e-beach
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kämrəd Dauntless said:
kämrəd Dauntless....you are so predictable..... :lol:
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kämrəd Dauntless....you are so predictable..... :lol:
eyebyesickle
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Look, I came in talking **** to people I thought were being foolish, but this isn't about petty bickering. I will even apologize right now...-> I'M SORRY! 
I am really surprised to see some people who seem like intelligent, critical thinkers, so BLIND - not only that, but actually counterproductive. You might even sway additional people. Maybe the campaign is better than I thought... it's all old news to me so I barely pay attention to what they are saying. As I have stated - I HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THIS. Okay? I wouldn't take that lightly... and I do take it personally when this is brushed off because it is pretty damn serious - I just prefer not to deeply address that particular aspect. Also, my experience with this issue is irrelevant if you are not taking my word for it. So I am going to drop all petty bickering right now and address the actual issue of pedophilia/trafficking among the political/protected/elite etc... that's what 'pizzagate' is to me. A glimpse yet again into elite pedophilia/trafficking world... NOT children being sold from a pizza place, that is beyond stupid... Although the business was tied in with the world of trafficking if by nothing other than proximity/common local culture as you can obviously glimpse from the dialogue in videos that were made of live performances (can supply upon request), the child sex preference of some is 'common knowledge' in some circles.
You might have noticed, that when 'pizzagate' started... it was about the code words in the emails... which matched up with pedophilia... The emails were obviously talking about something, but you could still write that off if you wanted... but then you have to take note of the involved parties artwork preferences:
![sick-art[1].jpg](https://endless-sphere.com/sphere/data/attachments/114/114504-4642eca8920438769b935a79256096b0.jpg "sick-art[1].jpg")
Most people would not prefer this kind of artwork. Perhaps there is something to that.... oddities add up...
Then you got that pizza store owner and employees with all sorts of pedophilia and trafficking innuendo posts/pictures. It was blatant and that is how some people do it. They are so deep in the culture where it is tolerated if not protected and they drop innuendo left and right...
SO, THEY GOT AHEAD OF THE ISSUE. As the real issue of child trafficking popped up, they played it off like another election tool hoax, and made it all about Hillary and comet ping pong. NO, NOT AT ALL... the fact was they fed you a BS story with SOME of the facts, and then switched some, and obviously omitted the real issue, replacing it with something very implausible. Do you not understand how this sort of thing works?
Here is an interesting objective look about PIZZAGATE - they conclude that there was no real investigation. DUH.
[youtube]-GZFHLAcG8A[/youtube]
So then, how in the world could you know that there isn't anything going on if you are taking their word for it. They didn't even really investigate.
I guess it isn't common knowledge to everyone that the banking-intelligence-military-industrial-entertainment business is one thing? Throw in oil and your crap food and all that too, of course. MMM, YUMMY. Now eat that stupid ass story too, then spit it back out and act smart because you knew it was BS. In all the commotion - YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT... Children are being trafficking constantly, and some of it is in conjunction with CIA/POLITICAL/ELITE etc. etc... even tied in with national security on some levels (children develop dissociative personas from trauma, which are then brainwashed by CIA, yes it is documented thoroughly even if you don't know about it).
At these 'elite parties' with the pedophilia and everything else... there is a lot of blackmail for the intelligence community (which ties in with secret societies etc) as well as the brainwashing/training of dissociative personas of future operatives (chosen trafficked children) they are grooming. This is why a lot of this continues to go on and be protected for national security. Because the good ol boy club(322,etc) linked up executive, legislative, and judicial and everything else and are steering the ship.
Anyway, act like this sort of thing doesn't go on:
If you want, you could look into Paul Bonacci, who was involved in the Franklin Cover Up Scandal, and was eventually awarded a million dollar settlement (that he didn't get to see). He has testified in court against culprits, and made several statements about MONARCH, which is the CIA/MILITARY program that take trafficked children who developed dissociative personas, or 'split personalities' from the trauma of trafficking (they also make this happen with torture, etc) and then brainwash/program their split personality to be a SLEEPER. Yes. This is real, and they tested methods for A LONG TIME with MK-ULTRA - which is declassified and you can read all about the child sex abuse and the torture, and more... (again, available upon request if you are search illiterate for some reason - hmmm).
