Bringing Headways back from the 0V grave

Here is a comparison of the discharge curves for a few of my recycled headway cells.
The low one is the 18mOhm "bad" cell in the post above.
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I might repeat some of these tests, taking more care with the charge cycle, and see if I get much difference.
 
DOD & Internal Resistance

Here is a plot of a lot of the abused cells, showing the Internal Resistance as measured by a constant ~24 Amp load), versus the voltage the cells were at when we got them.

From this I would say don't go below 1.5V and you shouldn't be damaging the cell.

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Please note that I really don't know the history on these cells, and what sort of damage they had been subjected to before we got them in our hands.

- Adrian
 
What does it take to kill a headway cell?

Here is the story.

A couple of us got a bunch of abused headway packs. Some dropped, crushed, shorted, water damaged, generally over-discahrged and left in a pile to rot. Our plan was to rescue the "good" cells, those that showed above 2.0V, and recycle the rest.

But I thought I would try charging up some of the "bad" cells that had <2.0V and see what happens. Some were at 0.0V, a lot at 0.4-0.5V, and various voltage up from there.

The thing is that both "good" and "bad" cells seem to be performing well.

What we have done is:
1) individually charge each cell to 3.6V
- charger is a Turnigy Accucel-8 150W 7A Balancer/Charger

2) Perform a load test to guage voltage sag.
- a couple of big fat resistors on a heat sink to provide a Fluke clamp ampmeter verfied ~24.8 Amp load
- charge up the cell
- let it rest
- apply 24.8 Amp load, measure voltage at 1min mark
- remove load
- measure resting voltage after 2 mins
- infer a DC internal resistance from this.

3) Self Discharge Test
- fully charge the cell
- let it rest for a week or two
- then charge it again, and measure the mAh needed to top it up.

4) Capacity Test
- use the Turnigy Accucel-8 150W 7A Balancer/Charger to discharge at 5Amps down to 2.0V
- record the mAh

The interesting things is that we have found a few duds with high Ri, but most of the "good" and "bad" cells are looking fine.
- DC internal resistance of between 8 and 11 mOhm (based on the voltage sag test above, not the AC 1kHz standard measure)
- No significant self discharge, still requires ~120mAh to top it up after a day, or a couple of weeks.
- All still have greater than 10Ah capacity at 0.5C

There doesn't appear to be any correlation to the DOD we found the cells at, and how good the are now.

We obviously haven't done any long term life cycle testing, but from the "quick" testing so far, it looks like these cells don't instantly die when you take them down to 0 volts, it may hurt the cells, but they still look very useable to us.

Would love to hear the experts opinions on what tests we should do to confirm the health of the batteries, and what it takes to kill them.


- Adrian

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Would just like to say that I have about 25+ dead headway cells that I saved from getting recycled. I'm currently following the OP's method and it is working! Im using a Turnigy AccuCell 6 but method is still the same. All cells at .75v or less and I have charged 6 cells back to full charge in a row and counting. Will see how they hold and discharge before reassembling the pack but I'm happy with my score thus far. I've got a Super Beast on the way now and if I need to replace a few cells so be it. THANK YOU FOR THIS POST!!
 
Charge them and let them sit for a few days and recheck the voltage. Bad cells will have a high self-discharge and start dropping in voltage.
 
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