Aussie 200 Watt Limit Thread

I've used a compu trainer before, works ok.

It's easy enough to have something like that with a micro and 16x2 LCD for an easy pass fail test.

No civilian is getting that contract, the biggest element is calibration and continual validation of results.

You have to remember this is just like a speed camera.

But on the whole, none care we exist.

It be nice to keep it so, so everyone behave.

To give you an idea what an average indecent looks like.
You ran a red and weren't pedalling, $1000 of fines for that moped thing.
Goes to court, gets unregistered chargers dropped still has red-light fine.
All of which could have been avoided by not acting like a tard.

But more often than not people just cough up because of the financial costs of legal council, the real issue is not following the existing bike laws and being flagged.
 
What really gets me about how much power a motor assisted bike is it all comes down to how it gets applied, cars and motor bikes don't have a power limit law so its up to the operator how it gets used, ie speeding, they used to have a limit in capacity in motor bikes 250cc or less for first time license holders and then more powerful 250's became available and I think something similar for first time car drivers is in place, so unless we do something real silly and get caught we should be ok, I know its hard but just save that power for offroad or safe to do so areas.
 
Be ace to see my bike output on the go, see it's in the green zone when i want to get max travel.
 
t3sla said:
It be nice to keep it so, so everyone behave.
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Has been my view all along. With the weight of legislation on us now, I'd say almost nobody has followed the law to the letter consistently, but if we at least respect the law, and give lip service to it, we're unlikely to bring the full force of the law down on us. That means discouraging drunk drivers from using electric bikes as electric motorcycles, not going 60km/h on shared paths, or zipping at 80km/h through suburban (50km/h limited) streets. Or really - just using common sense.
 
Sunder said:
t3sla said:
It be nice to keep it so, so everyone behave.
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Has been my view all along. With the weight of legislation on us now, I'd say almost nobody has followed the law to the letter consistently, but if we at least respect the law, and give lip service to it, we're unlikely to bring the full force of the law down on us. That means discouraging drunk drivers from using electric bikes as electric motorcycles, not going 60km/h on shared paths, or zipping at 80km/h through suburban (50km/h limited) streets. Or really - just using common sense.
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100% agreed. I hope we can all not be a hindrance , so we dont attract negative attention.
 
It is interesting that cops right now either don't know, or don't care. I was in fact pulled over twice this year, with no consequences. Only one cop asked if it was electric and she didn't ask further questions. It was about 1 AM, I was wearing a full face dirt-bike helmet (in the rain) and had went through an amber light fairly late, I think they suspected I had lost my license or something. No citations or anything.

The other one was when I was riding at night and my cheap Cateye rear light had fallen off on the way home (received a formal warning).

As you guys say, as long as we are well behaved, we should have no problems. I just hope there are no fatalities of cyclists on electric bikes travelling >50 km/h.
 
Architectonic said:
As you guys say, as long as we are well behaved, we should have no problems. I just hope there are no fatalities of cyclists on electric bikes travelling >50 km/h.
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Someone pulling a darwin award isn't the biggest issue, it's someone killing someone else who is just an innocent bystander.

I've seen the odd stealth in the CBD, but the day one of them collects a kid....... :cry:

All in all it be great if we didn't detract police resources from doing something constructive, the budget is already tight enough without task-force Hyena :mrgreen:
 
Sunder said:
The 11T was bought from ebikes.ca. They were a bit more expensive than a lot of the other places, but I knew it was a place I could trust.
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Would you believe that I asked about the 11T on Monday the 17th, got an answer that night, ordered it Tuesday the 18th, and it arrived Friday the 21st?

Now that's service.
 
I'm already a part of TASKFORCE HYENA!

It's got nothing to do with over powered e bikes though!!!!! :lol: :lol:
 
Just read this thread again after i last posted.......... Trust me do not worry about this piece of legislation. As others have said, it would take 100 minor incidents in one week by ebikers or a death or 2 before police are directed to act on this "Flawed" law.

If you have been fined/had your bike siezed for testing, you must have been acting like a tosser and probably deserve it!!

I know what im talking about! 8)
 
Sirbevalot said:
Just read this thread again after i last posted.......... Trust me do not worry about this piece of legislation. As others have said, it would take 100 minor incidents in one week by ebikers or a death or 2 before police are directed to act on this "Flawed" law.

If you have been fined/had your bike siezed for testing, you must have been acting like a tosser and probably deserve it!!

