[Bafang] Steep hills with mid-drive motors?

[amberwolf]

That's mine, but I've learnt to slide my hand well over it and use the base of the thumb, where it joins the hand. Still not ideal but better than getting an aching thumb joint after 15 minutes. It's all a tradeoff, a bicycle under human power is light and never goes very fast anyway but these scoot along and are heavy. All that extra weight having a negative effect on braking and handling that you have to adjust to as well. I just use mine at the moment for long night runs out in the countryside, not having to pedal lets me enjoy the ride in a completely different way. I may try the throttle again, one day, but I'll get the proper half length one next time. I cheaped out, a mistake!

mine is a cargo- grocery- and st bernard- hauling trike, so heavy and not quick or fast just goes with the territory. handles well though, good braking, control, etc.

from last year i think



old pic from like 2020 before i switched to the lighter better ultramotors off old a2b metro bikes you can see on the rear in the above pic


the current available passenger

Are you using clipless pedals?

mine are just regular pedals; i think they came off old tidalforce bikes. they have little pegs poking up to keep your shoe tread from slipping on them. the relfectors slide in from the inbaord side, and that can actually cause problems because sometimes they vibrate loose and start working their way out, and they can catch on the cranks. i broke at least two of the reflectors off that way.

Hope you are having a good xmass day there

not too bad atm but soon the assholes with the giant mortar round "fireworks" that shake the house and rattle windows and the earthquake level bass will wake up from their party comas from last night thru this morning and start their shit again. they are one of the reasons i have learned to hate the whole holidaze season, as there is no escape from them anywhere you go. by newyears eve it will be like a literal warzone with obscenely loud explosions everywhere (not simple firecrackers, but hundreds of mortar rounds an hour by nye itself, and hundreds or thousands of rocket types with screamers and whistlers and bangs).

 

[OlderGiantFan]

Same mirror (as on my TSDZ2) mounted outboard on the grip of my iscooter i12. Wooden broom stick extension needed since the grip is too short and too fat.

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I bought one of those mirrors with the rubber strap a couple of months ago, they were cheap enough. I have lots of different mirrors here, the ones that attach to he helmet too. I could probably buy a new bike with all the money I've spent but things like mirrors and lights are important to me so I stock up. Love the broomstick, whatever works hey.

 

[n00b]

Uh yeah, I go a little bit and twist the throttle.
For hills? Use lower gears. A mid-drive like BBS02 will climb them, no problem.
What's that? You want a BBS02 controller programmer mathingy that hooks up to a computer?
You can have one for not much but the cost of shipping.
I'm not worrying about spoke speed sensors stopping my ride. No.
Have you seen this?

Sully's BBSHD Programming (for people that like pedaling) | Jon Sully

How to program a Bafang BBSHD to ride WITH the motor!

jonsully.net

In other news, I know when I need to pedal.

 

[OlderGiantFan]

mine is a cargo- grocery- and st bernard- hauling trike, so heavy and not quick or fast just goes with the territory. handles well though, good braking, control, etc.

from last year i think
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old pic from like 2020 before i switched to the lighter better ultramotors off old a2b metro bikes you can see on the rear in the above pic
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the current available passenger
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mine are just regular pedals; i think they came off old tidalforce bikes. they have little pegs poking up to keep your shoe tread from slipping on them. the relfectors slide in from the inbaord side, and that can actually cause problems because sometimes they vibrate loose and start working their way out, and they can catch on the cranks. i broke at least two of the reflectors off that way.
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not too bad atm but soon the assholes with the giant mortar round "fireworks" that shake the house and rattle windows and the earthquake level bass will wake up from their party comas from last night thru this morning and start their shit again. they are one of the reasons i have learned to hate the whole holidaze season, as there is no escape from them anywhere you go. by newyears eve it will be like a literal warzone with obscenely loud explosions everywhere (not simple firecrackers, but hundreds of mortar rounds an hour by nye itself, and hundreds or thousands of rocket types with screamers and whistlers and bangs).

Ok, so we wont mention xmass
I live in a quiet rural town, moved out here from the city 6 years ago and have never looked back, literally. So you use flat pedals, most here seem to. I tried the clipless Shimano SPD system I run on my other bikes but I couldn't get my head around it. Oh I can clipout fast enough, but it's much simpler and easier to use flat ones when you don't need to to be putting a lot of power into the cranks with your legs. The only downside is you have to be careful not to take the bad habit back to the motorless bikes.

I use these ones on the roadbikes.



Not these ones. With both you need special shoes of course.



This is what I mean by roadbike. The Giant Toughroad.

The racer = roadbike = Roadie meme is simply a marketing brand designed to increase sales of expensive bikes. I remember when it came in, and the number of women that took up cycling after the switch was amazing. Turns out women don't mind riding on the road, on a road bike, but they don't want to go 'racing' around fast



They have discontinued these bikes now, turned them into dropbar fashion statements and increased the price naturally. The Giant Revolt Gravel bike, a narrow width dropbar racer with narrow wheels for gravel roads? Yeah like if. They went from 50mm wide tires down to 40mm.

Here's the marketing imagery, because you can't ride gravel unless you're wearing $800 worth of signature Lycra and a $400 pair of sunglasses



If that road was any smoother it would be glass! They probably put a roller over just for the ad.
Here what a "good" gravel road typically looks like



I know I seem a little down on the "racer" set, but I like chocolate and got tired of all the Vegans telling me I should be carrying nuts and fruit for energy instead. Plus I knew a girl, a young mother, who went under the rear wheels of a semi-truck while out riding with the "group". Her wheel deflected off a small rock on the road. She should never have been flying along that road with those trucks passing close by, but what hope did she have stuck in a pack of Strava maniacs? She couldn't practically go off into the grass like on a fat tire bike either. And the steering on them is so twitchy it doesn't take much to deflect a wheel. RIP Susan.

