Mob of bikers surround SUV and get run over in NYC

[arkmundi]

Also, why would you stand in front of 3 ton SUV on the highway? Might as well stand in front of the moving train, results will be pretty much the same

I don't know and neither do you. Stupidity? Bad choice? Good intention? The judicial presumption is innocent until proved guilty. Edwin Mieses is a human being in the road. He deserves the protection of the law and the courts and at least some modicum of sympathy here at ES.

 

[LSBW]

Arkmundi, I understand your sympathy, but they got what they deserved

A lot of normal bike riders are posting now what these guys had it coming.

 

[gogo]

…protection of the law and the courts…

The driver of the SUV didn't reasonably have the choice to wait for those. The bikies knew what was happening and should have expected a scared motorist to drive forward, out of (immediate) harms way. They made their (poor) choices and had plenty of time to do it. No sympathy for any of them here.

 

[tomtom123]

Saw that vid this morning as it went viral. Edwin Mieses, 32, a father of two and an audio engineer, who lives in Lawrence MA, is in critical condition at St. Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital in New York, after having been driven over by driver of the SUV. Another mortorcyclist did a brake-check on the SUV after the driver attempted to pass them unsafely. The SUV then rear-ended that cyclist. Mieses then stopped to help that cyclist, who was injured. The SUV was stopped, then accelerated over both Mieses and the injured cyclist, but it was Mieses who sustained the worst of it, breaking both legs and damaging both his lungs and kidneys. He's now in critical care.

The group of cyclists then attempted several times to get the SUV to stop, as driving away from the scene of an accident like that is against the law. You can clearly see how difficult that was. If I were one of those cyclist, I would have done the same, not to threaten injury to the driver, but to stop & detain, calling the police to the scene and then letting them take over.

It is the driver of the SUV that is clearly at fault here, though the NYPD has yet to arrest or charge him. Hope they get it sorted out.

Are you serious bro? Are your friends with these bikers guys or something? The driver was the one who made an "unsafe" pass on them? LMAO don't get me started. You obviously didn't see the biker's other videos, the bikers were driving like a dickwats and the SUV driver called the cops on them, they probably didn't like that, Which is why this shit even happened. Most of these bikers are from Hollywood stunts biker group and they film themselves doing stupid shit to put it on their site. I live in NYC and last year they blocked up traffic in times square and some of them got arrested. IF you noticed, most of them don't even have license plates and i bet you alot of them already have suspended licenses, THEY SHOULDN'T BE BIKING IN THE FIRST PLACE!

 

[LSBW]

the bikers were driving like a dickwats and the SUV driver called the cops on them, they probably didn't like that,

His wife, Rosalyn Ng placed four 911 calls from inside the Range Rover in a span of nine minutes.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/suv-driver...wife-faced-life-threatening/story?id=20456813

But obviously, 35.000 cops in NYC, no one was available.
Makes you wonder what are you paying your taxes for.

 

[tomtom123]

We have a bicycle event (no moto) in Chicago called Critical Mass every month. It is kinda like a mob of motos but with bicycles. They will forcefully go 10mph to make sure cars behind them know who is boss. The rude drivers will swerve around and tail the bikers, they get a tongue lashing by the bikers or the police entourage.

Dude we're all bikers here but what you're describing about your event shows that the people are douchebags and if you ride with those people, then you're a douche too. Ok you want to show you support for bikes cool, but intentionally slowing down traffic by riding 10mph in the car lanes is not cool. If you want to ride 10mph, then ride on the bike lanes or on the side of the road like you're supposed to. People have to go to work to feed their families or get home to their families and you're frocking with that. I'd slap you all with a broom on my ebike if i was there.

 

[tomtom123]

the bikers were driving like a dickwats and the SUV driver called the cops on them, they probably didn't like that,

His wife, Rosalyn Ng placed four 911 calls from inside the Range Rover in a span of nine minutes.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/suv-driver...wife-faced-life-threatening/story?id=20456813

But obviously, 35.000 cops in NYC, no one was available.
Makes you wonder what are you paying your taxes for.

They are more busy trying to catch people jumping the MTA subway Fare....and i ain't even lying. I seen bunch of undercover cops catching teens jump over the subway turnstile everyday, I MEAN UNDERCOVER, REALLY?!?! they're that desperate to get quotas and teens jumping mta fare is easy money.... Waste of TAx dollars, NYPD is useless, i speak from personal experience.

