Enric said:
Thanks for the info Tomm,
I find interesting that you say about to buy without wheels and fork, I think if if buy it, i will buy in that way.
24 kg without battery it's good for me.
My FS bike with BBSH weights 25kg, but I have a fat bike with BBSHD and weights 30Kg. I would like to replace the fat bike with a coaxial.
Can you give me the info of the fork ?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/X-FUSION-V...-27-5-Travel-170mm-Tapered-White/362142927552
https://www.ebay.com/itm/X-FUSION-V...rk-27-5-Travel-170mm-1-1-8-White/362142927608
https://www.ebay.com/itm/X-Fusion-Vengeance-HLR-Air-160mm-26-Suspension-Fork-NEW/263903327216
This fork was made in ~2013 as the high end fox36 competitor $900 new. In reviews, it was said to be as good or better. It has 36mm stantions, even some bigger triple crown forks like the usd-8 only have 35mm thick ones. It is a big, strong beast, perfect for this bike.
You can ask for tapered headtube coaxial bike and buy tapered version(first link), tapered headtube is newer technology and is stronger. Plus if you don't go triple crown, the fork looks like a bike fork and not a motorbike, so it keeps it stealth. The ugly black stripes are probably a problem with the picture and not actually there. The logos are stickers you can peel off easily. If you order a black bike it might be matte black, that case you can paint it matte black easily.
Keep in mind, triple crown forks are 1/8 and not tapered, so if you think you might upgrade to triple crown, don't buy tapered headtube version bike.
Enric said:
It's the frame strong enough to support the power of the motor ?
Yes. Since it works at high rpm and low torque up until the cassette, all the torque will only happen in the wheel hub. This is why a strong bike chain like kmc x9-93 is enough.
Enric said:
The controller has display to see speed, volts, or watts ?
I'ts possible to attach a cycle analyst to the controller ? I would like to attach a CA and connect the optional internal PAS sensor to use not only with the throttle.
The controller has bluetooth app and it can be adjusted quite well. It will display motor rpm, amps. If you buy throttle with LCD display you can see volts on your handle bar. I don't have a CA but you can search cyclone motor thread for CA info. I can configure it fine, so I don't need it. I just use alu phone mount with phone as display.
I ordered the PAS in my bike, and I would say don't do it. The PAS in this bike is extremely stupid, it is on/off switch. Too aggressive. It is a waste of money.
If you really want PAS you can try to install CA and use CA PAS, or make your own CA with arduino and the internal PAS option.
When I ride I either: 1, Use throttle, 2, Pedal and touch throttle lightly, works up to 32kph, 3, Use auto cruise control.
Since I have cruise control I don't worry about PAS, just hit throttle for 6 seconds at same speed and it turns on.
You have to remember at 3-4kw, the amount of power(300-600w) you can provide to help the motor is very small. So pedaling doesn't make too much sense.
Enric said:
I'ts possible to use at low speed in something similar to trial spots ? or it's only a motor to speedy ?
I would like to have a ebike more trial/enduro, not speedy. For mi it's not interesting to reach higher speeds. I prefer move in 20-30km range easily with lots of power, but has the ability to move a 5kmh with precise control.
It is geared quite high, if you use 72v battery (you should) and use 22t front 50t rear (you should) the top speed is ~34kph in slowest gear. But in this gear it is much more stronger than a bbshd in a 36t front 42t rear or similar and the bbshd will have about 12kph max speed in that gear. Depending on your controller settings, the throttle has better or worse control than the bafang throttle.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChRzFAwp0tOpFqFSchp2omQ
You can check out sac's channel to see what this bike can do, I use it on similar trails. It can climb hills and embankments but I would not use it to jump, but I don't jump any other bikes either. If you use throttle and jump and land at the same time, you will probably have some problem.
It can handle what your fat bike can, but this bike really shines as a stealth supermoto that can comfortably go 40-50kph on dirt trails, 70-80kph on street and still look like a normal bike.