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dermot
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I'm not convinced of the real utility of having a built-in storage/charging compartment for a pair of Segways.
I'd far prefer a couple of folding e-bikes.
I'm not convinced of the real utility of having a built-in storage/charging compartment for a pair of Segways.
I'd far prefer a couple of folding e-bikes.
knightmb
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Xase said:
I don't, but not because they are big and evil. I don't trust them because they have too many interest in the company that would love to see it fail. I don't think the cash cow of crude oil is going to run out in my lifetime, but when company has it's bottom line threated, they resort to more perversive tactics to ensure things go the way they want along with good PR to make them look good.
I equate it to the local dairy farmer telling all the markets there is a milk shortage and that the soy milk substitute causes cancer if you drink it. It scares everyone away from alternatives to ensure your customers remain loyal. Just like GM would tell everyone that the electric car sucked if you tried to buy one, but those that owned (or leased since they wouldn't let you buy it) absolutely loved them.
I tried to buy an EV1 long ago, it was a brick wall trying to get one.
mvadventure
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CBS (communist broadcasting system) aired a segment a couple of weeks ago on "Sunday Morning" that featured the head honcho at GM and featured quite a bit of the Chevy Volt. It is to be sold in the thirty thousand dollar range and the current electric mileage only range is 40 miles.
According to the segment GM is either doing a lot of the battery research themselves or farming it out to independents, probably I would expect with licensing rights. I've seen several similar type programs recently and it's hard to remember one from the other but it could very well be the gasoline motor in the Chevy volt merely drives a generator to charge the batteries.
From the outside the car appears as any other with a little Chrysler type styling, inside it is absolutely normal except for a few buttons on the dash.
Even if it never comes to production the battery research will prove invaluable but GM has so much invested already they about have to get it to market.
Mike
According to the segment GM is either doing a lot of the battery research themselves or farming it out to independents, probably I would expect with licensing rights. I've seen several similar type programs recently and it's hard to remember one from the other but it could very well be the gasoline motor in the Chevy volt merely drives a generator to charge the batteries.
From the outside the car appears as any other with a little Chrysler type styling, inside it is absolutely normal except for a few buttons on the dash.
Even if it never comes to production the battery research will prove invaluable but GM has so much invested already they about have to get it to market.
Mike
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I believe GM have a deal with A123 for batteries for the Volt.
I expect them to bring it to market - as it seems that they need to fill a hole in their marketing strategy. They certainly aren't doing it because they give a damn about the environment or anything else.
If BEVs are to make serious inroads into the gas automobile market then it will more than likely come from a third party. The auto giants have already shown that as soon as legislative or public opinion shifts they will drop EVs at whatever the cost (in the late 90's there were over a dozen EVs in development).
PHEVs are an interesting conundrum. On the one hand they have an ICE so that keeps the car companies happy (they are interested in extending the life of ICE as long as possible for several reasons). On the other hand they are more "dangerous" because more research will go into the "EV only" part of the equation which in turn makes a BEV more feasible.
At the end of the day we need some friendly billionaire to fully fund a BEV company and start a new era of transportation. I even asked Bill Gates, Warren Buffet and Bill Ford to contact me: http://visforvoltage.org/blog/jdh2550-1/1832
Alas they didn't respond...
I expect them to bring it to market - as it seems that they need to fill a hole in their marketing strategy. They certainly aren't doing it because they give a damn about the environment or anything else.
If BEVs are to make serious inroads into the gas automobile market then it will more than likely come from a third party. The auto giants have already shown that as soon as legislative or public opinion shifts they will drop EVs at whatever the cost (in the late 90's there were over a dozen EVs in development).
PHEVs are an interesting conundrum. On the one hand they have an ICE so that keeps the car companies happy (they are interested in extending the life of ICE as long as possible for several reasons). On the other hand they are more "dangerous" because more research will go into the "EV only" part of the equation which in turn makes a BEV more feasible.
At the end of the day we need some friendly billionaire to fully fund a BEV company and start a new era of transportation. I even asked Bill Gates, Warren Buffet and Bill Ford to contact me: http://visforvoltage.org/blog/jdh2550-1/1832
Alas they didn't respond...
iberkt
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Sorry to revive such an old post but I was web surfing and I came across this article
http://www.nydailynews.com/services/autos/2008/01/15/2008-01-15_green_light_for_chevys_electric_car.html
It would be nice if they actually product this car for the public. The stats are pretty impressive.
"The Volt is capable of traveling up to 640 miles without a fuel fillup or a battery recharge"
Wow, wouldn't that be nice!
http://www.nydailynews.com/services/autos/2008/01/15/2008-01-15_green_light_for_chevys_electric_car.html
It would be nice if they actually product this car for the public. The stats are pretty impressive.
"The Volt is capable of traveling up to 640 miles without a fuel fillup or a battery recharge"
Wow, wouldn't that be nice!
Almost everyone I see commuting is a single driver. What people should consider is lugging less car to work with them. In Canada we've had the Smart Car for a number of years, and you see them everywhere in Vancouver. I'm interested to see how they sell in the US for under $12k.
Metro/Firefly/Swift/Sprint drivers have been enjoying 55mpg economy since the 80's.
http://www.gassavers.org/garage/viewgaslog/121
As for the Volt, "Chevy Volt Designers: Shape, Not Weight, Is More Important"
http://www.autoobserver.com/2007/12/chevy-volt-desi.html
Just what we need, another bloated pig on the road, courtesy of the General.
Metro/Firefly/Swift/Sprint drivers have been enjoying 55mpg economy since the 80's.
http://www.gassavers.org/garage/viewgaslog/121
As for the Volt, "Chevy Volt Designers: Shape, Not Weight, Is More Important"
http://www.autoobserver.com/2007/12/chevy-volt-desi.html
Just what we need, another bloated pig on the road, courtesy of the General.
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