I know what im talking about! 8)
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Sirbev, are you a D?
 
pendragon8000 said:
Sirbev, are you a D?
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Sirbevalot said:
It is an offence in South Australia to ride a bicycle whilst under the influence of alcohol or drugs. You can't be charged with P.C.A just D.U.I. I can assist you with any questions re Police laws 8) :D . I can honestly tell you that police aren't interested in E bikes. Just don't do anything stupid (dangerous) and we will leave u alone. the 250 watt laws are flawed anyway. Long story short most police dont understand electronics and if u wer ever quizzed, a polite white lie about your e bikes power output would get you off. Even if a police officer wanted to report you for drive unlicenced, unreg etc he needs to prove your bikes power output. It would get thrown out by prosecution.

If you guys have any more questions feel free to ask..... :D
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I think so
 
I think if it looks like your riding, then you'll draw so much less attention to yourself. Even with my "250w" I like to

Since i'm riding around in a chopper bicycle, I do try and keep the attention as low as possible. In this way I try and pedal and don't exceed a speed that would be "possible". Considering my bike weighs about 30 odd kg (if not more), without motor assistance its nearly impossible to pedal on my own especially with a single speed setup.

I'm still working this out, but since it was warm lately (especially on a recent 37 degree day) i've been able to do 40km an hour with no pedalling, yet in the morning I only manage 35-36km.
 
chopper_elec said:
I'm still working this out, but since it was warm lately (especially on a recent 37 degree day) i've been able to do 40km an hour with no pedalling, yet in the morning I only manage 35-36km.
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Wind can make a big difference...
 
Had a few 40degC days over here chop chop.
Would take the bike out with all that extra free juice, but think my tyres would melt and slow me down.
 
Speaking of high temperatures, today is set to be a scorcher round most of the country, supposedly 45oC here here in Sydney!
A warning to everyone with even moderately powered rides - go easy on the throttle or you risk cooking your motor and/or controller.
Apart from being uncomfortable riding in such heat (doing 50km/hr in 40+ degree temps feels like someone has a hair dryer blasting you in the face!) your components heat up much more than normal.
Last time we had a 42oC day my controller (that normal runs barely warm to the touch) burnt my hand when I touched it and the motor was over 100oC - and this was with the power turned down to half of what I normally run. Even the bike frame was hot from the ambient temp, electrical tape was coming unstuck, etc.
 
Hyena said:
Speaking of high temperatures, today is set to be a scorcher round most of the country, supposedly 45oC here here in Sydney!
A warning to everyone with even moderately powered rides - go easy on the throttle or you risk cooking your motor and/or controller.
Apart from being uncomfortable riding in such heat (doing 50km/hr in 40+ degree temps feels like someone has a hair dryer blasting you in the face!) your components heat up much more than normal.
Last time we had a 42oC day my controller (that normal runs barely warm to the touch) burnt my hand when I touched it and the motor was over 100oC - and this was with the power turned down to half of what I normally run. Even the bike frame was hot from the ambient temp, electrical tape was coming unstuck, etc.
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I can second that.

Yesterday it was 41 c and my motor and controller were hot to touch. :shock: :shock:
 
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strayah 8)
 
Doing Solar jobs and aircon is nice this time of year toastie.
Talkin about toastie bush is on fire. NSW & Tassy :(
 
Sirbevalot said:
If you have been fined/had your bike siezed for testing, you must have been acting like a tosser and probably deserve it!!
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Exactly!!!

I ride my DH comp 18s3p into the heart of the Sydney CBD daily in my work clothes. Actually I just clocked 5000kms and that's all from my commute to work. I barely go 40kms most of the time avg 25-35kms. I pass cops all the time but I'm always on the pedals. If I'm going up a hill I drop my speed accordingly. I've even ride past the cops on the pymont bridge. Somtimes I even get passed by some hardcore lycra's :oops: I dont mind I just stay on their tail :mrgreen:
 
Duc998 said:
Sirbevalot said:
If you have been fined/had your bike siezed for testing, you must have been acting like a tosser and probably deserve it!!
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Exactly!!!

I ride my DH comp 18s3p into the heart of the Sydney CBD daily in my work clothes. Actually I just clocked 5000kms and that's all from my commute to work. I barely go 40kms most of the time avg 25-35kms. I pass cops all the time but I'm always on the pedals. If I'm going up a hill I drop my speed accordingly. I've even ride past the cops on the pymont bridge. Somtimes I even get passed by some hardcore lycra's :oops: I dont mind I just stay on their tail :mrgreen:
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Wonder how many times we've passed each other and not known. I rode for slightly over a year in the Sydney CBD. Saw a lot of eBikers, but mostly pre-builts and small motors. My office moved to North Ryde now though, which cut my ride down by more than 50%.
 
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