IEA Chief Economist-Oil SuppliesRunningOutFast, PeakOilSoon

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IEA Chief Economist Says Oil Supplies Running Out Fast, Peak Oil Soon

Predicting exactly when peak oil will hit is somewhat like reading tea leaves -- transparency is reserve data is so lacking that opacity is a better descriptor and the current economic downturn doesn't help -- But one thing is beyond a doubt: Oil fields are becoming depleted much faster than thought just two years ago and the end of cheap oil is decidedly over. That's the word in The Independent from International Energy Agency chief economist Dr Fatih Birol:

Birol told The Independent that peak oil will to be upon us in 10 years and that "we will have to leave oil before it leaves us" in order to avoid a catastrophic energy crunch.

This is based on the first detailed assessment of over 800 oil fields across the globe that found most of the big fields are already past peak -- something independent peak oil researchers have long said -- and that the rate of decline in oil production, at 6.7% per year, is double that which was calculated in 2007.

We Need Four New Saudi Arabia's to Maintain Current Demand
To illustrate what that means, Dr Birol said that by 2030 if oil demand just remained steady we would have to find the equivalent of four Saudi Arabia's worth of oil; if demand increases as the IEA predicts, that goes up to six.

Read more of Dr Birol's statements: The Independent:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/warning-oil-supplies-are-running-out-fast-1766585.html

In an interview with The Independent, Dr Birol said that the public and many governments appeared to be oblivious to the fact that the oil on which modern civilisation depends is running out far faster than previously predicted and that global production is likely to peak in about 10 years – at least a decade earlier than most governments had estimated.

But the first detailed assessment of more than 800 oil fields in the world, covering three quarters of global reserves, has found that most of the biggest fields have already peaked and that the rate of decline in oil production is now running at nearly twice the pace as calculated just two years ago. On top of this, there is a problem of chronic under-investment by oil-producing countries, a feature that is set to result in an "oil crunch" within the next five years which will jeopardise any hope of a recovery from the present global economic recession, he said.

In a stark warning to Britain and the other Western powers, Dr Birol said that the market power of the very few oil-producing countries that hold substantial reserves of oil – mostly in the Middle East – would increase rapidly as the oil crisis begins to grip after 2010.

"One day we will run out of oil, it is not today or tomorrow, but one day we will run out of oil and we have to leave oil before oil leaves us, and we have to prepare ourselves for that day," Dr Birol said. "The earlier we start, the better, because all of our economic and social system is based on oil, so to change from that will take a lot of time and a lot of money and we should take this issue very seriously," he said.

"The market power of the very few oil-producing countries, mainly in the Middle East, will increase very quickly. They already have about 40 per cent share of the oil market and this will increase much more strongly in the future," he said.

There is now a real risk of a crunch in the oil supply after next year when demand picks up because not enough is being done to build up new supplies of oil to compensate for the rapid decline in existing fields.

The IEA estimates that the decline in oil production in existing fields is now running at 6.7 per cent a year compared to the 3.7 per cent decline it had estimated in 2007, which it now acknowledges to be wrong.

"If we see a tightness of the markets, people in the street will see it in terms of higher prices, much higher than we see now. It will have an impact on the economy, definitely, especially if we see this tightness in the markets in the next few years," Dr Birol said.

"It will be especially important because the global economy will still be very fragile, very vulnerable. Many people think there will be a recovery in a few years' time but it will be a slow recovery and a fragile recovery and we will have the risk that the recovery will be strangled with higher oil prices," he told The Independent.

In its first-ever assessment of the world's major oil fields, the IEA concluded that the global energy system was at a crossroads and that consumption of oil was "patently unsustainable", with expected demand far outstripping supply.

Oil production has already peaked in non-Opec countries and the era of cheap oil has come to an end, it warned.

In most fields, oil production has now peaked, which means that other sources of supply have to be found to meet existing demand.

Even if demand remained steady, the world would have to find the equivalent of four Saudi Arabias to maintain production, and six Saudi Arabias if it is to keep up with the expected increase in demand between now and 2030, Dr Birol said.

"It's a big challenge in terms of the geology, in terms of the investment and in terms of the geopolitics. So this is a big risk and it's mainly because of the rates of the declining oil fields," he said.

"Many governments now are more and more aware that at least the day of cheap and easy oil is over... [however] I'm not very optimistic about governments being aware of the difficulties we may face in the oil supply," he said.

Environmentalists fear that as supplies of conventional oil run out, governments will be forced to exploit even dirtier alternatives, such as the massive reserves of tar sands in Alberta, Canada, which would be immensely damaging to the environment because of the amount of energy needed to recover a barrel of tar-sand oil compared to the energy needed to collect the same amount of crude oil.

