Have you experienced bad vibes from traditional bikers?

[eSurfer]

I've been called a cheater a few times while shredding in the hills from other non E-MTB bikers. My current reply is "Do you always make fun of handicap people?" That shuts them right up.

Are you handicapped, or are you just yanking their chains? (accidental pun)

 

[robohead]

I've been called a cheater a few times while shredding in the hills from other non E-MTB bikers. My current reply is "Do you always make fun of handicap people?" That shuts them right up.

Are you handicapped, or are you just yanking their chains? (accidental pun)

I could not ride some of the stuff I have if it were for not electric. But mostly yes. I'm full of *it, but I get "my" ride on!

 

[tiny_n_terrible]

I easily match Mr spandex's performance while Ghost Pedaling Backwards. Usually traveling up hill, then I go around the block and do it again.

 

[tiny_n_terrible]

Oh yes. First it happened when i started to fly RC with e-motors ten years ago. Lots of weird comments. I learned that many people that fly RC are not in it because of flying, but just because of IC engines they love. Flying is just a sidetrack to be able to tinker with IC engine.
Plenty of passive-aggressive hate because of e-biking, yeah. Usually people try to restrain themselves, they don"t want open conflict, but it sparks through the surface occasionally.
They do hate us, but they try to stay civilized and bite their tonque. I call police if you overtake me! You are a criminal if you overtake me! When you turn your back it starts.
One fella shouted that he calls police every time e-biker overtakes him. He was serious. Our cops don"t give a damn of that kind of calls, i can only imagine what kind of answers he gets.
It"s really crazy sometimes. Holy pecking order and the crushing humiliation when someone overtakes you. I don"t feel that. MUT is not a racetrack for me.
Ethics of sport lie very deep in cycling. It"s about ethics of sport, who overtakes who and who wins who. I am not part of that game, don"t want to be.
Man, i"m just cruisin"
E-Bikers definitely are not car people around here. Trad cyclists are usually suburbian conservative upper middle class, two cars, house people. Carbon race bike or high-end mtb.
Trad cyclists make a great effort often not look poor. They want really separate themselves from those sunday commuters.
E-bikers are more varied crew, live around downtown on rent, no car, often lightly disabled, green, etc.

I do Radio Control flying, Bush the Decider killed the economy here. Every thing closed there are blocks ,and blocks of empty shopping centers. All the bike shops except the big box stores .
All the hobbyshops. Gone. I did not feel like paying the premium for glo fuel. Tried a big weed eater powered airplane. Transportation is too much trouble.
I fly electric powered foamboard ,not balsa, planes because I can buy foamboard locally.

https://www.youtube.com/user/ExperimentalAirlines


Life goes on.
People around here still have plastic yard sighs for McCain / Palin and Rommney / Roachead .

 

[eSurfer]

Oh yes. First it happened when i started to fly RC with e-motors ten years ago. Lots of weird comments. I learned that many people that fly RC are not in it because of flying, but just because of IC engines they love. Flying is just a sidetrack to be able to tinker with IC engine.
Plenty of passive-aggressive hate because of e-biking, yeah. Usually people try to restrain themselves, they don"t want open conflict, but it sparks through the surface occasionally.
They do hate us, but they try to stay civilized and bite their tonque. I call police if you overtake me! You are a criminal if you overtake me! When you turn your back it starts.
One fella shouted that he calls police every time e-biker overtakes him. He was serious. Our cops don"t give a damn of that kind of calls, i can only imagine what kind of answers he gets.
It"s really crazy sometimes. Holy pecking order and the crushing humiliation when someone overtakes you. I don"t feel that. MUT is not a racetrack for me.
Ethics of sport lie very deep in cycling. It"s about ethics of sport, who overtakes who and who wins who. I am not part of that game, don"t want to be.
Man, i"m just cruisin"
E-Bikers definitely are not car people around here. Trad cyclists are usually suburbian conservative upper middle class, two cars, house people. Carbon race bike or high-end mtb.
Trad cyclists make a great effort often not look poor. They want really separate themselves from those sunday commuters.
E-bikers are more varied crew, live around downtown on rent, no car, often lightly disabled, green, etc.

I do Radio Control flying, Bush the Decider killed the economy here. Every thing closed there are blocks ,and blocks of empty shopping centers. All the bike shops except the big box stores .
All the hobbyshops. Gone. I did not feel like paying the premium for glo fuel. Tried a big weed eater powered airplane. Transportation is too much trouble.
I fly electric powered foamboard ,not balsa, planes because I can buy foamboard locally.

https://www.youtube.com/user/ExperimentalAirlines


Life goes on.
People around here still have plastic yard sighs for McCain / Palin and Rommney / Roachead .

Very cool canard FPV planes. I have a bunch of RC planes hanging in my garage that haven't flown in years and your vid makes me want to get them flying again.

I'm curious about the economic issues in your area; what part of the US are you in? Midwest somewhere? Sounds pretty bad.