 

[n00b]

Ok, so we wont mention xmass
I live in a quiet rural town, moved out here from the city 6 years ago and have never looked back, literally. So you use flat pedals, most here seem to. I tried the clipless Shimano SPD system I run on my other bikes but I couldn't get my head around it. Oh I can clipout fast enough, but it's much simpler and easier to use flat ones when you don't need to to be putting a lot of power into the cranks with your legs. The only downside is you have to be careful not to take the bad habit back to the motorless bikes.

I use these ones on the roadbikes.

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Not these ones. With both you need special shoes of course.

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This is what I mean by roadbike. The Giant Toughroad.

The racer = roadbike = Roadie meme is simply a marketing brand designed to increase sales of expensive bikes. I remember when it came in, and the number of women that took up cycling after the switch was amazing. Turns out women don't mind riding on the road, on a road bike, but they don't want to go 'racing' around fast

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They have discontinued these bikes now, turned them into dropbar fashion statements and increased the price naturally. The Giant Revolt Gravel bike, a narrow width dropbar racer with narrow wheels for gravel roads? Yeah like if. They went from 50mm wide tires down to 40mm.

Here's the marketing imagery, because you can't ride gravel unless you're wearing $800 worth of signature Lycra and a $400 pair of sunglasses

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If that road was any smoother it would be glass! They probably put a roller over just for the ad.
Here what a "good" gravel road typically looks like

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I know I seem a little down on the "racer" set, but I like chocolate and got tired of all the Vegans telling me I should be carrying nuts and fruit for energy instead. Plus I knew a girl, a young mother, who went under the rear wheels of a semi-truck while out riding with the "group". Her wheel deflected off a small rock on the road. She should never have been flying along that road with those trucks passing close by, but what hope did she have stuck in a pack of Strava maniacs? She couldn't practically go off into the grass like on a fat tire bike either. And the steering on them is so twitchy it doesn't take much to deflect a wheel. RIP Susan.

Ahh! That reminds me of all the Spandex-wearing dykes on the bike run I used to pass like they were standing still.
I think my record is 4-5 in 1 run. Always a couple dudes, too. Always with the Spandex, too. I do not get that.
This was in Tampa on Bayshore, but whatever. I knew how to hump it. I had a Cannondale with a 53 elliptical and a road racing cluster. It worked. That cluster was tight, but it felt pretty good, tbh.
I think the lowest gear was a 24. When i switched gears, you could feel the increase.
1st to 2nd to 3rd to 4th, you could feel it. After that, you're just haulin' ass.
4th was high cruise territory. Anything after that, is just speed.

 

[OlderGiantFan]

I used to up my speed some days down by the river and pass packs of them on this old Giant Yukon. I raised a few eyebrows lol. That was 26 years ago, Aero was easy, is easy, drops only add a little extra. Tyre width is not special either but pressure is. I ran MAX pressures and was super fit. I couldn't have kept those speeds up for more than a few miles but I always got out of sight before I turned off and caught my breath

Found an old pic of it.





This is actually the rebuild of that old bike that I undertook 10 years ago, I rode the original into the ground and then gifted it to my brother who was gonna make a trike. It ended up dumped in long grass on his rural property for five years. Luckily the frame was ally, the forks chromoly, I saw it laying there one day, just the frame by itself and decided to resurrect it. I had to replace everything. I started with this.



And used this to replace the wheels, the handlebars and seatpost.



Then a ton of special order parts. This was some super special crank set I read about and bought. Don't know if it added anything to the riding experience though? 85 PSI in the tires. You can always go a little more than spec.





Lotz of polishing!



I still ride it, not often enough though...

 

[n00b]

I used to up my speed some days down by the river and pass packs of them on this old Giant Yukon. I raised a few eyebrows lol. That was 26 years ago, Aero was easy, is easy, drops only add a little extra. Tyre width is not special either but pressure is. I ran MAX pressures and was super fit. I couldn't have kept those speeds up for more than a few miles but I always got out of sight before I turned off and caught my breath.

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This is actually the rebuild of that old bike that I undertook 10 years ago, I rode the original into the ground and then gifted it to my brother who was gonna make a trike. It ended up dumped it in long grass on his rural property for five years. Luckily the frame was ally, the forks chromoly, I saw it laying there one day, just the frame by itself and decided to resurrect it. I had to replace everything. I started with this.

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And used this to replace the wheels, the handlebars and seatpost.

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Then a ton of special order parts. This was some super special crank set I read about and bought. Don't know if it added anything to the riding experience though? 85 PSI in the tires. You can always go a little more than spec.

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Lotz of polishing!

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I still ride it, not often enough though...

I ran 100 psi tires in them days.
Laced my own rim on some great hub and all kinds of stuff.
Lacing a rim, not pleasurable. I worked that light bike.
There was this 1 spot, with like a straight sewer grate, if you didn't get going and bunny hop the whole thing, chances are your rims would get messed up. Instant fubar.
It got me a couple times. It didn't a bunch of times, rither.

 

[n00b]

Someday I'll get a new SD card to replace my 1 that died so I can upload pics, but it looks like not before Christmas.
Here's my "big bike"

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