"Just because oil is running out faster than we have collectively assumed, does not mean the pressure is off on climate change," said Jeremy Leggett, a former oil-industry consultant and now a green entrepreneur with Solar Century.

"Shell and others want to turn to tar, and extract oil from coal. But these are very carbon-intensive processes, and will deepen the climate problem," Dr Leggett said.

"What we need to do is accelerate the mobilisation of renewables, energy efficiency and alternative transport.

"We have to do this for global warming reasons anyway, but the imminent energy crisis redoubles the imperative," he said.

Oil: An unclear future

*Why is oil so important as an energy source?
Crude oil has been critical for economic development and the smooth functioning of almost every aspect of society. Agriculture and food production is heavily dependent on oil for fuel and fertilisers. In the US, for instance, it takes the direct and indirect use of about six barrels of oil to raise one beef steer. It is the basis of most transport systems. Oil is also crucial to the drugs and chemicals industries and is a strategic asset for the military.

*How are oil reserves estimated?
The amount of oil recoverable is always going to be an assessment subject to the vagaries of economics – which determines the price of the oil and whether it is worth the costs of pumping it out –and technology, which determines how easy it is to discover and recover. Probable reserves have a better than 50 per cent chance of getting oil out. Possible reserves have less than 50 per cent chance.

*Why is there such disagreement over oil reserves?
All numbers tend to be informed estimates. Different experts make different assumptions so it is understandable that they can come to different conclusions. Some countries see the size of their oilfields as a national security issue and do not want to provide accurate information. Another problem concerns how fast oil production is declining in fields that are past their peak production. The rate of decline can vary from field to field and this affects calculations on the size of the reserves. A further factor is the expected size of future demand for oil.

*What is "peak oil" and when will it be reached?
This is the point when the maximum rate at which oil is extracted reaches a peak because of technical and geological constraints, with global production going into decline from then on. The UK Government, along with many other governments, has believed that peak oil will not occur until well into the 21st Century, at least not until after 2030. The International Energy Agency believes peak oil will come perhaps by 2020. But it also believes that we are heading for an even earlier "oil crunch" because demand after 2010 is likely to exceed dwindling supplies.

*With global warming, why should we be worried about peak oil?
There are large reserves of non-conventional oil, such as the tar sands of Canada. But this oil is dirty and will produce vast amounts of carbon dioxide which will make a nonsense of any climate change agreement. Another problem concerns how fast oil production is declining in fields that are past their peak production. The rate of decline can vary from field to field and this affects calculations on the size of the reserves. If we are not adequately prepared for peak oil, global warming could become far worse than expected.

Steve Connor, Science Editor
 
California which is going bankrupt quick just turned down the opportunity to get like a billion and a half dollars a year from leases off the Santa Barbra coast. What a bunch of idiots, yeah, lets just lay off ten thousand workers instead of leasing out the oil rights. Gotta keep those environmentalist happy at any cost.

Deron.
 
How is all the electric cars coming out going to affect "Peak Oil"?

I know electric cars in our area are going to be recharged off of power from natural gas. Coal fired plants will be recharging a lot of electric cars in other areas.

Nissan has their "Leaf" coming to a showroom near you by the end of the year. Mini has one in the works, I bet within the next couple of years, every manufacturer will have their own version of a all electric car on a showroom floor.

If people take to EV's how long will it take before most cars on the road will not be using Oil anymore?

Deron.
 
Electric cars just aren't going to be a major factor until they have ranges well over 100 kilometers. 200 kilometers would be ideal. That's about 120miles.

Plug in hybrids show promise though. Electric range of 20-40km, then using algae biodiesel or something.

The problem is that all of these technologies are still in development. Then we're talking about 20 years to get them mainstream. If peak oil hits before, it's going to be an interesting few years. No one would be spared. Even if you're carfree, the economic downturn would still get you directly or indirectly.
 
OneWayTraffic said:
Electric cars just aren't going to be a major factor until they have ranges well over 100 kilometers. 200 kilometers would be ideal. That's about 120miles.

Plug in hybrids show promise though. Electric range of 20-40km, then using algae biodiesel or something.

The problem is that all of these technologies are still in development. Then we're talking about 20 years to get them mainstream. If peak oil hits before, it's going to be an interesting few years. No one would be spared. Even if you're carfree, the economic downturn would still get you directly or indirectly.

I bet you as the E-cars start to come out in large numbers, expect to see gas prices drop. The oil companies/countries are not going to want to lose their customers, they might even try to kill the E-cars off through politics or by flooding the market with cheap fuel right at a critical time when the E-cars are trying to get a foot-hold.

Deron.
 