Paul talking very robotically about MONARCH, but don't let that fool you... BUSH, and all his club, and obviously much more but point is...you hear... they were taking over US GOVT through MONARCH, with the blackmail, etc etc.... they set up the whole DEEP STATE... you have to realize here...he talks about some stuff, like the antichrist etc... look I don't care what you believe - but let me clear this up. When they torture these children into having split personalities, sometimes they throw in some ol weirdo satanic shit. They go buck wild let me tell you. This serves several purposes... it helps split the personality with the themed trauma, but also, take note, that this was his reality from a little child... so it isn't that he is crazy... he was just taught this since he was a child. Most people believe what they were taught since childhood. So if they told him their plan was to do something and he repeats that, he is just repeated what he heard. People like to take things like this and make it into something he isn't. To really understand this, you may have to have a better understanding of MPD/DID and psychology in general.... but anyway... they talk to different personalities here it is kind of a mess. If you watch the WHOLE version, you can clearly see he knows exactly what he is talking about... being placed to set up and blackmail VIPs
[youtube]ZsBVI3yHmvM[/youtube]
Ok. Gotta run, but with Epstein, McMartin Case, and so many other instances (not even bringing up the 100's of survivor books, or 1000's of active forum members in major online etc communities. There is a moderate national/local group prescence, but it is very protected as this is very serious business. I currently work internationally with trauma specialists for dissociative and co-morbid disorders for these type of victims... Do not try to tell me that children are not being trafficked by the 'elite' and otherwise, and do yourself a favor and apologize to the children, and adjust your attitude.
I'm sure I will be back to go heavy on references... I expect resistance... but the facts are out there. Unfortunately, some of us spend blood sweat and tears learning about this the hard way, and trying to do something about it. You can read anything you want on the internet, or or watch whatever you want on the TV. Doesn't make it true. So do what you do, believe what you believe, but don't you dare start talking bad acting like this isn't happening... how dare you... I've SEEN this and the aftereffects - don't be naïve.
Dead Serious, even if my grammar is horrible, and I am not the most articulate... do yourself a favor and take a second look into things if you actually care... the trafficking world is HUGE... and it is everywhere
I am really surprised to see some people who seem like intelligent, critical thinkers, so BLIND - not only that, but actually counterproductive. You might even sway additional people. Maybe the campaign is better than I thought... it's all old news to me so I barely pay attention to what they are saying. As I have stated - I HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THIS. Okay? I wouldn't take that lightly... and I do take it personally when this is brushed off because it is pretty damn serious - I just prefer not to deeply address that particular aspect. Also, my experience with this issue is irrelevant if you are not taking my word for it. So I am going to drop all petty bickering right now and address the actual issue of pedophilia/trafficking among the political/protected/elite etc... that's what 'pizzagate' is to me. A glimpse yet again into elite pedophilia/trafficking world... NOT children being sold from a pizza place, that is beyond stupid... Although the business was tied in with the world of trafficking if by nothing other than proximity/common local culture as you can obviously glimpse from the dialogue in videos that were made of live performances (can supply upon request), the child sex preference of some is 'common knowledge' in some circles.
You might have noticed, that when 'pizzagate' started... it was about the code words in the emails... which matched up with pedophilia... The emails were obviously talking about something, but you could still write that off if you wanted... but then you have to take note of the involved parties artwork preferences:
Most people would not prefer this kind of artwork. Perhaps there is something to that.... oddities add up...
Then you got that pizza store owner and employees with all sorts of pedophilia and trafficking innuendo posts/pictures. It was blatant and that is how some people do it. They are so deep in the culture where it is tolerated if not protected and they drop innuendo left and right...
SO, THEY GOT AHEAD OF THE ISSUE. As the real issue of child trafficking popped up, they played it off like another election tool hoax, and made it all about Hillary and comet ping pong. NO, NOT AT ALL... the fact was they fed you a BS story with SOME of the facts, and then switched some, and obviously omitted the real issue, replacing it with something very implausible. Do you not understand how this sort of thing works?
Here is an interesting objective look about PIZZAGATE - they conclude that there was no real investigation. DUH.
[youtube]-GZFHLAcG8A[/youtube]
So then, how in the world could you know that there isn't anything going on if you are taking their word for it. They didn't even really investigate.
