E-S Phasor Electric Bike Owners

Hey Rod, Now thats just awesome!!! :mrgreen: I like that couger on the phasor, both are beutiful. Let me guess, your pick up line is: Hey babe, wanna go for a ride on the wild side? Then after I will take your for a ride on my bike? YAH!!!!! Now when do we get to see that video?

Rick
 
Rodney64 said:
Cougar on a Phasor

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not bad for an older chick....looks like she has ass and thats always a good thing!
 
Rix said:
Rodney64 said:
I have just installed the bottom bracket, packed it with a lithium grease and put on a 170mm crank so I can determine my correct seat height.
I have cut my seat post so it doesn't protrude past the frame and adjusted the seat angle.
Sitting on the bike feels really good. Bought back memories riding trail bikes in my younger days.
I have taken a few pics and will up load shortly.

Hello Rodney 64,

I am new to this forum but have been following your build. Just curious, whats your inseam length? Look like a person would need to be tall for stand over clearance on the phasor frame running 26" wheels. Nice build. What the projected bike weight going to be?

Rix


Rick I have been hunting for this post all day. This cougar definitely didn't have any trouble straddling the Phasor.

Jokes aside The good thing about the Phasor if you want to put less travel on the front and back plus smaller rims it will suit most.

ohzee said:
ok Rodney now I really want to move in with you.

Ill be the pool boy and I will work for bike rides.

Sorry Ohzee but no pool.

korpin said:
Rodney64 said:
Cougar on a Phasor



not bad for an older chick....looks like she has ass and thats always a good thing!

Actually no ass. All tits.
 
Rodney64 said:
A Rick, rode up to the pub and was picked up after 2 hours by my wife who's never happy if I'm having fun.

My girlfriend who is 15 years younger than I (42 vs 27) is the same way. I told her to dump me several times but she wont. The 3 Bs, bikes (electric), beer, and booty make me a happy man. I hear you loud and clear. Anyway the babe straddling your phasor looks good to go.

Rick
 
Hey Rod,
Great vid, you still rockin the 29" rear wheel? At the pics on the water (BTW Cool) the front and rear look the same size.

Rick
 
Rix said:
Hey Rod,
Great vid, you still rockin the 29" rear wheel? At the pics on the water (BTW Cool) the front and rear look the same size.

Rick

At the moment Rick I have the 3580 back on. I blew my 12 fet controller so decided to put the 3580 back on. Need to send 2 controllers to Edward Lyen one for repair and one to modify to a sensorless version. Might give it another try as I'm keen to try it with the crystalyte controller. It's always given me my best top speed. But as I'm down to my last controller reluctant to push the limit as ill be without a bike.
 
but whats that noise ?
which motor is that kind of noisy ?
 
Thanks...

We got 25% more in germany ;)
250W is our limit in germany / the EU :-(
 
Dh Paule, Not much better here in the states. Our legal limit is 750 watts and/or 23MPH or 37KPH. Thats the federal limits as of 2010. States can regulate more strict, but not less strict. Whether its 200 watts, 250 watts, or 750 watts, it isn't anywhere near as fun as running 4kw or higher. When I got my bomber, it was restricted to the 750 watts output. Rode it around for a week to condition and break in the battery. Then when I cut the restrictor wire, Sheeeeiiiiit it became fun.

Rod, if you have 350 USD to spend, look into this Kelly Controller KEB72601X,72V for Crystalyte Series Motors. Its 18fet specifically made for the 5000 series and is rated up to 8 KW peak. The only issue I can see is the voltage in put range, its rated from 24-90 and if I remember correctly you are about 10 volts higher hot off the charger. The one area I am not very sharp about is controllers. I took mine apart to copper wrap and solder the shunt (looking for an extra 15ah) only to discover that my shunt was already factory modded with a built in shunt resistor. Also the traces were beef up considerably with solder using some kind of oscillating pattern. It was so preety that I didn't mess with it. Anyway, I think the Kelly would probably prove to be more durable than the 12 fet you are having repaired. Food for thought.

Rick
 
its a pity that it is limited to specific watts :-(
For me it would be great to have full power but maybe restricted maximum speed to 25 kph as pedelec or 45kph as "speed pedelec"
25 kph offroad on funny singletrails are more than enough, but i want this speed also uphills ;)
 
dh-paule said:
its a pity that it is limited to specific watts :-(
For me it would be great to have full power but maybe restricted maximum speed to 25 kph as pedelec or 45kph as "speed pedelec"
25 kph offroad on funny singletrails are more than enough, but i want this speed also uphills ;)

I agree with you Paule, for me my ideal e bike would put out 7KW, top speed of 30MPH, and could climb steep hills at 30MPH. I love my Bomber, I radar confirmed its top speed at 56MPH. but I would trade that for a higher torque lower speed option, which I am in the process of doing once my 5404 is done. I even laced my rear rim to a 19x1.4 inch motorcycle rim and I am running a Bridgestone M23 2.5x19 tire. OD is 24.6", about an inch smaller than the Duro razorback 24x3 which comes out to 25.6 inches OD. Higher torque motor with smaller OD tire = more torque. If I build up a phasor frame, it will have this rim tire combo with either the H4065 or cromotor with the 4 turn stator @ 70-80 volts 18-20s lipo @ 100Ah. Yah!! that would flip me over backwards from dead stop. You got a phasor build coming up?