 

[charlied63]

I sometimes get static from the lycra crowd, but I always did. I put quite a few miles on my Bianchi cross bike and get static for my baggy shorts and sleeveless tee shirt, up until I drop them. I do admit passing the Tour De France crowd on my electrified Surly Troll is great fun...especially in a good stiff head wind..

 

[Grizzl-E]

Bikers are elitist just like so many hobby fanatics. But they tend to be slightly less jerkish than surfers. Those guys are just mean! Course the bikers may just be too tired to put a lot of effort into their angst.

 

[eSurfer]

Bikers are elitist just like so many hobby fanatics. But they tend to be slightly less jerkish than surfers. Those guys are just mean! Course the bikers may just be too tired to put a lot of effort into their angst.

Yes. When I show up pulling a surfing SUP on my eBike, I'm doubly damned. Lycras hate me and surfers hate me. Kind of fun, actually.

 

[speedmd]

Bikers are elitist just like so many hobby fanatics. But they tend to be slightly less jerkish than surfers. Those guys are just mean! Course the bikers may just be too tired to put a lot of effort into their angst.

Yes. When I show up pulling a surfing SUP on my eBike, I'm doubly damned. Lycras hate me and surfers hate me. Kind of fun, actually.

Do they call you BIG DICK at the beach. Just add a TRUMP sticker on the bike and board and you will be complete. LMAO

 

[The fingers]

You really have to watch out for bodysurfers who pedal to the beach. You'll know who they are by the Ben Franklin invention hanging from the handlebars, ie: swim fins; commonly called "flippers". :lol:

 

[Eskimo]

Yesterday. MTB-lycra comes to talk...
- You overtook me there (is this an argument?)
- Yes. It was steep hill, this is quite heavy thing and i have to pull hard before the hills
- You went by so fast.. (not really at that point, maybe 10mph)

Only reason why he came to talk to me was his hurt ego. He was not curious but critical.
It"s just hilarious. I always forget those magic words "i am not racing" when i need them.
We have now this new 1kw law, my velo is now insured, but many cyclists still don"t know that here is this new law.
Not a "bad vibe"-situation really, but slightly tense. Be nice...

 

[WoodlandHills]

I think the mountain bikers have more of an attitude issue than the road riders. The roadies are used to sharing their space with all sorts of vehicles and there are no road bike exclusive trails or meeting up spots.But the MTBers only see walkers or horses on "their" trails and seem to be resentful that you are in "their space", thus all the "you're cheating" comments. In the past the only way into the places the MTBers congregate was by putting in serious physical effort, but in 2016 things are very different. It's a big change and as we all know, most people do not handle change well! Add in defense of a self-image and personal status within the group based upon an ability to ascend steep hills that is threatened/destroyed by ebikers and ebikes and you have a recipe for hurt feelings and conflict.

Having said all that, my personal feelings are that as long as I am legal (and I am) and on public property then screw them if my mere presence on an ebike offends them! I have as much right to be here as they do and I intend to exercise those rights just as they do.

 

[heavylildude]

I always refer ebikes are nowadays motorized bicycles/modern day boardtracker, I understood the limit on few countries regarding electric bikes, and fortunately I live in a country without one

Speaking of modern day motorized bicycles, I think this 'genre' is a lot more less intimidating to our fella in lycra, on the other hand heavily attract custom motorcycle fans instead..

I did experience that 'youre cheating' look from road bike cyclist (with lycra) on my old setup, regular bicycle with mounted motor.. but interestingly their reaction is vice versa when I stop beside them on red light riding my custom build electric boardtracker while wearing a perfecto style leather and simpson helmet

 

[LockH]

my custom build electric boardtracker while wearing a perfecto style leather and simpson helmet

8) Oh. Pics please? (Gotta chuck it in the ES thread "The Well Dressed Ebiker". Hehe)

 

[tomzgreat]

In my area, Ontario-Chino California, there are so few bikers I rarely run into one.
And I've only seen one electric bike one time in the past 3 years. So just about no one is riding ebike out
here. May be because the bike Lanes are just about nonexistant and not well maintained.

The other day I was riding and a young biker, who seemed to be the type biking for transportation,
was very nice and questioned me about my bike. You could tell he thought it was neat.

I have a pretty unique bike.
A motobecane mountain bike dual suspension with Sissy Bar style handles so I can ride upright.
It's bright yellow and I get a lot of positive attention. Since the battery and controller are in a back
saddle bag. It's not as noticeable as an a ebike as the triangle setups.

Sometimes younger guys in cars will give me a thumbs up.

Never had a negative response from a biker, but again I don't see too many.

 

[eSurfer]

In my area, Ontario-Chino California, there are so few bikers I rarely run into one.
And I've only seen one electric bike one time in the past 3 years. So just about no one is riding ebike out
here. May be because the bike Lanes are just about nonexistant and not well maintained.