I guess it isn't common knowledge to everyone that the banking-intelligence-military-industrial-entertainment business is one thing? Throw in oil and your crap food and all that too, of course. MMM, YUMMY. Now eat that stupid ass story too, then spit it back out and act smart because you knew it was BS. In all the commotion - YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT... Children are being trafficking constantly, and some of it is in conjunction with CIA/POLITICAL/ELITE etc. etc... even tied in with national security on some levels (children develop dissociative personas from trauma, which are then brainwashed by CIA, yes it is documented thoroughly even if you don't know about it).
At these 'elite parties' with the pedophilia and everything else... there is a lot of blackmail for the intelligence community (which ties in with secret societies etc) as well as the brainwashing/training of dissociative personas of future operatives (chosen trafficked children) they are grooming. This is why a lot of this continues to go on and be protected for national security. Because the good ol boy club(322,etc) linked up executive, legislative, and judicial and everything else and are steering the ship.
Anyway, act like this sort of thing doesn't go on:
If you want, you could look into Paul Bonacci, who was involved in the Franklin Cover Up Scandal, and was eventually awarded a million dollar settlement (that he didn't get to see). He has testified in court against culprits, and made several statements about MONARCH, which is the CIA/MILITARY program that take trafficked children who developed dissociative personas, or 'split personalities' from the trauma of trafficking (they also make this happen with torture, etc) and then brainwash/program their split personality to be a SLEEPER. Yes. This is real, and they tested methods for A LONG TIME with MK-ULTRA - which is declassified and you can read all about the child sex abuse and the torture, and more... (again, available upon request if you are search illiterate for some reason - hmmm).
Paul talking very robotically about MONARCH, but don't let that fool you... BUSH, and all his club, and obviously much more but point is...you hear... they were taking over US GOVT through MONARCH, with the blackmail, etc etc.... they set up the whole DEEP STATE... you have to realize here...he talks about some stuff, like the antichrist etc... look I don't care what you believe - but let me clear this up. When they torture these children into having split personalities, sometimes they throw in some ol weirdo satanic shit. They go buck wild let me tell you. This serves several purposes... it helps split the personality with the themed trauma, but also, take note, that this was his reality from a little child... so it isn't that he is crazy... he was just taught this since he was a child. Most people believe what they were taught since childhood. So if they told him their plan was to do something and he repeats that, he is just repeated what he heard. People like to take things like this and make it into something he isn't. To really understand this, you may have to have a better understanding of MPD/DID and psychology in general.... but anyway... they talk to different personalities here it is kind of a mess. If you watch the WHOLE version, you can clearly see he knows exactly what he is talking about... being placed to set up and blackmail VIPs
[youtube]ZsBVI3yHmvM[/youtube]
Ok. Gotta run, but with Epstein, McMartin Case, and so many other instances (not even bringing up the 100's of survivor books, or 1000's of active forum members in major online etc communities. There is a moderate national/local group prescence, but it is very protected as this is very serious business. I currently work internationally with trauma specialists for dissociative and co-morbid disorders for these type of victims... Do not try to tell me that children are not being trafficked by the 'elite' and otherwise, and do yourself a favor and apologize to the children, and adjust your attitude.
I'm sure I will be back to go heavy on references... I expect resistance... but the facts are out there. Unfortunately, some of us spend blood sweat and tears learning about this the hard way, and trying to do something about it. You can read anything you want on the internet, or or watch whatever you want on the TV. Doesn't make it true. So do what you do, believe what you believe, but don't you dare start talking bad acting like this isn't happening... how dare you... I've SEEN this and the aftereffects - don't be naïve.
Dead Serious, even if my grammar is horrible, and I am not the most articulate... do yourself a favor and take a second look into things if you actually care... the trafficking world is HUGE... and it is everywhere
eyebyesickle
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Chalo said:
Here is a documentary that was supposed to air way back in '94... talking about boy prostitution and more up to the white house...coverup coverup
[youtube]AY-F5JoHoho[/youtube]
I don't know what else to tell you. You can read or watch anything... for or against.... could be true... could be false... It's getting worse lately.... thing is... I have life experience dealing with this sort of thing... so... I don't need to read or watch 'evidence'... and as for pizzagate itself...no investigation was conducted... so you are not making much sense to me here. I mean, it sounds good...
nutnspecial
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Nicely said-
I wonder if these two could look @ pgate as only verifiable info and what they would think of it then.
That's the way many of us have and it's a prettyfucking disturbing conglomeration of facts. Seriously wtf
I wonder if these two could look @ pgate as only verifiable info and what they would think of it then.
