Brazen attempt at thievery!

HK12K

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I live in a second story apartment with a sizable balcony in a garbage city. Spoke with my neighbor in the apartment next to mine earlier and apparently around 3AM he woke up and didn't really know why. A short time later he saw flashlights shining around at his windows. He goes to investigate and finds that the cops have the place pretty much surrounded. He goes out to see what's up and apparently some thieving POS had carried an aluminum ladder here, set it up, and had attempted to steal a Norco CX bike that was being stored on their balcony.

From what my neighbor said a kid passing by on a bike saw this going down and called 911 to report it. Thanks Kid!!!

They didn't catch the guy, but they let my neighbor keep the ladder.

My ebike was locked indoors, but it really made me realize that I need to secure the Lemond and Soma sitting on my balcony, as well as the RC Truck and boats I was pretty much forced to stick out there due to lack of space. They'd best avoid my balcony though, because if I hear them it's game the f over. :flame: :evil: :flame:
 
HK12K said:
They'd best avoid my balcony though, because if I hear them it's game the f over. :flame: :evil: :flame:

Totally agree, heat of the moment and all shit gets crazy silly theives can get alot more than they bargained for, specially America shits crazy enough without guns in UK violence is violence it will be acted out by even the most civilised when pushed.
 
fechter said:
What city is that in?

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After my housefire, I was sorting stuff in my backyard, when some dude walks into the yard and starts taking things, and when I told him to GTFO he actually tried to ask if I wanted help.... The police never did catch him, but they did know who he was by my description (I was too upset to deal with him; I would probably have done regrettable things if I hadn't just stood there and told him to get out of my yard).


(unfortunately others, probably including him, did end up stealing numerous things from my yard during the almost-year-long rebuild process, and even when the police caught them right there with the stuff, they let them go, usually with my stuff).
 
Now this is brazen thievery:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-oxfordshire-49700620

It's a bit of a shitter, really...
 
amberwolf said:
After my housefire, I was sorting stuff in my backyard, when some dude walks into the yard and starts taking things, and when I told him to GTFO he actually tried to ask if I wanted help....

As far as he was concerned, you were another looter regardless of anything you said. Yeah, the police don't care. I had a guy stop in front of my house, walk down the driveway and pick up the old battery I'd taken out of my car to put the new one in, then start up the driveway again. With me standing there the whole time. I got in front of him and he asked if I wanted to sell it to him. Oh, like you're going to give me more than the $10 I get taking it in, right?

Of course I don't dare leave anything in my driveway unattended. Amazing world we live in.
 
I got gps trackers on all my trailers, scooters and cars.
I let them steal it and then track them to their house and burn it down with them in it if they dont leave. (After getting my stuff back of course.)
 
Was chatting to a local online seller, he said he bought a new $600 put it on lay-away and ended up paying it off. He was on a second story apartment building and locked his bike on his balcony. He stated the scumbag thieves were able to cut his 1" cable lock. I doubt it was that thick. The cable lock companies like to deceive their customers with really thick plastic over the cable. Either way, bolt cutters and its gone.
 
Bike locks are bad. You need proper hardend chain and something like a abus 37/55. Impossible to cut with boltcutters and you need multiple minutes of angle grinder to get a shackle off.

buy a hardend chain and a abus 37/55, 37/60 or a 37/80 for locking up a tank or something.
 
markz said:
Even then, they dont need bolt cutters, nor a loud angle grinder.

how do you plan to steal a bike chained to a balconcy with a chain and lock you cant use boltcutters on?
 
Some disturbing situation with thieves you got there! Today on my way home i've stumbled upon this sight, remembered this topic and took some photos:
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I think these bikes belong to poor migrants from central asia, who works here as food delivery couriers. It's not a bad neighborhood, but not fancy neither (those dilivery guys obviosly can afford rent apartment here). Those bikes just stays here all day long (i am not so sure about overnight).

Maybe our Moscow thieves just don't want to mess with food delivery :)
 
amberwolf said:
After my housefire, I was sorting stuff in my backyard, when some dude walks into the yard and starts taking things, and when I told him to GTFO he actually tried to ask if I wanted help.... The police never did catch him, but they did know who he was by my description (I was too upset to deal with him; I would probably have done regrettable things if I hadn't just stood there and told him to get out of my yard).


(unfortunately others, probably including him, did end up stealing numerous things from my yard during the almost-year-long rebuild process, and even when the police caught them right there with the stuff, they let them go, usually with my stuff).

People are terrible. Credit to you for keeping your head. Not sure I would have had the sensibility to do the same, especially under those circumstances.

flippy said:
I got gps trackers on all my trailers, scooters and cars.
I let them steal it and then track them to their house and burn it down with them in it if they dont leave. (After getting my stuff back of course.)
I need to look into one of those myself. I like the idea of torching their house, as terrible as that may sound. If I thought for a second I could do it with 100% safety and reliability I'd setup my bike so I could remotely dead-short the pack on command. I might not get the bike back, but I could follow the smoke to their burning truck or house and put foot to ass.

markz said:
Was chatting to a local online seller, he said he bought a new $600 put it on lay-away and ended up paying it off. He was on a second story apartment building and locked his bike on his balcony. He stated the scumbag thieves were able to cut his 1" cable lock. I doubt it was that thick. The cable lock companies like to deceive their customers with really thick plastic over the cable. Either way, bolt cutters and its gone.

