Dr. Greger explains the cause of insulin resistance, p 17 and explains how to reverse heart failure pg 17

I do not like onion, so I get a mental blank spot when its mentioned.
Patatoe's are good, I like Sweet Patatoes but my downfall is the hot sauce and mayo mix, or ketchup and vinegar. Even more of a downfall is at midnight I will snack on lots of junk food, a whole row of Oreo's, Slices of Cheese. What needs to happen is having fresh fruit ready to eat, like grapes already off the vine, oranges already peeled, apples already sliced, banana's on the counter. I like your mention of whole oats for oatmeal, I love oatmeal.

Matt Gruber said:
Dr Greger's positive report on onions is what inspired me to buy 3 bags at $1/bag, 7.5# of onions :mrgreen:
guess you missed the 1st item: potato mashed into 3.3 oz onion.
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mark
people ask "what do you eat?"
There are hundreds of healthy foods, most i've never tried because they are not available locally, or, i don't know how to prepare them, or i've never had it before. It helps a lot when your parents cook for you as a kid. Mine grew onions and radishes, and i HATED them both. BUT, one day i'm eating a stew, and it was delicious, and i'm eating a COOKED onion from the garden! :lol:
oatmeal is good, i'm adding some pre-cooked beets to mine right now 8)
GREAT VIDEO showing examples of what you should get to eat healthy. Don't miss it! :thumb:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sBrA62J43g
 
This video explains how the normal human body works, so you can understand why you are eating the healthy food in the previous video.
It is not medical advice for sick people. Several sick people have chimed in, explaining that they can't eat things like a potato, corn, or rice, because it makes them sick. They should work with their Dr. and once they get back to normal, THEN then can eat a normal healthy diet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra_wOmVuHIM
The most surprising myth is that to grow muscles and endurance, you need to eat more protein. Totally false, yet popular idea. Proved wrong by scientific studies. You need fuel, and protein is not fuel.
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9X Gold medal winner, Carl Lewis, was asked what he ate before a meet/race. "Peanut butter on bread and a banana" and the night before? "Lots of pasta"
 
Matt Gruber said:
The most surprising myth is that to grow muscles and endurance, you need to eat more protein. Totally false, yet popular idea. Proved wrong by scientific studies. You need fuel, and protein is not fuel.
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9X Gold medal winner, Carl Lewis, was asked what he ate before a meet/race. "Peanut butter on bread and a banana" and the night before? "Lots of pasta"
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More protein than what amount? Also, that statement doesn't address the obvious question of whether increasing protein consumption is beneficcial or not for building muscle size and/or increasing endurance.

Protein is not a primary fuel, but the body can use it as a fuel if needed and perhaps will convert a fair bit of it to glucose if sufficient quantities are eaten. Given the amount of carbohydrates most people consume, however, it probably doesn't contribute much fuel typically.

Carl Lewis' pre-race diet says pretty much nothing about the diet needed to grow strength, speed or endurance.
 
wturber
thanks for your reply!
you confirmed my suspicion the people don't actually watch, or comprehend, the videos i post.
you would not post such nonsense if you did. you would post a link to a scientific study that supports your opinion, if there is such a study, and that is unlikely.
my comments were about the excellent video and make perfect sense.
 
Give a weight lifter no carbs and see what happens, lift less weight for less reps.

The body can work in two modes regular eating people will tend to store fat and the body will hunt a heavy carb diet or where as regular fasting can push the body to hunting proteins and chsnge your physical apperance like a kito diet.

If you find yourself in a kito state like i did youbwill find you have enormous initial strength but endurance is a no go i have to stop let my digestion catch up to get energy while a normal person woupd engage their fat reserves.

Im 65kg and csn lift 80kg no issues with little training my muscle always shows through my skin but the cold kills me and on a long bike ride 30 miles and i cant do no more physicsly exhausted.
 
Matt Gruber said:
wturber
thanks for your reply!
you confirmed my suspicion the people don't actually watch, or comprehend, the videos i post.
you would not post such nonsense if you did. you would post a link to a scientific study that supports your opinion, if there is such a study, and that is unlikely.
my comments were about the excellent video and make perfect sense.
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You are correct in that I don't come here to watch hour and a half long videos on nutrition. The rest, not so much.
 