That's the way many of us have and it's a prettyfucking disturbing conglomeration of facts. Seriously wtf
Chalo
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The problem anymore is not access to information; it's in having the discrimination to choose between solid information and nonsense, plausible suppositions versus implausible ones, documented facts versus unsupported assertions, and trustworthy sources versus suspect ones.
Discriminating the relative values of contradictory pieces of information seems to be what you (eyebyesickle) and nutspecial need to work on.
Discriminating the relative values of contradictory pieces of information seems to be what you (eyebyesickle) and nutspecial need to work on.
eyebyesickle
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Chalo said:
I am willing to intake more information to further my analysis, but seeing as I encountered these operations in the field... this would be futile. I can confirm the existence already, that cannot be undone.
However, you don't seem to be so willing to brief further material... This reply was too fast to have briefed the majority of what I posted, which is new information to you or we wouldn't be having this conversation. You don't have the background for this, obviously... so please pull out. That or go ahead a call me a liar, because all this jibber jabber article posting aside... I told you - I KNOW ABOUT THIS FOR A FACT FROM LIFE EXPERIENCE.
Discriminating the relative value of contradictory information... I have you a rough step by step of how they got ahead of the scandal and skewed the story to something ridiculous... par for the course... you are out of your element and league when you are talking about information and dis/misinformation and the realm of crime/intelligence/politics... This was my world... So try not to take shots at me or nutspecial due to your own shortcomings, please
nutnspecial
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Unintended I guess; this is also a compliment so thankyou. Don't take any side too quickly, searching the facts out.
You (chalo) and others just seem to have a different notion for the catchphrase pgate, while others only attribute verifiable facts to it.
As I said before, there is nothing directly incriminating or necessarilly prosecutable (fbi etc would cert be the judge of that)- and perhaps that makes it a 'jump' to use the popular 'gate' suffix, as everything would be circumstantial to any crime. BBut there is still quite a body of interesting info that may or may not evidence some really real (and whacked) corruption. If nothing else, it's ALOT of coincidence and poor taste, and time will tell that.
In the meantime, watchout for corruption in high places- those there are in some of the best places to pull it off until they are caught due to their own laziness and complacency/brazenness etc.
Chalo
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eyebyesickle said:
Since the first few dozen data points I got on the topic "Pizzagate" were all crackpot/"fake news"/"alternative facts"/bullshit without exception, I think I'm justified in writing off all further information as more of the same.
When I start seeing otherwise from reputable sources (i.e. not y'all), I might look again. But I really don't think I'll have to worry about investing any more time and attention.
eyebyesickle
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Chalo said:
first of all, I don't know who you think y'all is - because I am in a category of my own. if you are too weak to look into children being harmed, you are too weak to call me a liar directly so you wish to claim I am not reputable, and lump me in a 'y'all' category... I posted sources, you refuse to brief. I lived a life that brushed with trafficking and you want to take a shot at my credibility, but you would be too scared to find out the truth about the matter for yourself in person, wouldn't you? So pretend you use better judgement. Real big man. Hiding being that type of reasoning. I have a picture of you clenching your eyes shut and plugging your ears... haha are you even serious man?
you're justified in writing off all further information as more of the same?
- FALLACY. that is how you continue your charade. lie to yourself, not me. I don't care about you, I care about children, and the ripple effect your ignorance may have on others.
- because the first bits of 'news' you saw purposely to lead you to this conclusion. that is called being a sucker. congrats. maybe if you cared about the well-being of children more you would actually look into this. (I love using that, but that is what this is about, and why I am involved - because I care about the wellbeing of children and do all I can to help in these matter... like I said I personally work with trauma therapists and survivors, and that is not where the experience I speak of comes from)
oh, you might look again if you see otherwise from reputable sources? what is a reputable source to you? I can play your little game, I have sources for days... across the board. elite pedophilia? I mean, come on... there are documented court cases of this going on... not only in US - the UK and AUS it is popping off bigtime. Lots have been arrested and this is age old... where and at what time are you living in Chalo? Are you even serious... goodness gracious.
You know nothing about this other than what they fed you to show you it was BS, and you refuse to brief more material. It wouldn't matter if I was reputable, as the material I presented was not from me, other than my written 'testimony' which it would not be up to par for that. I just ranted the truth a little.
Chalo, just because you don't know you joe blow politician likes to play with little boys, doesn't mean it's not true. If you choose to not believe it, doesn't mean it's not true. When we video tape this politician playing with little johnny, and use it as further insurance other than family death threats and the usual blacklisting etc etc... then we have this man in the fold and it sure as hell goes down like that.
