oldspicejet
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Is Ampedbikes and Ebikekits selling the same DD front motor? amped is listing it as 500-750w while ebikekits is at 500-1000w, someone on here mentioned that they sell the same hubs.
Is Ampedbikes and Ebikekits selling the same DD motor?
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motomech
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Well, the geared motor is the same, sure of that. The DD motor looks the same but could have a different winding.
Controllers are different, as well as some of the incidentials[connectors, etc.].
Controllers are different, as well as some of the incidentials[connectors, etc.].
oldspicejet
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I'm asking cause i can just go pick up the Amped since I'm in LA but I rather get the better DD motor.
motomech
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oldspicejet said:
Well, I'm not sure the DD moor is better, just different
mr.electric
10 kW
They are both 9c motors. 3 or 4 different windings are available on the 9c. I would guess both companies offer a mid range winding. I have never ordered from Amped but I have ordered enough kits from Ebike kit to make it worthwhile for me to just go ahead and become a dealer.
The customer service is awesome. Shipping is always about $25 to get the box here to San Francisco.
In the box is:
a built wheel with freewheel (choose from 700c, 26, 24, 20), a thumb AND twist throttle, ebrake levers, sensorless 20 amp infineon controller, disk brake spacer( you may or may not need this), universal torque arm, hardware.
Amped bikes seems to offer the same motor and controller $80 cheaper but the plugs on the controller are garbage. Ask anyone here on ES who has built a few ebikes and you will learn that the plugs shown in the pic will need to be replaced if you hope to have a reliable bike. The ebike kit combines throttle and ebrake input into one plug , motor a second plug, battery a third plug, very slick see other pic. The plugs are more automotive grade not white chinese toy plugs, very important when you consider that full motor and battery power goes through these plugs.
Also Amped seems to only ship with 6 speed freewheel which could lead to buying and replacing the freewheel.
For the $80 savings you could redo the plugs. I don't feel like redoing a bunch of plugs so I always order from Ebike Kit
The customer service is awesome. Shipping is always about $25 to get the box here to San Francisco.
In the box is:
a built wheel with freewheel (choose from 700c, 26, 24, 20), a thumb AND twist throttle, ebrake levers, sensorless 20 amp infineon controller, disk brake spacer( you may or may not need this), universal torque arm, hardware.
Amped bikes seems to offer the same motor and controller $80 cheaper but the plugs on the controller are garbage. Ask anyone here on ES who has built a few ebikes and you will learn that the plugs shown in the pic will need to be replaced if you hope to have a reliable bike. The ebike kit combines throttle and ebrake input into one plug , motor a second plug, battery a third plug, very slick see other pic. The plugs are more automotive grade not white chinese toy plugs, very important when you consider that full motor and battery power goes through these plugs.
Also Amped seems to only ship with 6 speed freewheel which could lead to buying and replacing the freewheel.
For the $80 savings you could redo the plugs. I don't feel like redoing a bunch of plugs so I always order from Ebike Kit
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nicobie
100 MW
Yep, I'd be worried about Danny boi at Amped bikes.
He seems to have a problem with service/answering questions. The plugs on his motors won't hold up and if, for gods sake, you change them your warranty is gone.
Their are better places to order from. :wink:
He seems to have a problem with service/answering questions. The plugs on his motors won't hold up and if, for gods sake, you change them your warranty is gone.
Their are better places to order from. :wink:
motomech
10 MW
See my comments on Amped bikes on the "Ampedbikes battery or Ping battery?" thread.
Different motors.
ebikekit has a supplier they won't reveal for their hubs, it's not 9C, and it's not MXUS.
Ampedbikes resells MXUS kits ( also available from cell_man at a drastically lower cost ).
All these motors are basically knockoffs or close cousins of the 9C motors.
You can call them 250w, 400w, 500w, 750w, 1000w, whatever you like.. but it's the same motor.
ebikekit has a supplier they won't reveal for their hubs, it's not 9C, and it's not MXUS.
Ampedbikes resells MXUS kits ( also available from cell_man at a drastically lower cost ).
All these motors are basically knockoffs or close cousins of the 9C motors.
You can call them 250w, 400w, 500w, 750w, 1000w, whatever you like.. but it's the same motor.
Ypedal
100 TW
Well.. as far as i know.. neither one is selling actual 9C motors at this time... they used to .. but not now. Not saying they are selling inferior motors, but they are not 9C.
chisixer6
1 kW
I have ebikekit's geared motor for the 20" front wheel, I was wondering who makes their motor or is it a hush hush? I hooked it up to four 3s Life batteries and it does seem to go too fast rpm wise. Could this be a torque motor for hills? I'll know more when I actually test ride it.
thanks
Jerry
thanks
Jerry
dogman dan
1 PW
Ebikes-ca sells 9 continents. Branded on the cover, 9 continent.
Ebikekit sells a very similar motor, similar enough to swap parts, but it's not a 9 c. I was told a new manufacturer was being used, but not who it is. Previously, it may have been muxus, but I'm not sure.
I'm told Amped sells Muxus.
As far as design goes, as usual patents don't mean shit in china. So everybody copies everybody else.
Ebikekit sells a very similar motor, similar enough to swap parts, but it's not a 9 c. I was told a new manufacturer was being used, but not who it is. Previously, it may have been muxus, but I'm not sure.
I'm told Amped sells Muxus.
As far as design goes, as usual patents don't mean shit in china. So everybody copies everybody else.
