Thread for new battery breakthrough PR releases

I would like to see the size of the charger for a phone that could charge in 10 mins with enough juice to last a week!

Stories like this come out all the time, I just ignore them now. What will grab my attention is when someone announces lithium battery with 10x storage available now!

I'm sure we are at least 5 years away from 2x the range form our bikes, still would be nice!

The leaf II is supposed tom have twice the range and that's in 2015, that's if of course they don't scrap the leaf as they are not selling wellmat all, and not nearly like they thought, shame really!

Maybe the 30,000 price tag doesn't help!
 
this news was out 2 weeks ago, it is a lithium AIR battery...

they are just saying that they have a new method for making graphene cathodes by making them very irregular and puffed up abit like pop corn...

read the details here

http://www.nanowerk.com/spotlight/spotid=23258.php

until they make some factories using one of these tech's we are frocked! nissan claims to have devided the fuel cell platinum and materials cost by 80 percent recently which means 1000 dollars for a fuel cell that is 5 x the KWH per kilo of lipo.
 
dnmun said:
there are no sheets of silicon. that is not even a credible discussion and nothing is going on like that in li ion chemistry. totally fabricated imo.
From the source article "The speed of recharging becomes less if these ions cannot quickly go from layer to layer."

You appear to be right, dnmun.
 
damm.. i was going to post this article here.. i just saw it on fb but someone beat me to it 2 days ago..

here is the bbc link anyway, same story as above

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15735478
 
http://www.battery-materials.cn/
About Us
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We focus on r&d, manufacturing and sales of new materials (anode, cathode, electrolyte, additive etc.) for lithium battery. We offer full set of materials solution to customers and our aim is to be the leader in the lithium battery materials field in world.
Our preponderant products are Lithium Iron Phosphate(LiFePO4),Lithium Manganese Dioxide(LiMn2O4) ,Lithium Cobalt Oxide(LiCoO2), Lithium Nickel Manganese Cobalt Oxide(LiNiMnCoO2) ,Lithium Titanate Oxide(LTO) materials ;graphite materials (MCMB) and separator for new power lithium ion batteries.
And meanwhile, we have our own E-Battey lithium ion battery factory, main produce lithium ion battery for camera, mobile, EV application; and can offer full set of production line for lithium ion battery, and offer full set technology and All materials for customer production need;

Amazing selection of chemical components and parts for Li cell assembly plus assembly and test equipment from roll-yer-own lab quantities to volume production.

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http://www.torquenews.com/1075/poly...list-lithium-batteries-500-mile-electric-cars
PolyPlus named Edison Awards finalist on lithium batteries for 500+ mile electric cars

By David Herron on Thu, 02/16/2012 - 18:11
for Torque News

The PolyPlus technology enables lithium-metal-air or lithium-metal-water based batteries with a game-changing jump in energy density over todays lithium-ion batteries, and could bring us to the nirvana of 500 mile range electric cars.

Supposedly the achilles heel of electric cars is the range, and even though electric car owners know range anxiety disappears after a week of ownership, having a longer electric driving range would be handy. Tesla Motors repeatedly proves that a long range electric car is simply a matter of squeezing enough kilowatt-hours of storage onto the car, and then being able to charge a high enough price for the car to pay for the battery pack. Berkeley CA based PolyPlus is developing lithium-air and lithium-water battery technology to make it more practically possible to carry enough kilowatt-hours on-board a car to go 500 miles or more on a charge.

Today PolyPlus announced they'd been selected as a finalist in the Power Generation/Utilization category of the 2012 Edison Best New Product Awards. The awards are named after famed inventor, Thomas Alva Edison. Among Edison's own inventions was a nickel-iron battery that was to be sold in electric cars manufactured by Ford, if it weren't for a mysterious fire that destroyed the Edison factory complex.

Lithium is a highly reactive metal which is known to do catastrophic things when exposed to air or water. Lithium is not found in nature as a pure metal, but always bound to other chemicals. Lithium Ion battery chemistries are a way of binding lithium to other chemicals in a battery for safety (and other) purposes, but this comes at the cost of an energy density much lower than the theoretical maximums. The PolyPlus technology for lithium-air and lithium-water creates the same safety, while maintaining a very high energy density.