Chalo, you don't have to know everything, and you aren't always right. This is about the wellbeing of children, and the existence of organized rings of abuse/trafficking within the realm of the 'elite'. AGAIN, you don't know what you are talking about, and if I wasn't so pissed off at how this same situation goes down, I would feel embarrassed for you. AGAIN, there are 100's of books on the subject, and 1000's of survivors and whistleblowers that have organizations etc. I know you don't want to brief anything... but then perhaps REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE CONVERSATION. The real story doesn't always reach out and slap you in the face from your 'reputable source'. I mean, how naïve are you?
eyebyesickle
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Dauntless said:
? I work with survivors of human trafficking, and trauma specialists, internationally. I have only good intentions. Unfortunately, children are trafficked in almost all areas, across all walks of life... there was a media misdirection/coverup campaign about pizzagate, that is all. I don't understand what is so hard to understand. So you are telling me, that there is no organized child trafficking ring operating with elite/political/legal protection? Let's get that clear, because you seem to be reluctant to actually make a statement, as you mentioned earlier, you never explained the first time. You see, so you are not here about the issue, doing what you accuse me of, when I actually do with outside, as well as IN THE FIELD, regarding this sort of thing. So go eat those words, talking about jim carrey and peewee and grandeur, yet you refuse to talk about the actual subject. You are see-through. No content.
As for you talking about my experience... for the record, it isn't the therapy work I do with survivors. It is WHY I do the therapy work with survivors. You got a big mouth and you talk too much, and your FAA story does not apply to this situation
Dauntless
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Maybe if you behaved better you wouldn't be by yourself all the time. Self aggrandizement is rather isolating.
What a shame to come home from such a long day and see you've been busy spreading yourself around.
Again, no, I was direct to the subject, you're just off in that category of your own and can't figure it out.
The little 'Sick Art' totem of yours is an interesting item for you to be so ready to spread around, given the fantasies you've expressed in this thread. I know, I know, it's a category thing.
e-beach said:
YOU are such a liar. Now THERE is predictable. But it seems you've found a soulmate, there.
eyebyesickle
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yet you refuse to talk about the actual subject...
You're post is just jibber jabber. I'm presenting you with evidence and you take a cheap shot about the pic. I would smack the **** out of you in person - this isn't joking material
So ready to show it? Not really, and I assumed you had at least briefed the material and knew it was involved, but that probably is not true. You don't know the first thing about the facts or even care to review... You real piece of crap. Waste of space. Go ahead make more bad jokes because you have nothing to offer.
You're post is just jibber jabber. I'm presenting you with evidence and you take a cheap shot about the pic. I would smack the **** out of you in person - this isn't joking material
So ready to show it? Not really, and I assumed you had at least briefed the material and knew it was involved, but that probably is not true. You don't know the first thing about the facts or even care to review... You real piece of crap. Waste of space. Go ahead make more bad jokes because you have nothing to offer.
NO personal attacks, please.
Dauntless
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fechter said:
And since THAT is the 'Actual Subject,' there should be nothing left of the psycho for me to comment on, but of course he'll continue. It's only "Jibber Jabber" when you're not intellectually equipped to deal with it. Such as there's no such thing as this "Cheap shot about the pic" when in fact the pic is far too questionable for someone you're pretending to be.
So are YOU ever going to get around to the ACTUAL SUBJECT, which is Mr. Jones acknowledging he was perpetuating fake news and since people like yourself reveal in that you're outraged? Here I've been so spot on with it. Forget the troll symbol, let's just shine the light of day and forget you, stone. I will make the comment that you wanting to just play around and hove your fun with the whole subject of child abuse is a pretty danged sick thing.
Remember in grade school when you went to bully the kids several years younger than you but there was that one where you had to stop when he was around no matter how much smaller he was? Yeah, that's right: It's been awhile, how ya' doin'? I've made a lifetime out of taking down bullies like you, they're not all as easy as you are. But then I wasn't always the gentleman scholar.
eyebyesickle
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Dauntless said:
What are you even on about? I'm not looking to message back and forth bickering. I was here to educate about a topic, but clearly, naysayers are not even willing to brief.