HD Killer, its a new year, where are the Killer vidoes? Looks like Rod is carrying the entire thread with vids. Don't leave him hangin :mrgreen: .
 
dh-paule said:
Thanks...

We got 25% more in germany ;)
250W is our limit in germany / the EU :-(


Paule. We are coming inline with the 250 watt EU but it still needs to be passed.




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Rix said:
I agree with you Paule, for me my ideal e bike would put out 7KW, top speed of 30MPH, and could climb steep hills at 30MPH. I love my Bomber, I radar confirmed its top speed at 56MPH. but I would trade that for a higher torque lower speed option, which I am in the process of doing once my 5404 is done. I even laced my rear rim to a 19x1.4 inch motorcycle rim and I am running a Bridgestone M23 2.5x19 tire. OD is 24.6", about an inch smaller than the Duro razorback 24x3 which comes out to 25.6 inches OD. Higher torque motor with smaller OD tire = more torque. : .

Rick I like the idea of using a 19-20 inch rim on the 4080. Did you buy the spokes to suit the rim or modify some.
This will be next summers project.
 
Rix said:
You got a phasor build coming up?...

no, not yet..
Thinking about a stealth bomber, but don't like the price in germany...
Its around 14.000€ for the bomber :-(
If you compare it with eRockit for instance, thats 12.000€ and street legal !
The bomber and all diy builds are illegal

Even if illegal is no matter, an KTM Freeride E for 9.000€ to 10.000€ is more valuable than the retailprice of an bomber. OK, the bomber has a big advantage over a KTM freeride: it looks like a bike, not like a motobike... so you could be more "stealth" in the woods ;)

At the moment I am thinking about modifying one of my downhillbikes...
 
Paule, I would go the Phasor route since the tax in Germany is so damn high on the Bomber. $14,000 Euro is almost $19,000 USD based on current exchange rate. My bomber cost me 10,200 USD or about 7800 Euro to get into the US. About the same price as the KTM XCW500. I love my Bomber, but if I had to pay $19,000.00 USD, I would not have been able to afford it. As was, the price I did pay required me to spend the last year working tons of OT to pay it off. However, the sacrafice was well worth it though. The whole DIY option is Intriguing to me. That why I like this thread that Rod started so much. Its neat to see what other people are building. But I think if you were going to go the downhill MTB frame route, go with the Phasor Frame. Its a cheaper and a better option then a medium level downhill frame. And up to thousands cheaper than some highend MTB Freeride or Downhill frames, Brooklyn Machine Works and Karpiel come to mind.

Hey Rod, the wheel I built is on my Bomber in my avatar picture. That is a 19"x1.4" prowheel racing rim laced to the Crystalyte 5403. I consulted a wheel smith/spoke cutter for the spokes. With the 54XX hub, the spoke length he determined I needed was 133mm. But after I laced and trued the wheel, I had to grind the hell out of the spokes because they were sticking up a couple of mm past the nipple head. 131mm would have been fine and I would have still ended up grinding some at that length. As near as I can tell from comparing various pictures online, the diameter of the HS40 hub flange you have should be right around 245mm give or take 1-2mm eitherway and the width should be around 43mm give or take 1-2mm either way. Take some measurments and let me know If that is the case. If it is and you go with the rim I have, than 131mm stainless steel spokes 3mm thick will be what you want with 1X lace pattern. And ironically enough, the weight of the rim and tire (Bridgestone M23 2.5x19) I am running now came out to just over a pound 1/2kg more than the rim with the duro razorback 24x3 and heavy duty downhill tube that originally came on the bomber. Like I said earlier, the inch smaller diameter of my current setup I'm running now, i can feel the increase in torque when taking off and climbing and I haven't flatted at all on the lava rock terrain I ride. Ah can't wait to try it out when I get my 5404 stator back and installed. I am thinking off the line power wheelies.

Rick
 
Yeah, that´s crappy ol Germany where some dudes that, don´t even make the bike try to rip people of just, by sitting in between the maker and possible buyer trying to live of both sides. It sometimes makes me mad. Those that work hard with maximum effort are somehow always overcome by these lazy ass people. :evil:


JOHN you´ve heard this many times over from me, but as long as you don´t manufacture your bikes here under license the stealth universe in Germany will remain tiny. It´s such a shame as everyone that rode my bomber wanted one. But at 14000 € most people will have to rob a bank to do so.
 
Hi Dlogic,

yes its a pity that the bomber is overpriced. I know a lot of very interessted biker at the offroadforen.de
Since it becomes more and more difficult to go offroad with a motorbike, they think about a electric bike that could replace the enduro/mx bike. Silent rides across the woods... a dream ;)

For the 7500-8000€ that Rix told... i would directly buy one and jump into the trails around my home. And i am sure, at one of my next offroadevents a lot of the guys will try the bomber as a replacement for the motorbike... Our next event is planned in april with around 200 guys in an abandoned mining area ;)

@Rix,
the dh-frames already available since "dh" in my username stands for downhill. These frames are handmade quality from FOES california :)

Unfortunately the rear dropout is 135mm only on both frames, so the larger Clyte motors will not fit :-(
 
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