Energy density is the amount of energy (watt-hours) per kilogram of battery weight. Typical lithium-ion batteries used in cars today have energy densities in the 150-250 watt-hours per kilogram range. The PolyPlus lithium-water battery has achieved the highest recorded energy density of 1,300 Watt-hours/kilogram, or an almost 10x improvement over current lithium-ion batteries.

To put this into perspective, the Nissan Leaf has a 24 kilowatt-hour battery pack for a nearly 100 mile range. It's battery pack will weigh in the neighborhood of 96-160 kilograms. Using the 1300 watt-hours/kg energy density PolyPlus reports, storing the same energy storage would weigh 19 kilograms, and a 96 kilogram battery pack would carry 125 kilowatt-hours of energy storage, for 5x the energy carried on todays Nissan Leaf, which should offer a nearly 500 mile range.

PolyPlus is currently testing samples of its lithium-water battery and expects the product to be commercially available in 2013.

On the company's website, PolyPlus says that lithium-air batteries have a theoretical energy density of 10,000 watt-hours/kilogram, an energy density that's capable of powering an electric car for a full cross-country trip. Or, more practically, would improve the feasibility of electric big trucks and the like. But achieving anything close to this theoretical density is a ways off in the future. PolyPlus projects the energy density for commercial lithium-air batteries to be 1000 watt-hours per kilogram.

The breakthrough technology is what PolyPlus calls a "protected lithium electrode" (PLE), that remain stable in a broad range of electrolyte solutions. The PLE technology encapsulates lithium metal sealed in a a solid electrolyte. The electrolyte is conductive to lithium ions, but impervious to liquids and gasses, keeping the water or air from touching the lithium.

In the near term PolyPlus says they'll first commercialize non-rechargeable lithium-air and lithium-water batteries, then work on commercializing rechargeable batteries later.

We should note that fast charging of a 125 kilowatt-hour battery pack will require enormous electrical supplies.

Winners of the Gold, Silver and Bronze Edison Awards will be announced April 26, 2012 at the Capitale ballroom in New York City. The awards program occurs over a period of two days and includes a "Meet the Innovators Forum" and an "Innovator's Showcase".

Latest PolyPlus US patent app filed September 19, 2011 here:
http://www.google.com/patents/US20120009469?dq=inassignee:PolyPlus&ei=ColFT8N1wrTQAdCf-OkD

Can't pretend to understand this stuff, but the pictures are pretty...
:D

LocK
 
http://www.ted.com/talks/donald_sadoway_the_missing_link_to_renewable_energy.html?utm_source=newsletter_weekly_2012-03-28&utm_campaign=newsletter_weekly&utm_medium=email

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From Dr. Sadoway "Our cost target is $1000/kW or $250/kWh."
 
Cool stuff, looking forward to the day it gets put on the grid and available to be used for personal energy storage.
 
http://www.xgsciences.com/
XG Sciences manufactures and sells xGnP® brand graphene nanoplatelets and also develops advanced multifunctional materials based on our nanoplatelets. We work with end-users, compounders, universities and research groups to tailor our materials for specific applications.

Recent PR
http://www.xgsciences.com/docs/AFRL Selects XGS to Develop High-Energy Ultracapacitors.pdf
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
Contact: Rob Privette, VP Energy Markets XG Sciences, Inc. phone: (517) 703-1110 fax: (517) 703-1113 r.privette@xgsciences.com www.xgsciences.com

Air Force Research Laboratory Selects XG Sciences to Develop High-Energy Ultracapacitors
Lansing, Michigan, March 6, 2012 — XG Sciences, Inc. announced today it has been selected by the Air Force Research Laboratory to develop ultrahigh-energy ultracapacitors for use in space energy storage systems. XGSs’ graphene-based energy storage materials have demonstrated significant increases in storage capacity over traditional activated carbon and are manufactured in a commercially-proven, environmentally friendly, low-cost process.

“Our Air Force contract will target development of ultracapacitors capable of delivering the high specific energy necessary for advanced space applications,” said Rob Privette, VP Energy Markets. “Our graphene-based energy storage materials deliver significant improvements over traditional carbon charge storage materials due to their highly accessible surface area, low-resistance current carrying capability, and tailorable particle size. We believe that this research will also help advance the state-of-the-art in ultracapacitors for automotive and industrial applications.” The project is supported by the Air Force Research Laboratory under Contract No. FA9453-12-M-0032.