Keep taking shots at me. You do realize that is one of the pics that sparked pizza gate. What? No? That's because you are more concerned with arguing than the truth. What would I have to gain from pretending to have been exposed to the world of trafficking and working with survivors. Seriously. What about this is amusing to you. I'm really trying to understand where you are coming from, which just seems to be someone caught up in an argument. Not an actual discussion.
So you saw Alex Jones (not self employed, cough) spit out some BS like usual and admit it, so the whole thing is fake? I don't think you understand how cover-ups work... You fed right into it.
Again, my posts address the actual issue. What are you on about?
tomjasz
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The boys got their lipstick all smeared again!slacker said:
tomjasz
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Is educating about Pizza Gate lies being true? Did I miss read? I too have worked with abused kids. Many of whom end up chemically dependent. Most actually. But we can't twist facts to further the case. If I misread, I apologize.eyebyesickle said:
eyebyesickle
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tomjasz said:
I'm sure you read what you were looking for. Seems to be what people do...
I worked with kids involved in the sort of thing PIZZAGATE is hiding... organized pedo networks involving 'elite'/political culprits... and it is tied in with a program called MONARCH. I have experience with this EXACT ordeal, not just abused children. This is a very specific phenomena, and you all let the culprits of this organized network dupe you by getting ahead of the story. Look into the actual damn facts people. FACTS. Not what isn't true... what parts ARE TRUE... How do you even intake information? People are crazy to me.
Twisting facts? So, you are going to have to ACTUALLY MENTION SOMETHING. You can't just make a general statement like twisting facts... please show me where, and I will address the issue accordingly. I am serious about this, and can actually discuss. I don't just throw up quote after quote and try to make a funny.
eyebyesickle
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Interesting how this was about child trafficking but you all seem more interested in petty bickering and drama. Look I am one of the worst, but half is because I am an asshole, the other half is because I am always on the run and it is hard to really just rant off and explain this mess. That is frustrating. Also, I get wound up talking about this, and I don't usually type to communicate. Not the life I have lived... but the life I lived DID see trafficking activity, so when you tell me this isn't happening... that's fine... when you tell me this isn't happening and fire back with a cocky attitude and accuse me of fantasizing... It makes me think about looking you up and pounding your head in. I know this energy is better spent explaining... but if you don't want to listen, or read, or are not even willing to intake information, then where are we. And you just keep talking? Put yourself in those shoes. Now, be careful.
Tomjazz, I am glad you work with abused children, that's great. I mentioned working with trafficking survivors with dissociative conditions, because the specific type I consult for are the ones that were abused in a way that is protected by the 'elite'/political/trafficking networks. It is very applicable... and I happen to know about 'pizzagate' specifically, and knew about the issue long before they blasted the fake story, to hide the real story.
Look, if you think 'pizzagate' is fake, the first question I have is - What is pizzagate? To you, it may be a BS news story. You are correct. However, there is more to it. Pizzagate is a fake news story that was released so people would realize the story was fake, and think everything it had to do with was fake as well. Domino effect. Boy who cried wolf. The thing is however, elements of it are very true. Of course children were not being sold from the pizza shop, that would be beyond ridiculous. However... children are being sold all right... and in certain areas it is very common culture and power politics is hush and enabling if not facilitating etc....
I say I have seen this with my own eyes, and people call me grandeur, etc. I am beyond confused here. I am rough around the edges, but due to some horrible things earlier in my life... I try to do what good I can for myself, children, the future... the world... ya know - I try to be a good person.
There are a few things to note here
1) I am arguing, and rude, etc etc (note, I address topics as well as just argue, unlike COUGH some)
2) You saw/read stories about PIZZAGATE that were fake/lies/BS (that were released/directed from an organized network - for a purpose. even the opposing sides etc... most of this is literally a play, a tv show, etc... it is easy to orchestrate and some of you are demonstrating this)
3) The above two seem to have totally diminished certain parties critical thinking and analyzing skills
4) There has been no official investigation
5) There were all sorts of sick pedo images, artwork, social media innuendo etc... involved, and most of you are not even aware of this. Dauntless is trying to talk bad to me about posting that one image to show you what you are dealing with. He is so disturbed by it he wants to make jokes about me, not actually note that it was involved and that some sick stuff may indeed be taking place.
6) Old cases, news reports, documentaries, declassified documents, etc... including eyewitness testimony etc.... this has been going on. A simple google search verifies this 100% and arguing that there are not organized 'elite' pedo rings is foolish. There OBVIOUSLY IS. Not to mention, like I said...