 

[LSBW]

We have a bicycle event (no moto) in Chicago called Critical Mass every month. It is kinda like a mob of motos but with bicycles. They will forcefully go 10mph to make sure cars behind them know who is boss. The rude drivers will swerve around and tail the bikers, they get a tongue lashing by the bikers or the police entourage.

Dude we're all bikers here but what you're describing about your event shows that the people are douchebags and if you ride with those people, then you're a douche too. Ok you want to show you support for bikes cool, but intentionally slowing down traffic by riding 10mph in the car lanes is not cool. If you want to ride 10mph, then ride on the bike lanes or on the side of the road like you're supposed to. People have to go to work to feed their families or get home to their families and you're frocking with that. I'd slap you all with a broom on my ebike if i was there.

This is just shows you, most of these so called "thugs" are just got out of their parents basement, adrenalin is up after playing GTA 5 nonstop for the last 2 weeks and now they are looking for adventure.
Well, here you go. Adventure of their lifetime.

From Wiki: "The American Psychological Association has established a causal link between these games and increased aggression. The Dept. of Defense uses them for that purpose"

 

[mark5]

Saw that vid this morning as it went viral. Edwin Mieses, 32, a father of two and an audio engineer, who lives in Lawrence MA, is in critical condition at St. Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital in New York, after having been driven over by driver of the SUV. Another mortorcyclist did a brake-check on the SUV after the driver attempted to pass them unsafely. The SUV then rear-ended that cyclist. Mieses then stopped to help that cyclist, who was injured. The SUV was stopped, then accelerated over both Mieses and the injured cyclist, but it was Mieses who sustained the worst of it, breaking both legs and damaging both his lungs and kidneys.

And later you describe Mieses as a Good Samaritan. But I read more articles, watched the video again, and don't see where Christopher Cruz, the motorcycle rider who brake-checked the SUV, was injured or even down. Even Cruz's attorney said, "His motorcycle was struck and he stood right there." Doesn't seem like Cruz needed help. Mieses' wife claimed Mieses went back to help Cruz. But how would she know that unless she was there and Mieses told her.

 

[Dauntless]

Transit cops are completely separate from NYPD, their own department. IF they happen to be close they'd help out, but they won't have vehicles to join in on the freeway. But much of NYPD is also without cars. A lot of them are assigned inside tall buildings where they never leave while on duty, being kept quite busy. From what I hear of New York traffic, I find it easy to believe it's hard to catch up with a moving vehicle. I wonder if they tried to coordinate getting the driver to a safe location. Might there be a language issue?

maybe now that the cops confiscated all their hiperbikes they will have to ride ebikes instead since they don't have to be registered and since they are illegal in NY then it will right up their alley.

OH NO YOU DON'T! First one caught inviting those dirtbags to an ebike ride is dead meat.

I don't know and neither do you. . . . The judicial presumption is innocent until proved guilty.

This from the guy who made the unsupportable accusations against the driver? You sure claimed to know then. Guess again! His PARTICIPATION proves his guilt. The part on the video where he participates, where his participation gets him hurt. . .Yeah, THAT part. . . .

Edwin Mieses is a human being in the road. He deserves the protection of the law and the courts and at least some modicum of sympathy here at ES.

Ummmm, NOOOOOOOOOOOOO. . . His VICTIMS deserve all that, but don't get it at least so much as they should. HE doesn't deserve that. The law is here to protect others from him. California has a state law that prevents him and his kind from attempting to sue anyone when he hurts himself committing a crime. PROTECTION DENIED! No soup for you.

I really get tired of hearing about how we're supposed to just let a number of people be victimized, but just let one criminal hurt himself in the act and some people want the victims of that criminal to be tortured.

 

[arkmundi]

1. The bikers were not a "gang" on the roadway to perpetrate crimes, but part of an second "annual" biker rally in Times Square called by HollywoodStuntz
http://www.metro.us/newyork/news/lo...gang-assault-the-man-behind-hollywood-stuntz/

According to a bio on the since-deleted website HollywoodStuntz.net, “Hollywood, as he’s called by his friends and fans” is “part of the Blockstarz Entertainment family, a team of motorcycle stunt riders that hold annual events as a forum for themselves and other stunt riders in the New York area (and sometimes riders from out of state) to show off the most insane stunts the thousands of bystanders have ever seen.” “The danger involved with motorcycle stunt riding makes the skills displayed that much more intense and crowd-pleasing,” the bio boasted.

One likely explanation for the bikes not having license plates is that they're all dirt bikes, hence not street legal, props to their stunt event. As risk takers, they also took the risk of being ticketed.

2. See the human being
http://www.heavy.com/news/2013/10/jeremiah-edwin-mieses-jay-meezee-road-rage-video/
Posted pictures and videos

1. His Wife Says Her Husband Was Only Trying to Help. Dayana Mieses has told CBS Boston that her husband only got off his bike during the initial altercation to help another biker who had been knocked over.
2. His Family Says He's Paralyzed by the Incident. Speaking to the media Dayana Mieses said: "This man needs to know he hurt someone. That man paralyzed my husband. He needs to pay for what he did." The Mieses family have said that Jeremiah Mieses is suffering from broken bones in his leg and ribs as well as injuries to his major organs. His father has said that his son is paralyzed from the waist down.
3. Mieses is an Aspiring Rapper Going by the Name 'Jay Meezee' In addition to videos on YouTube of Mieses rapping while surrounded by his biker brethren, reports from the Boston area say that he worked as a music studio engineer.
4. A Tribute Facebook Page Refers to Him as 'a Family Man' Mieses is reported to be the father of two children ages 15 and 9, reports The Daily News. A Facebook page dedicated to Mieses says that a fund has been set up to help his family cover the medical costs.
5. Mieses is the Son of a Well-Known Pennsylvania Pastor Mieses' father, the Rev. Edwin Mieses, of Hazleton, Pennsylvania, where he's the pastor of the Good News Church. He has been active on Facebook updating his flock on his son's progress....

Yes, Mieses was acting as a good samaritan, off his bike and there to help. It was the human thing to do. I only see a fellow human, a family man, into rap music and stunt bike riding, showing up for the HollywoodStuntz event by way of a Facebook connection.

3. Most of the characterization on this thread is salacious speculation based on innuendo and lack of fact
So yay, if you actually look into the story a bit, finding links above and more, a completely different story emerges than the one told in this thread. Its so typical, to first dehumanize, then to demonize, all to justify a hate ethic. Its how wars get started, how violence of any kind gets started.

Here's the real Edwin, "J Meezee"
[youtube]Hw36sZAeb24[/youtube]

 

[dogman dan]

Gang, mob, group, gaggle,,, What's the difference what you call it. He rode with the wrong bunch of guys that day for sure.

Bunches of bad decisions made that day.

 

[LSBW]

Along with the identity of Alexian Lien’s attacker now being publicly revealed, authorities have also now come to tell the name of one of the organizers of the rally that brought hundreds of bikers together in the first place.

Tells the UK’s dailymail: Jamie Lao, 29, operates two websites that rally the New York City motorcyclists – and he does it all from his mother’s basement in Queens.

Looks like a real winner to me.

Also, most rappers end up being shot, or OD on drugs.
This one is paralyzed. Maybe it will become next cool trend.

 

[mark5]

Run-over Mass. biker has long criminal record
http://bostonherald.com/news_opinio.../run_over_mass_biker_has_long_criminal_record

The Lawrence motor­cyclist struck and paralyzed as a desperate SUV driver tried to escape the rage of other bikers in New York on Sunday has a six-page criminal record that began at age 12 with a negligent driving charge and includes jail time for drugs, guns, resisting arrest and other convictions, according to court records.

 

[friendly1uk]

a family man, into rap music and stunt bike riding, showing up for the HollywoodStuntz event

Is that actually possible?
I'm doing some strong stereotyping here, but family men don't generally ride in to town without a license to do some insane stunts for the camera's. Perhaps he was insane. Evidence seems to say so.
Carrying on, are wannabe white rappers with there silly little beards to be taken seriously. Is that a role model for kids.
Could you actually tick both boxes, and carry out the actions seen on cam, then consider yourself family motivated?
Being a family man brings responsibilities. You stop being a gangster and putting yourself in harms way. Otherwise your not a family man, just a dad.

Was he a family man?
I know I'm not from america, but I have seen the cartoon. I know what I'm talking about lol

 

[Harold in CR]

The largest part of this bunch, are Latinos, which have skin tone from white to very dark. It does make it difficult to tell who they actually are.

 

[The fingers]

Gangsters living with mommy. Mom, kick 'em to the curb so they'll grow up.

 

[muffinman]

hmm, a few dozen motorbikes surround my vehicle, that contains my wife and child. clearly i should just sit there when they approach my window.

 

[HAROX]

...gotta eat gotta freak gotta take me some 'caine, and beat my chillun for standin out in the rain, gotta hump the bitch for awhile fore i throw down my bike for a little gangsta style, my daddy seize i could work at the church but i don got time to work for the jerks gotta hump gotta dump gotta snort some blue fore i make it to the street an run ova you cuz i'm a biz fammlee man with a stick up my ass gonna run with the thugs and bum some gas, gotta eat gotta freak gotta take me some 'cane then beat my chillun for standin in the rain...

anybody gotta dirt bike i can borrow?

 

[Dauntless]

There's an old saying: Once a job is screwed up, anything done to fix it only makes it worse. You've been in that mode since your first post in this thread.

1. The bikers were not a "gang" on the roadway to perpetrate crimes, but part of an second "annual" biker rally in Times Square called by HollywoodStuntz

Ah yes, the Al Queda argument. Their RALLY is an annual crime wave, after last year the police were waiting for this one because this is what was going to happen. If you LOOKED you saw many, MANY street bikes.

2. See the human being

Yes. That's why we're angry, we SEE THE HUMAN BEING these NONHUMAN THUGS like Miese attacked. You, on the other hand, refuse to recognize the human aspect of this because you've a prejudice in favor of inhumane behavior.

Here's the real Edwin, "J Meezee"

Run-over Mass. biker has long criminal record
http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/10/run_over_mass_biker_has_long_criminal_record

The Hollywood Stuntz have been named by the NYPD as the gang involved in the horrific incident that occurred in Manhattan on September 29. Members of the gang stand accused of intimidating and assaulting a member of the public, reports The Daily News.

The NYPD were alert to the Hollywood Stunz's plans to ride to Times Square. The NYPD are reported to have confiscated 55 motorcycles from the gang in addition to 15 arrests that were made.

You can argue all you want that they're entitled to risk themselves for their stunts; but you have no scruples when you say they get to hurt others, OR that they're supposed to be safe and coddled and sympathized over when they do unto others. The simple fact is your bad attitude is making us all sick.

http://media.heavy.com/media/2013/10/Facebook-warning.jpg

 

[arkmundi]

Oh come on, you didn't quote my

3. Most of the characterization on this thread is salacious speculation based on innuendo and lack of fact

I haven't had so much fun since the Breakin Bad thread. Haahahaaaaahhaaaa. There's nothin like staring into the shithole that is human experience.

Harox, I raised that to the Quotable hall of fame

 

[Dauntless]

That's why we're angry, we SEE THE HUMAN BEING these NONHUMAN THUGS like Miese attacked. You, on the other hand, refuse to recognize the human aspect of this because you've a prejudice in favor of inhumane behavior.

. . . . you have no scruples when you say they get to hurt others, OR that they're supposed to be safe and coddled and sympathized over when they do unto others.

The simple fact is your bad attitude is making us all sick.

I haven't had so much fun since the Breakin Bad thread. Haahahaaaaahhaaaa. There's nothin like staring into the shithole that is human experience.

[/quote]

Is that a confession?

 

[arkmundi]

Is that a confession?

No, its just more salacious speculation based on innuendo and lack of fact, the Dauntless fact that is, or lack there of.

His wife, Dayana Mieses, said the motorcycle riders had wrongly been vilified in the episode.
"When you look at the video, you can see he's running over something," Diana Mieses said. "It's not just a motorcycle; it's a human being that was under there." http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162...road-rage-incident-recently-arrested-in-mass/

Yay, a human being that was under there, my first, now and continuing reaction to seeing that youtube video.

 

[LSBW]

Dude, just admit you're wrong, and get on with your life. Jeez

 

[HAROX]

Oh come on, you didn't quote my

3. Most of the characterization on this thread is salacious speculation based on innuendo and lack of fact

I haven't had so much fun since the Breakin Bad thread. Haahahaaaaahhaaaa. There's nothin like staring into the shithole that is human experience.

Harox, I raised that to the Quotable hall of fame

Thanks arkmundi
Honestly. I 'composed' that ditty in five minutes and I wasn't even high. So far as staring into a shit-hole, anybody wants to, go back and HEAR what his baby's momma had to say about how "SAFE" those cyclists are, be my guest. She isn't better than he is, just an irrational twit who just got the rug pulled out. And they both were high. She was high on crack when she said it. Look at her eyes. I cut nobody slack when it comes to being malicious and f ucked up.