XG Sciences’ graphene nanoplatelets can be formulated into electrodes, inks, and pastes for fabrication of electrodes with high charge storage and superior current carrying characteristics for ultracapacitors, batteries, and fuel cells. XG Sciences Inc. is a leading supplier of xGnP ® graphene nanoplatelets, as well as energy storage electrode materials, electrically and thermally conductive inks, powders and dispersions, and high strength additives for lightweight composites. With international licensees including POSCO and Cabot Corporation, and a worldwide distributor organization, XG Sciences offers bulk materials or custom graphene-based products to nearly 500 customers around the world. For evaluation materials and technical support please visit www.xgsciences.com or contact info@xgsciences.com.
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.....and just getting the popcorn ready and waiting for Of Course!, Pilot, Walter or Only in America to post up with their collective wisdom on battery technology (did the little grey men give us a hint about graphene as well?) :D
 
agniusm said:
Badass indeed. Charging at 1200C??? Looks like game changing plan :)
Heheh, yup, that was the one that caught my eye. :D

Granted, as far as recharging a vehicle goes, once you pass ~300-400C, it's kinda meaningless, especially considering the stupidly high current levels you would have to be able to pass to do 1200C charging of a large pack...but still, if they're capable of 1200C charging, they should be able to handle a few hundred C just fine. :mrgreen:

Exciting stuff, this.
 
x88x said:
as far as recharging a vehicle goes, once you pass ~300-400C, it's kinda meaningless,
Exciting stuff, this.

not really, whilst "normal" recharging would be impractical at those levels, in dynamic regen situations it could be very useful where you can generate huge currents for a few seconds, but currently need an oversize battery to accept even a fraction of the potential energy.
 
texaspyro said:
Care to bet when you'll see this in real life?

I'll guess between ten and 20 years.

Graphene is the new plastic polymer to the material science world, the new silicon to the computer industry, the new method of preservation to the food sector, the new carbon fibre to the manufacturing industry and the offers the ability to increase the speed of electric communications more than three times faster than the speed of light in a vacuum.

It is the wonder substance's wonder substance. :mrgreen:
 
Hillhater said:
x88x said:
as far as recharging a vehicle goes, once you pass ~300-400C, it's kinda meaningless,
Exciting stuff, this.

not really, whilst "normal" recharging would be impractical at those levels, in dynamic regen situations it could be very useful where you can generate huge currents for a few seconds, but currently need an oversize battery to accept even a fraction of the potential energy.

A tiny 1kw-hr pack on a bicycle that can accept 300C charging would require your controller/motor/tire traction combo to support >400hp rate of braking energy absorption... If you had some impossible tire/motor/controller/wiring that could handle that, it would be slowing a 300lbs ebike+rider combo from 60mph to 0mph in an eyeball ejecting 0.6seconds....

If you had an LEV like the Leaf with a 24kwhr pack, you would need a motor/controller/tire/axles/wiring combo able to handle >12,864hp of braking energy.

Likewise, 300C charge means full empty to full charged in 12 seconds. That would be fast enough to satisfy an F1 pitstop from the days when they permitted refueling.

I fully agree that if you have 300C charge ability, it becomes no more valuable to have infinity-C charge rates.
 
Indeed. Electrical conductivity used to be limited to metals and graphite. With the advent of modern polymer technology, we can push it a bit further. Anthracene is a fantastic electron carrier. If polymerised you might have a very good conductor which can reduce the amount of anode or cathode material required, thus reducing the weight of a cell.
 
another USA company bought out by the Chinese....
They already have a huge cylindrical hollow LTO battery made for buses
its hollow for cooling and it does appear to be a Chinese innovation
60wh/kg 30000cycle life
charges as fast as you want
 
The problem with (real) graphene is that it is a single layer of atoms. Care to bet how well that would hold up in the real world?
 
I see Yintong have updated their English-language pages and the specs for their 20Ah LTO pouches...
http://en.yintonggroup.com/energy_p...tId=f4b439d2-351a-4c9f-bb45-201609ae1169.html
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Yintong_20Ah.jpg


...a year ago they only had specs on their Chinese-language pages...


Newest high/low temp ratings are amusing... 印刷上的错误!
 
auraslip said:
Even low c lifepo4 can accept huge bursts of power safely.

Shane Colton charged some A123 M1 cells at like 100C (or was it 100A?)... there is video out there. They got warm but did not seem to mind it too bad.
 
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