OK, here is a good one for you protein guys.

https://www.scienceofultra.com/podcasts/42
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:D :bolt:
 
got 27 lbs of veggies for $10.84! Some was past due, but a great deal
6# onions $1
3# berries $3
3 beets w/tops 1.49, 4 tom. .49, califlower .99, 12 corn $2., 7 yams $1.85
this will last a week or more.
Lunch i made a stew and added some pasta to get enough energy. 2 plates, will eat 2nd later. can eat all you want on the McDougall plan. NO LIMIT. (no meat or oils allowed).
bike this week compared to last week, up 79%
compared to 3 weeks ago up 125% :mrgreen:
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:shock: Dr Atkins, in his own words, at 36:00 said that for someone at normal weight (me) HIS ATKINS DIET is HIGH CARB! :shock:
I never expected that! His WEIGHT LOSS DIET is NO CARB, i never had a weight problem. So there you have it, Atkins recommends HIGH CARBS for normal weight people! AT the end of this rare interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBi2VABLNb0
 
I've never been able to stay on a true low fat diet for more than a week. i just get too hungry. I've gained 2#, so it is time to take it off.
it has taken me a year to cut thru the drivel on food. :roll: I've learned that each food needs to be looked at carefully, VERY carefully. Can't lump food into 3 forms (fat, protein, carbs) without making serious mistakes :(
When i tried low fat for a week, my pedal range increased, so i want to try it again and see if it was low fat, or something else. In this Dr Greger video, he explains how wheat can have dramatic differences depending on the final food. Bread can cause insulin spikes, but pasta is way way better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqodkfTGE48
So i'm cutting way back on the PB, and when i get too hungry, i'll try pasta or brown rice. 5-20-19 update: tried the pasta alone, and it sucked :( So today i hit the jackpot by adding a cooked onion, a green bean, and tomato paste, no fat and delicious :mrgreen: I did still get hungry 2 hrs later, so i drank a glass of water, and did exercises. Hunger gone until 4;45 8)
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OTOH, see how far she goes on PB in this 5 minute video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqigzj97Vpo
 
What to pro bikers eat?
very interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iriejQTgF0
more rice than pasta and no soda!
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She explains the benefits and how to do it easy (14 min)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJgi4J8Rjpo
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so i got a bag of idaho potatoes, but they are very dry. sure, butter, margarine, or sour cream on one would taste great, but they all contain lots of fat, and as the name suggests, fat makes you FAT :(
also got 12 lbs. of onions for $1. What am i going to do with 12 lbs of onions. Well, dice and freeze half, and cook the rest since i hate raw onions :(
So i found that they get sweet tasting cooked, and make an excellent topping for a potato, and maybe anything-
with a huge quantity i'll be testing cooked onions on many foods. Also, after much research, i found that it is near impossible to gain weight on an a produce diet . I eat 5 or 6 plates of food a day, and with fat under 10% i can't gain weight. Have lost 1 of the 2 lbs i gained when i was eating too many corn chips and PB. 8)
TIP: when dicing onions wear goggles :shock: protects your eyes
and i'm planting a few that have sprouted (that is why the low price, they are starting to grow) 8)
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In case you have not realized this by now, my posts are not to tell you what to do, or how to eat, but are to motivate you to find out what works BEST for you. For example there are dozens of spices that don't contain fat and will add new life to your food while improving your health 8) Dr Greger covers these and his videos are a great source of inspiration :mrgreen: https://www.youtube.com/user/NutritionFactsOrg
 
Get it for $10, or read a free sample on google. I like Sardina, Italy. Potatoes, tomatoes, zucchini. cabbage, onions, pasta, wine, almost exactly what i'm now eating 8) People are out dancing at age 100+.
Forward by Dean Ornish, MD- his plan is approved by Medicare, took 8 years.
Here is a 60 minutes TV show, but be aware they imply junk foods like Ice cream and it is rarely eaten.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIWibXSOfNg
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I am IMPRESSED 8) with what food can do :) My bike range is up 200% and climbing :bigthumb:
 
Theres an old saying you are what you eat that's just half the story really we are a product of the environment we live in, for example best diet in the world would not stop anyone is Chernobyl from becoming ill slow exposure to things that are invisible can have serious effect.
 
Ianhill said:
Theres an old saying you are what you eat that's just half the story really we are a product of the environment we live in, for example best diet in the world would not stop anyone is Chernobyl from becoming ill slow exposure to things that are invisible can have serious effect.
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Food is not a cure all. If you get hit by a car, you will be just as dead even with great food. BUT, what i've learned in the past 2 years is that the immune system is like having your own police force. Give it a job now and then, and it stays in shape for anything serious . Throw too much at it, like pesticides, plastics, pollution, AND feed it junk food like eggs, olive oil, and dairy, and it gets overwhelmed and makes mistakes. Attacked my thyroid, for example. Might miss cancer cells, etc. So the moral of my story is that it is worth the time it takes to learn how the body works and what helps and hurts performance. 8)
PS. Have not needed any thyroid pills in the past week, and my pulse is 59-64 8)
 
I'm generally lucky in that regard I seem to have low blood pressure and decent health but like you say don't give the pokice force to much work there might be a strike
 