The thing is, the 'elite'/political/protected child trafficking issue popped up again and before it got turned into an investigation, the organized network 'got ahead of the story' which is to tell their version of the story themselves, first. The organized network even controls 'alternative' news sources, such as ones who release BS stories and later apologize... I don't even know the story that Alex Jones told, and I didn't see his apology. Why? Simple - I don't watch his show. He talks about smidges of truth and throws a bunch of BS in with it, so when you debunk the BS, the rest is fake too. That is just one strategy... this is the conglomerate of world intelligence agencies you are dealing with.
I like talking a little **** now and then, but this is getting old... I am more concerned about opening people's eyes to the reality of child trafficking, and programming of dissociative states by the deep state which IS protected by national security - this whole organized network is tied into MONARCH, which is the program that is protected under national security. That is what I do with a lot of my free time, lobby for another look into the program. Hasn't happened since '95...
Here is a couple video clips of survivor testimony of child abuse and programming. This is a committee hearing concerning the predecessor to MONARCH. Like I said, the protected trafficking rings process the children, and ones that end up with suitable dissociative states are groomed further in the program. All the while, the children are being used as bait for blackmail against anyone and everyone... this is how it goes... People can say whatever they want, but I come from a background involving MONARCH... so really, if you don't know what you are talking about, maybe back off. This isn't about arguing... this is about helping children that get raped, trafficking, tortured, and then have assholes on the internet say it doesn't happen because they saw a stupid news story that was fake, so it is all fake...
They call it the presidents advisory committee on human radiation experiments, but if you listen to the content, there was obviously more to the program... Like I said, nowadays, they process groups of children through trafficking rings, so they develop dissociative states, as opposed to these individual testimony that was still in experimenting phase...
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See they were doing this way back, but once they got the formula down... it was all over... we are deep off in this and the organized trafficking rings are involved. Again... this is tied up and protected by national security, the best you can do about this whole thing is petition for another BS committee hearing...
Tomjazz, I am glad you work with abused children, that's great. I mentioned working with trafficking survivors with dissociative conditions, because the specific type I consult for are the ones that were abused in a way that is protected by the 'elite'/political/trafficking networks. It is very applicable... and I happen to know about 'pizzagate' specifically, and knew about the issue long before they blasted the fake story, to hide the real story.
Look, if you think 'pizzagate' is fake, the first question I have is - What is pizzagate? To you, it may be a BS news story. You are correct. However, there is more to it. Pizzagate is a fake news story that was released so people would realize the story was fake, and think everything it had to do with was fake as well. Domino effect. Boy who cried wolf. The thing is however, elements of it are very true. Of course children were not being sold from the pizza shop, that would be beyond ridiculous. However... children are being sold all right... and in certain areas it is very common culture and power politics is hush and enabling if not facilitating etc....
I say I have seen this with my own eyes, and people call me grandeur, etc. I am beyond confused here. I am rough around the edges, but due to some horrible things earlier in my life... I try to do what good I can for myself, children, the future... the world... ya know - I try to be a good person.
There are a few things to note here
1) I am arguing, and rude, etc etc (note, I address topics as well as just argue, unlike COUGH some)
2) You saw/read stories about PIZZAGATE that were fake/lies/BS (that were released/directed from an organized network - for a purpose. even the opposing sides etc... most of this is literally a play, a tv show, etc... it is easy to orchestrate and some of you are demonstrating this)
3) The above two seem to have totally diminished certain parties critical thinking and analyzing skills
4) There has been no official investigation
5) There were all sorts of sick pedo images, artwork, social media innuendo etc... involved, and most of you are not even aware of this. Dauntless is trying to talk bad to me about posting that one image to show you what you are dealing with. He is so disturbed by it he wants to make jokes about me, not actually note that it was involved and that some sick stuff may indeed be taking place.
6) Old cases, news reports, documentaries, declassified documents, etc... including eyewitness testimony etc.... this has been going on. A simple google search verifies this 100% and arguing that there are not organized 'elite' pedo rings is foolish. There OBVIOUSLY IS. Not to mention, like I said...
The thing is, the 'elite'/political/protected child trafficking issue popped up again and before it got turned into an investigation, the organized network 'got ahead of the story' which is to tell their version of the story themselves, first. The organized network even controls 'alternative' news sources, such as ones who release BS stories and later apologize... I don't even know the story that Alex Jones told, and I didn't see his apology. Why? Simple - I don't watch his show. He talks about smidges of truth and throws a bunch of BS in with it, so when you debunk the BS, the rest is fake too. That is just one strategy... this is the conglomerate of world intelligence agencies you are dealing with.
