KTM 85SX conversion thread

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Hello folks, I haven't been here for some time and this will be my KTM build thread.
I purchased this bike 10 years ago or so, previous owner had blew the engine, removed cylinder and then stored the bike outside. Of course the rain did fill up the engine eventually and when I got the bike the engine was rusted solid.
I converted the bike to YX140 chinese pit bike 4-stroke, this involved lengthening the frame a bit so that the engine would clear the front tire.
I used that bike for a number of years as my daily driver at my summer home, which was at small island of Prangli, Estonia (see youytube videos, it's really cool place, and you could drive whatever you like, because of no police involved). However I didn't like the "tractorness" of that 4-stroke engine, vibration and general slugishness and it also developed nasty knock, which I couldn't figure out. So, when I saw used QS 138 90H kit on sale, with EM200 controller, complete harness with throttles, DC-DC inverter and so on, it didn't need long and hard thinking. That 4-stroke lump has to go and make room for zippy QS138.
This is how it looks right now:
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Now, the batteries.
I happen to have a shitload of used 8000mAh 5S LiPo packs, which I "recycled" from my previous job. Most of them are really in great shape, some of them are slightly undervoltage, but also curable. Some are almost dead. I think I have 50pcs of them or more.sls-slsap80003125-apl-8000mah-3s1p-11-1v-25c-40c-37564-33229-SjFE.jpg
Also, being aware of dangers involving LiPo batteries, I want to build a safe system so I don't burn my house down. So, I had this idea of dividing the battery pack into smaller sub-packs, each in separate aluminium enclosure and having it's own 5S BMS-es inside those modules. Or, at least making PCB-s inside the modules, that would connect separate LiPo batteries together with balance plugs and having thicker copper busbars soldered onto PCB trails - and then having external connector for central BMS harness.
 
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Some progress, stripped the IC engine and accessories from the bike and tried the new stuff on. Looks like it fits quite nicely.
 

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I'm in the process of converting the same bike with that motor as well. I've already got qs138, far driver 72450 and an amorge 72v 28ah 175a battery. Currently trying to figure out how to design the motor mounts for it.
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Also, here is a simple chain guard I designed for the motor if you are interested in the file.
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I'm gonna use the motors own bracket and mount it to the swingarm shaft. In addition, two 3mm lasercut steel plates on the end flanges of the motor, and distance bushings at the left side for chain clearance. The plates along with motor will form new lower part of the frame, so, the motor will be load bearing part.
 
Designing and testing the motor brackets.
I'm using a laser cutter to make cardboard mockups first. After 3-rd iteration the motor plates fit perfectly so it's time to proceed to real parts. 3mm steel plates.
Did first version of the battery box as well, 2mm aluminium case with 1mm separator plates between the lipo packs.
Probably there will be long pcb-s on top of those 4 stripes to connect the plugs and also I had this idea of incorporating Dallas 1-wire temperature sensors for each battery.
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