DIY temperature cut off on a regular BMS

Darren2018

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Hi,

Has anyone added a temperature switch to the balance/sense wires? I was wondering if it would be possible to add a temperature switch in series with one of the balance wires, it would be nice to have temperature protection on those BMSs that do not have it built in.
 
The problem with using cell sense lines for this is that often, common BMSs can't detect that a cell is disconnected, or at 0v; they only detect that it's crossed below the LVC point or above the HVC point.

Some of them actually recognize that cells are disconnected, so using a thermal switch between one cell and the BMS, would disconnect that cell when the switch opens, which would trigger the BMS to shutoff output or input.

Some of them don't know a cell is disconnected, but still recognize a cell is dead at 0v.


In the first case, you'd have to build electronics to cause it to indicate to the BMS that the cell was below LVC, but not so far below that it just ignores the problem, *and* that would not actually affect the cell itself.

In the second case, it would jsut work.

In the third case, it would work if you used it to short the cell balance wire to ground, but you'd need electronics to isolate the cell first.



It would be simpler to locate the gate drive circuit for the input and output FETs, and put thermal sensors in series with *those*, so the BMS can't turn those FETs on. (and use a high resistance between the gate and ground so when the switch opens no RF noise / etc can accidentaly turn the FETs on).
 
If the BMS doesn't have temp sensing, then add it completely independently, why try to integrate that function?

Can even drive the same contactors, isolate from the charge buss when getting cold, isolate from both loads and charging in overtemp.

Better would be intelligent scaling of current with temperature, e.g. only allow fast charging when very warm, but a 0.1C rate is OK down to 10°C

Ideal would be control heating / cooling systems to achieve the temp range desired for the current usage, as with EV TCSs
 
You can use a temperature switch to kill power to the bike by turning off the controller's "ignition" switch (or maybe interupt the throttle). On my last bike I just had it wired to light up a red LED as an over-temp. warning. IMO that's better than a system that can randomly kill the bike as if it happened when you were crossing traffic or halfway up a steep incline offroad it could be hazardous, or at least very annoying.
 
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