for the love of Humanity), Economics (to run my own business, and start others), and most of all – English Literature (again, Humanities). When you are an Engineer, you must be conversant, you must be topical, you must be interesting in the eyes of those about to hire you.

Had I to do it over again knowing what I know, I think I would have chosen Patent Lawyer – because I have a relentless technical and legal mind with a penchant towards documentation, evidence by another name. I missed that boat. As it is, I must be more clever, more resilient, and persistent in detail to present my ideas to move forward in the hegemony of Life. And a little college paper would have made that process much easier if I were willing to bend over and take it up the wazoo when I woz a lad right after HS.

Fiefdom of One. KF

PS – Seriousness aside, I partied like a mofo, though slowing down now cos I ain’t a spring chicken no mo. But catch me at the pub, and let’s clink a few! Anytime 8)
 
Hillhater said:
kriskros said:
WORK HARD... CONCENTYRATE.... NO BOOZE,NO PARTIES, NO SEX until graduation day...enjoy

So, is that an "OK" for.... DRUGS, Gambling, Street racing, etc etc ..??? :mrgreen:
you should not allow more than one day a wqeek for eah extra curricular activity :mrgreen:
 
Kingfish said:
Had I to do it over again knowing what I know, I think I would have chosen Patent Lawyer

I think we should start a new thread titled.. "Had I to do it over again knowing what I know....."
..for me, i would have Worked hard on my golf game ( aiming to make the pro circuit ..Ha ! :roll: )
...whilst studying to be a dentist for that income stream when pro sport finished.
Dentists and Lawyers...well paid , always in demand, and plenty of work anywhere you want to live ! 8)
 
Ummm... I hope to be a writer. About something I hope I know a little about. :) But studying *anything* can hopefully teach one discipline at least (if one hopes to excel at anything).
 
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