The weak point in your theory Deron, is that the oil exporting nations have a surplus to dump onto the market. I understand that this is not really the case currently. Maybe a few do, but not nearly as much as people might think. This isn't the 70's again. The balance between supply and demand is much much tighter, reducing the ability for countries to push the price downwards with increased supply.
 
Well they are holding back right now to drive prices up, OPEC has been wanting prices in the range of $80.00.

If a significant amount of EV's start to enter the market, what are the oil producers going to do to keep them in the money? They can go out of business, find new buyers, drop their prices or? If the current administration had it their way, everyone would be driving a EV right now. There is tremendous pressure to get the ICE off the market, if this push keeps up, EV's are going to be in our future real soon. They want a pollution free vehicle real bad and the pressure to get one in every ones driveway is just going to increase. Bye Bye oil burners.

Deron.
 
It my understanding that the experts can't even agree on what constitutes peak Oil. There was a show on the discovery channel a few months back that explained Peak Oil as the point were we have used half of the Avalible resorces. By there accounting, we hit that point in 2006 and will be in decline from now on, although very slowly.

That might not be accurate, but we can't escape the fact that we are running out and faster each year.
Dispite aall the advances in electrics and power generation, unless someone invents a cheap, safe, and reliable renewable power source or storage system with the power density of Oil, we're all going to have to learn to live with less
 
I just heard one reason why we do not have more nuclear, they were talking about putting in a new cooling system in the plants here in California. Total of a measly 5.6 billion dollars for two different plants! What the hell is wrong with the current one? Why so dam much money? To save some fish!

Here is a article on the Oceanside plant, the other plant is the Diablo Cayon.

http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/sdcounty/article_db1269f7-e702-5330-9b50-dd9aa5a5f2e5.html

I guess we will be burning oil for a long time to come.

Deron.
 
So this in the news tonight.

U.S. refineries bought millions of dollars worth of oil stolen from Mexican government pipelines and smuggled across the border, the U.S. Justice Department told The Associated Press – illegal operations now led by Mexican drug cartels expanding their reach.

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/aug/10/lt-drug-war-stolen-oil-081009/?world/mexico&zIndex=147036

I wonder how much electricity is stolen, and I do not mean the odd guy bypassing the meter, I talking big time transfers of power and someone pocketing the profits from the theft?

Maybe "Peak Oil" is just a shame they are going to use on us to raise oil prices. "Oh, we have so little oil, need to charge more".

Deron.
 
Drunkskunk said:
It my understanding that the experts can't even agree on what constitutes peak Oil.
The experts are very clear about what constitutes peak oil, but it's a complex issue so almost everyone else gets it wrong.
Drunkskunk said:
There was a show on the discovery channel a few months back that explained Peak Oil as the point were we have used half of the Avalible resorces. By there accounting, we hit that point in 2006 and will be in decline from now on, although very slowly.
You've almost got it. It's not when we've used half the available resources, it's when we hit the peak in production. Right now, we're pumping it out of the ground faster than we ever have before, and it's still just barely fast enough to meet demand. Also, Peak oil doesn't refer to oil in general, it refers specifically to light sweet crude oil. Light, meaning it's thin and we can just pump it out of the ground with relatively little effort or expense. Sweet means it's not heavily contaminated with sulfur or other unwanted chemicals. It's the cheap stuff. We are in no danger of running out of heavier grades of oil, but they are more expensive to refine and often MUCH more expensive to extract. Light sweet crude is found in porous rock, like a big underground sponge. The more we pump out, the slower it comes out. There may be trillions of barrels left but they're useless to us if we can't get them out of the ground as fast as we need it. The experts expect the price of a barrel of oil to eventually stabilize around $80 per barrel when we're getting more of our oil from tar sands, oil shale, etc.The big problem isn't that we're going to run out anytime soon, it's that when production can no longer meet demand, the price of oil will become very volatile and it will cause a lot of economic disruption. And those other sources of oil are much more energy intensive to produce, and cause far worse environmental impacts than light sweet crude production.

Drunkskunk said:
That might not be accurate, but we can't escape the fact that we are running out and faster each year. Dispite aall the advances in electrics and power generation, unless someone invents a cheap, safe, and reliable renewable power source or storage system with the power density of Oil, we're all going to have to learn to live with less
That's all too true.
 
So how long will the "Peak Oil" myth last with cars like this coming out?

WARREN, Mich. — General Motors said Tuesday its Chevrolet Volt electric car could get 230 mpg in city driving, making it the first American vehicle to achieve triple-digit fuel economy if that figure is confirmed by federal regulators.

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/aug/11/us-gm-volt-mileage-081109/?business&zIndex=147451

And the Nissan Leaf uses no oil!

Deron.
 
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