I'd heard of people getting stuff jacked from upper level balconies, but due to the logistics at our place I didn't ever expect it to happen here. Balconies are in the front of the building in full view of the street and neighbors, and you'd literally need to bring a ladder to even try, which I never really expected anyone to attempt... but damned if they didn't give it the old con-college try.

Cable locks are worthless though, that's a fact. My ebike is secured with a Krypto NY noose AND is locked indoors. The bikes and other stuff on the balcony, for the time being, I've tethered together and with other stuff so if someone attempts a climb and grab they're going to make a hell of a lot of noise. I really need to go lock shopping though.

Skorohod said:
Some disturbing situation with thieves you got there! Today on my way home i've stumbled upon this sight, remembered this topic and took some photos:


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I think these bikes belong to poor migrants from central asia, who works here as food delivery couriers. It's not a bad neighborhood, but not fancy neither (those dilivery guys obviosly can afford rent apartment here). Those bikes just stays here all day long (i am not so sure about overnight).

Maybe our Moscow thieves just don't want to mess with food delivery :)

I suspect the impact from the "People's Law" sees to it that the types of folks who tend to do this sort of thing are kept safely away from that neighborhood, in the gulag. Here instead we give them cash, food, free housing they refuse to take, free needles and crackpipes, bus fare, we pay their phone and utility bills, plus they take pretty much anything that isn't nailed down, and some things that are. (I'd still rather people not be jailed for pot though, so if you could convince your leaders to ease up on the green a bit that would be nice to see. ;))
Punx0r said:
Now this is brazen thievery:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-oxfordshire-49700620

It's a bit of a shitter, really...
That is shitty. Then again, naming a golden toilet "America" and sticking it in a palace overseas for people to defecate in was a pretty shit thing to do as well. I kinda hope their flood insurance lapsed.
 
I am not a theif, so I dont plan to do anything.
Bolt cutter or an angle grinder are not the only tools of scumbag thieves. Sorry but I dont want to propogate how-to's, so I will leave it unmentioned. I feel bad for the victims.


flippy said:
markz said:
Even then, they dont need bolt cutters, nor a loud angle grinder.

how do you plan to steal a bike chained to a balconcy with a chain and lock you cant use boltcutters on?
 
A good lock is expensive.
I paid $70'ish cdn $ for my Kryptonite NYC off of Amazon, from Amazon as the seller. It was "slightly" used but was new, could call it open box.

Abus sells good padlocks. Need one with a metal jacket around the shackle, and invest in a solid chain. Even the chains are expensive.

Scumbag thieves if they want it bad enough.................


HK12K said:
I really need to go lock shopping though.
 
markz said:
A good lock is expensive.
I paid $70'ish cdn $ for my Kryptonite NYC off of Amazon, from Amazon as the seller. It was "slightly" used but was new, could call it open box.

Abus sells good padlocks. Need one with a metal jacket around the shackle, and invest in a solid chain. Even the chains are expensive.

Scumbag thieves if they want it bad enough.................


HK12K said:
I really need to go lock shopping though.
They are. I paid a similar amount for the same lock, which was originally for my CX bike that replaced the hardtail mtb that was stolen from me. MTB was locked in front of Superstore at noon on a Sunday, stupidly with a fat kryptonite cable. Came outside, my bike was gone and my buddies cable had multiple compression marks but was apparently unable to be cut with the bolt cutters because it was too thin and just flattened out. Seems that the thieves had forgotten their tin snips at home that day, so they just left with my Specialized and my helmet. Replaced that bike with a Lemond Poprad and immediately bought a lock and chain that's as heavy as the bike it was protecting. Still have both, so I guess it worked.

I definitely need to get off my ass and invest in more locks and chains though.The bummer is that each of the 3 bikes really should have multiple locks on each, which is going to add up.
 
HK12K said:
I need to look into one of those myself. I like the idea of torching their house, as terrible as that may sound. If I thought for a second I could do it with 100% safety and reliability I'd setup my bike so I could remotely dead-short the pack on command. I might not get the bike back, but I could follow the smoke to their burning truck or house and put foot to ass.

you can get trackers with a relay output you can trigger manually or by gps fence.
 
Cable Locks
Not even tin snips, anything would do. Just a matter of how long it takes.


HK12K said:
Seems that the thieves had forgotten their tin snips at home that day, so they just left with my Specialized and my helmet.
 
One day long time back, I somehow had lost or forgotten the key to my padlock on my cable lock, so after finishing at my destination, I had to sit there for a while and cut my own cable lock with tiny wire cutters I had in my toolkit. IIRC I ended up cutting thru the aluminum "clamp" that held the loop together rather than the cable itself, but either one would've worked, and still took quite a long time (half hour? hour? been so long I dont' remember anymore).

AFAICR no one questioned what I was doing, sitting there by a bike at a bike rack outside the business cutting at the lock....
 
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