eBike Thermal Fuses

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I am looking for advice on thermal fuses. I have a Claude Butler Glide 1 with a XH259-10J Battery. The battery has good charge and indeed starts to work on the bike for a couple of seconds then the entire supply cuts out and I have to stop get off the bike, switch the battery off then on again and it then works fine until I get going and the same happens all over again.

Now I am wondering if this could be the BR M70C NC Thermal Fuse which checks out fine for continuity on the bench, but when you pass a certain amount of current through it it fails.

Do thermal fuses degrade in this way?

It surely can’t be heat as the batteries could not get up to 70 degrees in a matter of seconds could they?

They are old batteries with 1-2 showing signs of swelling but as I said they hold charge and voltage (29V).
 
Swelling is NOT GOOD!!! a swollen cell (lipo?) will probably charge/discharge out of step with 'healthy cells in parallel leading to the groups early demise.. and could be the root of the issue?

Also similar symptoms can be the result of dirty or bad battery/sled connections especially idf the battery was plugged in/out when turned on in error. (or has no on/off switch..) wire wool cleaning and re-bending into shape any sprung connectors may resolve the issue?

Still dont like the sound of swollen cells tho perhaps post a pic or 2 so those in the know can comment with authority (not me)
 
The battery has good charge and indeed starts to work on the bike for a couple of seconds then the entire supply cuts out and I have to stop get off the bike, switch the battery off then on again and it then works fine until I get going and the same happens all over again.

They are old batteries with 1-2 showing signs of swelling but as I said they hold charge and voltage (29V).
Sounds like the BMS is doing its best to shutdown the battery to avoid catastrophic failure and fire, while you are ignoring the obvious signs.
Safely dispose of the battery.
 
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In my opinion, it's an old battery that's sagging on voltage under load. When you try to use it, safety circuits in either the bike or battery sense a voltage drop and shut the bike down. When the load is removed., the battery recovers enough to start again, but dies immediately underload again. Both the bike controller and the battery BMS have low voltage detection circuits for this purpose.

The bike/battery sound like they are from 2010? It's time to replace the battery. They still sell 24V packs for a rack mount. It shouldn't be very complicated to replace the whole battery and cradle. If you're lucky. maybe you can even find the same battery for the old cradle, but I doubt it. You do have to compare the costs to replace the entire bike vs replacing the battery,

By the way, "XH259-10J Battery" brings up a number of different battery voltages and case styles. I assumed from looking at pix of Glide 1's that it's a 24V rear rack battery,
 
Update: Thank you everyone for your comments.

Here is a pic of the swollen cells which I know are not good and also the new BMS that I tried but still got the same effect.

So it appears that these old battery are sagging on voltage under load despite charging and showing a full 29V under no load.

I did see a replacement 18650 pack on AliExpress but this is unfortunately not available in the UK so I am starting to build my first 7s4p pack – wish me luck!
 

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