I like talking a little **** now and then, but this is getting old... I am more concerned about opening people's eyes to the reality of child trafficking, and programming of dissociative states by the deep state which IS protected by national security - this whole organized network is tied into MONARCH, which is the program that is protected under national security. That is what I do with a lot of my free time, lobby for another look into the program. Hasn't happened since '95...
Here is a couple video clips of survivor testimony of child abuse and programming. This is a committee hearing concerning the predecessor to MONARCH. Like I said, the protected trafficking rings process the children, and ones that end up with suitable dissociative states are groomed further in the program. All the while, the children are being used as bait for blackmail against anyone and everyone... this is how it goes... People can say whatever they want, but I come from a background involving MONARCH... so really, if you don't know what you are talking about, maybe back off. This isn't about arguing... this is about helping children that get raped, trafficking, tortured, and then have assholes on the internet say it doesn't happen because they saw a stupid news story that was fake, so it is all fake...
They call it the presidents advisory committee on human radiation experiments, but if you listen to the content, there was obviously more to the program... Like I said, nowadays, they process groups of children through trafficking rings, so they develop dissociative states, as opposed to these individual testimony that was still in experimenting phase...
[youtube]RRkrgDQqVXc[/youtube]
[youtube]het0FIAtH3M[/youtube]
See they were doing this way back, but once they got the formula down... it was all over... we are deep off in this and the organized trafficking rings are involved. Again... this is tied up and protected by national security, the best you can do about this whole thing is petition for another BS committee hearing...
Maybe you should consider why you threaten to look people up and hurt them? I imagine you have anger issue's that need to be dealt with. Please consider counseling as it might negate some of your violent thing's you are feeling. Good luck and good day.
eyebyesickle
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slacker said:
You misread...
I stated 'i think about' and ended with a better way to spend my energy. The being careful bit was if you were in my shoes...
And I mean, when we are all throwing out BS about child trafficking and abuse anyway why not throw out some more edgy material
I don't think anyone feels threatened I was explaining the situation and how someone that has been in the line of duty and injured from it... then to have some random guy over the internet say you are fantasizing... Get real. I did service and tried to blow the whistle when the laws passed to protect contractors that blow the whistle. Took me to the trauma unit (ICU). So yeah, it makes me angry to hear people talk smack about something they know nothing off... But I fancy myself a decent person, so I prefer to spend my energy in a more positive productive matter to help people
when you tell me this isn't happening and fire back with a cocky attitude and accuse me of fantasizing... It makes me think about looking you up and pounding your head in. Need i say more as these are your word's. best for you to learn how to control your emotion's. Just saying.
eyebyesickle
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Yeah I was editing that post I explained it hahaha. For the record, 'think about' hahaha. I know you want to make a big deal over words on the internet, but get real, I mean no harm, and also, think about what is going on from different perspectives here. You guys don't get it because you have not bled fighting for this exact cause... This is serious business. I mean no harm and sorry if anyone thought so. But it does piss me off where I would think a off violence, yes, out of.anger and frustration. So doc, how bad of a person am I.. hahaha... I told you, I'll spend my energy in a more productive manner chill, chill
You guys live in a different world than me.
In real life, would you be talking like this? (Everyone). I actually would probably be more articulate haha but the content is the same. We can bicker over semantics but honestly, I don't care. You all know why I am here, and no one is telling someone they don't know to their face that they are living a fantasy during this same conversation and perhaps I like to 'keep it real'(haha) but I would walk up to this conversation in real life and drop them bomb at a party or a social gathering or interupt a damn speech at a college. I don't give a shit. If you listen, you would learn
Forgive these mobile posts ha
chill, chillYou guys live in a different world than me.
In real life, would you be talking like this? (Everyone). I actually would probably be more articulate haha but the content is the same. We can bicker over semantics but honestly, I don't care. You all know why I am here, and no one is telling someone they don't know to their face that they are living a fantasy during this same conversation and perhaps I like to 'keep it real'(haha) but I would walk up to this conversation in real life and drop them bomb at a party or a social gathering or interupt a damn speech at a college. I don't give a shit. If you listen, you would learn
Forgive these mobile posts ha