So this was my mistake, i looked at the PB label:
portion 32g, 180 calories.
fat 15g - so i was thinking, wow, 47% fat, but way better than oil, 100% fat.
BUT, fat is 9 calories per gram, vs. 4 for protein or carbs.
So, 9x15-135 calories from fat, 75% :oops:
So i won't be using up the 2 jars i have anytime soon. :roll:
THIS mistake is what delayed my increase in range by 8 months :oops: I thought i was LOW fat, BUT i was way up there with SAD - the Standard American Diet.
Also made the same mistake with corn chips. 130 cal, 28g
7g from fat, i was thinking 25% fat. BUT it is 48% fat, quite a difference! Better than PB as a snack, BUT i've switched to pasta as it is about 5% fat with some tomato paste :thumb:
The lower fat foods reversed my insulin resistance, which now allows much more glucose to enter my muscle cells. Before, my cells were clogged with fat and did not allow much glucose to get in. So, my muscles would get sore quickly. And NO, i never was diagnosed with diabetes, just pre-diabetes, fasting glucose 115. I studied this for over a year, so it was not easy to figure this out. I had no idea this was causing sore muscles, and if i pushed myself, i'd get injured. So a serious limitation, don't you think?
So what happens w/low fat, is that since the body does need some fat, it grabs fat anywhere it can find it; in this case, my muscle cells, which do not enlarge like fat storing cells. Also clears out arteries, veins, possibly the liver, anywhere that has this excess fat. Keep in mind my BMI is 18, i am a skinny guy :shock:
Not expecting to stay low low fat forever, as the body does need some fat; i just need to be sure all the excess is cleared out before i carefully and slowly add back a little PB or corn chips.
 
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so my dark chocolate moves up to 1st place for a quick snack. 3 squares, 100cal, max per day. i get a 3.5oz bar for $1 at DG. only 50% cal from fat, similar to corn chips 47%, but it won't go stale(high humidity in FL) Plus it is easy to carry, say, on a bike ride. PB is out, but peanuts are not too bad, as studies show that most of the fat ends up in the toilet, since chewing is not as "good" as a PB factory grinder. They add an unknown amount of oil and sugar. It is unknown because they keep it in the same proportion as peanuts. Sneaky. Could be 1/3 oil, who knows. PB is cheaper than peanuts, so they cut corners.
 
e-beach said:
Matt Gruber said:
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The lower fat foods reversed my insulin resistance.......
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http://time.com/5048653/weight-loss-diabetes-diet
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good article for fat people diagnosed with diabetes. if i lost 30 lbs i'd be dead.. i had high fasting glucose all the way back in 1985, so the idea that after 10 years is too late, is also a red flag that this does not apply to me. My only clue was that persistant high fasting glucose. I had to find the cause of it.
All my Dr's could take a quick look at me, see a skinny guy and know for sure that i don't have diabetes. :roll:
Even if they did know that 20% are slim, they don't know how to treat this with food. :roll: None even asked what i am eating. :roll:
Thanks for posting; Shows how general information can wrongly be used to rule out a condition. I've read about diabetes many times over the years, but none of my symptoms matched. Had to do a lot of study to find the ONE that does match. I still don't know if i had diabetes, maybe i just had insulin resistance? Or lipids clogging my muscle cells? Whatever it was it is gone :bigthumb:
This is where healthy eating has a huge advantage over MD's. MD's just want to name a condition and put you on drugs for the rest of your life. Healthy eaters just want you to eat delicious fresh produce and see if it makes you feel any better. :bigthumb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd6mlU1x0jg
 
The amount of disinformation and misconception regarding "what is good or bad" to eat is truly amazing. I've found many times doctors don't have a clue about certain illnesses and you can figure out some things better on your own.

Diabetes is a very complex disorder. In research at my "day job" we are finding a key part of diabetes is signalling receptors located in the lower ileum part of the gut. These receptors are looking for signalling agents that come from higher in the gut. But if the gut biota gobbles up these agents, they never make it to the L cell receptors in the lower gut and somehow this triggers insulin resistance. Anything that interferes with this endocrine feedback loop causes type 2.

People all have different gut biota, which is one of the reasons why some people do well with certain foods while others do not. There are over 20,000 species in the gut biota and just detecting which ones are there is very difficult. Modern DNA analysis is making this more possible these days, but just getting a sample to test is very hard.
 
fechter
Quite a surprise that you work in this field :shock: Who is funding this research and who do they want to help?
i.e. A charity would want to help poor people at minimum cost, but a drug co. would want a new drug that they can bill medicare as much as possible.
Do they care what people eat? Here is a great video showing why some studies fail:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP_fRnQ9GRg
How much saturated fat and total fat do your test subjects eat?(percent of daily calories from fat)
Thanks for your comments 8)
 
Our research is mostly funded by the NIH (US government). There are several surgical treatments that can possibly solve the problem without significantly changing the diet.

Another observation I've made is the whole food distribution system is broken. It's all based on maximizing profits for food producing companies and health consequences are at the bottom of the priority list.
 
fechter said:
People all have different gut biota, which is one of the reasons why some people do well with certain foods while others do not. There are over 20,000 species in the gut biota and just detecting which ones are there is very difficult. Modern DNA analysis is making this more possible these days, but just getting a sample to test is very hard.
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https://www.fastcompany.com/40573090/please-send-us-your-poop
 
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