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Axial Flux Starter Generator

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I'm sorry if this offends some people on this channel, but I am developing a new kind of internal combustion engine (Avadi engines), and am working to integrate a starter generator system. The issue is that due to our unique crank architecture, the output shaft RPM is 1/2 speed of a normal engine. This application would be for a hybrid powered drone. I am having trouble locating any smaller scale AF motors that would be in the neighborhood of performance needs. I really don't want to develop one if there is something available already. As I am focused primarily on engines, perhaps there is a better way to do this than an AF. Open to changing course.

specs:
Motor Type: Axial flux permanent magnet synchronous motor (PMSM) or brushless DC motor (BLDC), coreless design preferred to reduce cogging torque and improve efficiency.
  • Power Rating: Continuous 5-15 kW (peak up to 20 kW if needed for bursts).
  • Voltage: Nominal 48V DC (options for 72V or 96V if higher power is required; confirm compatibility with battery/electronics).
  • RPM Optimization: Base speed 1000-2000 RPM (for maximum torque); efficient operation up to 3500-4000 RPM peak. Please adjust from low-RPM base models via custom windings/pole count.
  • Torque Requirements: Peak torque 50-200 Nm for cranking/starting (to overcome engine compression at 0-500 RPM); continuous torque 20-50 Nm for regeneration/assist.
  • Efficiency: >90% across operating range, especially in generator mode for energy recovery.
  • Dual-Mode Functionality: Bidirectional operation—motor mode for starting, generator mode for regeneration. Please recommend a compatible bidirectional controller/inverter.
  • Dimensions and Mounting: Compact disc-shaped design (e.g., diameter <200mm, axial length <100mm) for direct output shaft mounting. Provide shaft details: e.g., shaft diameter (measure yours, say 20-30mm), spline/keyway type, and any flange/mounting hole patterns.
  • Cooling: Air-cooled with fins (to match engine aesthetics) or liquid-cooled for high-duty cycle.
  • Other Features: IP54 or higher protection rating; low noise/vibration; aluminum housing for lightweight; CE/ISO certification if possible.
  • Quantity and Timeline: Prototype quantity 1-5 units; customization lead time target 2-4 weeks.
 
I think it is exactly the purpose of axial flux motors developed by Launchpoint with money from DARPA
 
Amazing. Just got off the phone with them based on your recommendation. Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!
Sounds like we might have something in the next 16 or so weeks.
 
Great I hope you will be able to disclose the price of their TORUS, I am afraid it might be the price we can expect for high tech stuff for military applications

Best of luke for your project.
Cherrs
 
My guess is you will be correct about it being expensive. However, I have been unable to find anything suitable elsewhere so it is what it is.
 
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