The other day I was riding and a young biker, who seemed to be the type biking for transportation,
was very nice and questioned me about my bike. You could tell he thought it was neat.

I have a pretty unique bike.
A motobecane mountain bike dual suspension with Sissy Bar style handles so I can ride upright.
It's bright yellow and I get a lot of positive attention. Since the battery and controller are in a back
saddle bag. It's not as noticeable as an a ebike as the triangle setups.

Sometimes younger guys in cars will give me a thumbs up.

Never had a negative response from a biker, but again I don't see too many.

I would love to see that bike, Tomz. Can you post pic or two? Or, is it already somewhere here on another thread?

 

[tomzgreat]

In my area, Ontario-Chino California, there are so few bikers I rarely run into one.
And I've only seen one electric bike one time in the past 3 years. So just about no one is riding ebike out
here. May be because the bike Lanes are just about nonexistant and not well maintained.

The other day I was riding and a young biker, who seemed to be the type biking for transportation,
was very nice and questioned me about my bike. You could tell he thought it was neat.

I have a pretty unique bike.
A motobecane mountain bike dual suspension with Sissy Bar style handles so I can ride upright.
It's bright yellow and I get a lot of positive attention. Since the battery and controller are in a back
saddle bag. It's not as noticeable as an a ebike as the triangle setups.

Sometimes younger guys in cars will give me a thumbs up.

Never had a negative response from a biker, but again I don't see too many.

I would love to see that bike, Tomz. Can you post pic or two? Or, is it already somewhere here on another thread?

Here is a picture of the bike.
Some unique features is that it's dual suspension MTB with Sissy Bars.
So I ride very comfortably in upright position instead of Hunched over.

In addition I have dual disc brakes that are controlled by just one lever. Very ergonomic
the dual dic break lever is on the same side as the thumb throttle, so you can't accelerate and brake at the same time

What bike isn't complete without the Airsoundz Horn and dual LED cheapo Chinese lights.
Be seen be heard!

 

[eSurfer]

In my area, Ontario-Chino California, there are so few bikers I rarely run into one.
And I've only seen one electric bike one time in the past 3 years. So just about no one is riding ebike out
here. May be because the bike Lanes are just about nonexistant and not well maintained.

The other day I was riding and a young biker, who seemed to be the type biking for transportation,
was very nice and questioned me about my bike. You could tell he thought it was neat.

I have a pretty unique bike.
A motobecane mountain bike dual suspension with Sissy Bar style handles so I can ride upright.
It's bright yellow and I get a lot of positive attention. Since the battery and controller are in a back
saddle bag. It's not as noticeable as an a ebike as the triangle setups.

Sometimes younger guys in cars will give me a thumbs up.

Never had a negative response from a biker, but again I don't see too many.

I would love to see that bike, Tomz. Can you post pic or two? Or, is it already somewhere here on another thread?

Here is a picture of the bike.
Some unique features is that it's dual suspension MTB with Sissy Bars.
So I ride very comfortably in upright position instead of Hunched over.

In addition I have dual disc brakes that are controlled by just one lever. Very ergonomic
the dual dic break lever is on the same side as the thumb throttle, so you can't accelerate and brake at the same time

What bike isn't complete without the Airsoundz Horn and dual LED cheapo Chinese lights.
Be seen be heard!

Nice! Looks like a comfortable ride. I have an old, 2002, Intense Tracer, full-suspension, mountain bike that I am considering doing something similar to that on. Monkey bars and all. It's good to see that it works out and looks pretty good. Thanks.

 

[tomzgreat]

It's a comfortable ride, but slightly unbalanced. Too much weight on the back. Also the suspension cushions me but not the rack on the back. The truth if I had to do it again, I'd do a triangle style with the battery in the center.

It does look good though.

 

[eSurfer]

Yeah, my bike is a conversion with a battery rack on the back too and tail heavy to the max. I think being tail heavy is normal with that setup. Thanks for that warning, I will heed if, and when, I covert the Tracer.

 

[2old]

I have a rear hub with an inexpensive front rack for the battery (look at Nashbar, about $12); seems to balance the weight pretty nicely. Picture in a day or so, but you get the idea. Not too stealth though since the motor is 1000w, DD.

 

[eSurfer]

I have a rear hub with an inexpensive front rack for the battery (look at Nashbar, about $12); seems to balance the weight pretty nicely. Picture in a day or so, but you get the idea. Not too stealth though since the motor is 1000w, DD.

I'll look forward to a pic, thanks.

 

[Chalo]

I have a rear hub with an inexpensive front rack for the battery (look at Nashbar, about $12); seems to balance the weight pretty nicely. Picture in a day or so, but you get the idea. Not too stealth though since the motor is 1000w, DD.

I'll look forward to a pic, thanks.

This is the one that costs $15 at my shop. I've installed a ton of them and they work very well for bikes that have cantilever brake studs. In most cases, I attach a basket or a tray to the rack top. They're stronger than they look.