Brushed motor/brushless controller

[disndat]

Hey guys please forgive the dumb question.Can I use a xylte brushless controller with a brushed motor?I have a shitty chinese standup scooter(it was free)and I keep blowing up controllers(I am only running 36volts but I guess it cant take the amps).If so how do I hook up the motor?The motor has a positive and negative and the xylte has 3 connections.Anybody know I would appreciate the info.

Thanks
Chris

 

[64ragtop]

Hey guys please forgive the dumb question.Can I use a xylte brushless controller with a brushed motor?I have a shitty chinese standup scooter(it was free)and I keep blowing up controllers(I am only running 36volts but I guess it cant take the amps).If so how do I hook up the motor?The motor has a positive and negative and the xylte has 3 connections.Anybody know I would appreciate the info.

Thanks
Chris

Hate to be the bearer of sad tidings, Chris, but the brush motor uses pulse width modulated DC power, and the Crystalyte puts out three phase AC power to switch the magnet polarities in the brushless motor. Sorry, but it won't work!

What controllers have you blown up, and what troubleshooting have you done other than just feeding the gremlin another controller?
Has the scooter run at all, or has it let the magic smoke out of the controllers while just sitting still? :? We can probably help, but need more details.

ATB

BC

 

[Link]

I do believe a PWM waveform rides on top of that one. So I think you could do it with a rectifier array. Good luck finding one big enough, though. And it'll cost you a volt or two.

 

[TylerDurden]

@Link: LOL get some sleep.

Running a brushie with a brushless controller would not be practical; to say the least. A beefy brush controller should be easy enough to get.

 

[gmouchawar]

It can be done but it will be a big waste. Brushless controllers are much more complex than brushed one. You are likely to blow them just as well.
If you are sure there isn't a short in you motor side, here is a powerful controller.
http://www.tncscooters.com/CT-660B9.php
If you don't want to buy one I will trade you. PM me.

 

[Link]

@Link: LOL get some sleep.

Running a brushie with a brushless controller would not be practical; to say the least. A beefy brush controller should be easy enough to get.

I went to bed early. I just woke up when I wrote that. :wink:

And, yeah, it'd be a dumb idea. Especially since a rectifier that big would probably cost you about as much as a new brushed controller.

 

[disndat]

Hey guys thanks for the replies.gmochawer that is the exact controller I have and with my nephew on the scooter it ran fine but with me(I weigh about 80lbs more)it went for a little bit slow then a burst of speed and then dead.I was not going crazy on the throttle but maybe the throttle had a short in it and then surged.I could smell burnt electronic parts from the controller.I have extra xlyte controllers for my ebike so that is why I ask.The batteries are A123s and they are fine,and I am pretty sure the motor is fine as well,although I will check it out.I do not want to drop too much money on this thing(its just a toy really).But if there is a way to get it reliable I would do it.I was thinking about getting the ebikes.ca brushed controller but it is twice as much as the controller I had.The controller before the last blew as well but that was because I opened it up to try and mod the shunt and was cleaning up(cutting) the wires that I did not need(brake signal,battery charge etc..)and when I put it back together nothing nada.Anyway something to screw around with over the winter.

 

[Link]

I wouldn't consider anything with A123s in it to be a "toy", by any means. :wink: