Mob of bikers surround SUV and get run over in NYC

[MikeFairbanks]

Hey, Arkmundi: there probably is someone out there who still thinks Beta will make a comeback and beat VHS. Geesh, you really are hung up on being on the wrong side of this.

Keep spinning your wheels, bro. You're 100% wrong.

Let me repeat: You are wrong. Why not just man-up and admit it?


These guys on the motorcycles literally bullied the man in the SUV (who was just driving down the road) and they ended up hurt and in jail.


The dude in the wheelchair should be thanking the SUV driver for saving his life and begging his forgiveness. He wouldn't have lasted much longer on his current road (literally and figuratively). I suspect that someday, when he grows up, that he'll go on a speaking tour to teach a better way of life. When he finally grows up he'll learn to realize that the SUV driver was right, and then he'll ask that driver for forgiveness.

Had the SUV driver not sped off, he would likely be dead, and God knows what those criminals would have done to his wife and baby.


So, tell us, Arkmundi: What was this family guy with a baby in the back supposed to do? They first staged an accident. He stopped because he thought that's what he's supposed to do. Then the punks start beating his car and slashing his tires. Is that some kind of strange language barrier? Was that cave-man talk for, "we need to exchange insurance information."?

I wonder how many of the cyclists called the police. Probably ZERO. Criminals don't call the cops. But the family called four times. Why? Because they are being attacked by violent criminals.

Here's a fact: Had this event played out on the freeway there would be a dead SUV driver, a violated/dead wife, and an abandoned/orphan baby (if they even have that much compassion).

There is no gray in this case. The SUV driver showed far more restraint than most people would. He should be congratulated for at least giving the criminals a chance by stopping the first time.


It blows my mind that people are supporting any of the psycholists. But, then, bullies exist, and I suppose they need heroes too.

 

[HAROX]

^^^
This is more fun than talking about global warming, and so far as global warming is concerned, arkmundi, you're dead wrong. 100%

IPCCC is just a bunch of crazy maladjusted motorcycle riders looking to tap and frisk the world. 90%

Whatever you do, don't do whatever you do. And if you do, don't name it after me. 50 cent

Everyone will know, in the end, what they will know, and then they'll forget it and ride like a MOFO> my 2 cent

 

[Icewrench]

As seen somewhere on the www.

Verse 1

Livin dat life
Dat life of a soldier
Feelin like a gansta
Rollin like a boulder

I used to get money
I used to be stacked
Now I want my mummy
Cuz I'm feelin wacked

Chorus:

Gettin run ova
By da Range Rova
Yea, Yea, Yea, arggggh

Gettin run ova
By da Range Rova
Yea, Yea, Yea, arggggh

(Hands in da aya if you a tru playa)

Verse 2

So, I'm rollin down da avenue
Rakin in da revenue
Playin wit da motorists
Regardless of my soberness

When out of nowhere
There rose such a clatter
I noticed some folks
Just waiting to be battered

I rolled up on the marks
To show them a trick.........
but they layed it on me quick
Like a neck with a crick

Chorus:

Gettin run ova
By da Range Rova
Yea, Yea, Yea, arggggh

Gettin run ova
By da Range Rova
Yea, Yea, Yea, arggggh

Verse 3

From two wheels to four
Fourth to the floor
No more hardcore
I won't do it anymore

Because I'm sorry? Nah

Just didn't realize the magnitude
Of sportin a gangsta attitude

Bloodied & Battered
Layin here quackin....
Hackin......
Clackin.......
When I should be braggin....
Taggin......
Shaggin......

Lifeless body
Mindless mind
Can't even potty
Without my Mommy

Chorus:

Gettin run ova
By da Range Rova
Yea, Yea, Yea, arggggh

Gettin run ova
By da Range Rova
Yea, Yea, Yea, arggggh

Rova Ranges....
____________________

 

[Dauntless]

. . . .NOT as an excuse to.

As you continue on your verbal beatdown of a certain deserving poster, I'll deal with him in a more GRAPHIC manner.

With posters.

 

[HAROX]

As you continue on your verbal beatdown of a certain deserving poster, I'll deal with him in a more GRAPHIC manner

Hmm...who cares?

 

[HAROX]

This thread began, being fueled with speculation about the circumstances of a road rage incident. The speculation is interesting, tragic, humorous, worth reading, regardless of a person's sentiments, and sentiments abound.
People got to weigh in about their feelings of being threatened, of dealing with outrageous behavior, of contending with lying lawyers and lying spouses, of uncovering undercover cops, of the privilege of wealth and status, of stealing, class, race, religion, power. That's a big list, with lots of sentiment, and all, SPECULATIVE.
Some comments were incisive. I know mine were that, and possibly insulting to some, for reasons or conditions I know nothing about.. however, all on topic.

Now comes big Dauntless, doing what I've seen happen repeatedly when he doesn't have anything to really contribute. He takes a side turn and derails some conversation, making it about his dislike of some member, or his need to hinge a conversation and talk about other things, or to backbite somebody discreetly. So, to counter such, let me be absolutely incisive with you big D.

To you dauntless, who would fragment the energy in a conversation for your own preferences, that stuff is about YOU. And once again, who cares? Most people don't care about what I say. God knows, I don't go sticking my foot in topics which are above my head, and I sure don't send insulting personal messages to people, which you've done to me, when you thought I was swbluto's alias. You really had a thing for swbluto. I thought you were going to propose marriage to the guy once.

So, anyone who wants to see this habit of Dauntless' as I see it, you'll be educated. Anyone who deflects a conversation off topic to service their own views of some member is doing a verbal "tap".
If my payback for being here is being lonely, as Dauntless would suggest, I only wonder what his payoff is for being viewed as a troll.
Enough said.

 

[tomtom123]

This is one of the the thug's instagram who was there during the incident. He's since deleted his instagram, but ofc he would.

 

[Thud]

A form letter from the AMA.

An important message from the American Motorcyclist Association about the New York City incident involving an SUV driver and motorcycle riders More Info



An incident in New York City on Sunday, Sept. 29, involving an SUV driver and some motorcyclists has generated widespread media coverage and stirred concern amongst motorcyclists nationwide.

The American Motorcyclist Association is troubled by the contents of a video that was taken of the incident – both for the serious injuries caused by the SUV driver and for the actions of some motorcyclists who apparently decided to take the law into their own hands. Because a criminal investigation is underway, we believe it is wise to refrain from commenting further on the specific incident until all the facts are known. We will continue to monitor the developments of the investigation.

As you know, the AMA has long advocated responsible riding. AMA members strive to represent motorcycling in a positive light. AMA clubs do the same, supporting rider education and raising funds for charitable causes in their communities. Each year, hundreds of well-organized, AMA-sanctioned recreational events occur where law-abiding motorcyclists gather to enjoy camaraderie and spend their tourist dollars in host cities and surrounding communities.

One unfortunate event of this kind, reported frequently by national and local media, can create a false image of all motorcyclists by the general public.

The safety of all road users, especially motorcyclists, is of the utmost concern to the AMA and we do not support actions by any road users that violate the law. The AMA is telling the media our position about responsible riding and urging them to report this incident factually and objectively.

As motorcyclists, we can all do our part individually by writing emails or letters and making phone calls to our local news media urging them to do the same, and explaining that the actions of a few do not represent the vast majority of the estimated 27 million motorcyclists in America.

The AMA encourages its members to utilize the media as a communication tool. The media can be helpful in getting our message out to the public or drawing attention to our concerns regarding the incident in New York City. To find and contact local or national media outlets, click here.


A sample letter is enclosed below…

To Whom It May Concern:

As a responsible motorcyclist and a concerned citizen, I am writing about the incident that occurred in New York City on Sunday, Sept. 29, involving an SUV driver and some motorcyclists.

I am troubled by the serious injuries caused by the SUV driver and by the actions of some motorcyclists who apparently decided to take the law into their own hands. Some in the media have reported the facts but others are sensationalizing the story. I urge you to report this incident factually and objectively.

I ride responsibly and do my best to represent motorcycling in a positive light. Those of us who ride support rider education and often raise funds for charitable causes in our community. The safety of all road users, especially motorcyclists, is of the utmost concern to me and I do not support actions by any road users that violate the law.

Each year, the American Motorcyclist Association sanctions hundreds of well-organized recreational events. At these events, law-abiding motorcyclists gather to enjoy camaraderie and spend their tourist dollars in host cities and surrounding communities.

One unfortunate event of this kind, reported frequently by national and local media, can create a false image of all motorcyclists by the general public.

Motorcycling has become an enjoyable mainstream activity and almost everyone today has a family member or friend who rides. The actions of the motorcyclists portrayed in the video of the encounter in New York City do not represent me, my friends, or the vast majority of the 27 million motorcyclists in America.

If you have comments please send them to grassroots@ama-cycle.org.

 

[arkmundi]

John Miller, a former deputy commissioner with the New York Police Department, said on "CBS This Morning"

The riders, Miller also noted, were not part of a bike gang "per se." "This was a day where motorcycles were -- this is their marauding through New York day and it involves a number of motorcycle clubs and enthusiasts," he said. "This group on the West Side Highway wasn't all one group. This was a number of motorcyclists who seemed to have found each other, and were riding together, and this got out of control."

 

[cal3thousand]

John Miller, a former deputy commissioner with the New York Police Department, said on "CBS This Morning"

The riders, Miller also noted, were not part of a bike gang "per se." "This was a day where motorcycles were -- this is their marauding through New York day and it involves a number of motorcycle clubs and enthusiasts," he said. "This group on the West Side Highway wasn't all one group. This was a number of motorcyclists who seemed to have found each other, and were riding together, and this got out of control."

They weren't part of a gang "per se". But when anyone sees more than 5 motorcycles riding in a pack with body plates, they identify it as a gang. Doesn't matter if they aren't technically gang.

If you saw that pack of bikes roll up on your ebike like that what would you think?

 

[HAROX]

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmAmrz2bRE85N--z7gGcIYg

Did he really say those things or was this a rouse?[/quote]
Good question. That's the link. Unfortunately, there's no 'truth/lie' button to consult. BTW this is from an account of a person named Alexian Lien, not Alexis Lien.
Now that I think about it harder I'm not so sure this isn't a rouse, like call3000 questions. So consider it probably defective information, and should Mr Lien surface saying those sort of things in person, then it may be worth considering.

Sorry if I offended anyone. Like I said, it's a youtube link. That sure doesn't mean it's trusted information.

I did find intriguing, his hobbies are RC controlled helicopters fueled with LiPO. He's otherwise a person with impeccable taste in state of the art stuff. Now I come to find out he's the head of a high tech company as well.
I really can't know for sure. That's why they call it SPECULATION I GUESS.

 

[arkmundi]

In the end....
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[slacker]

i think it's time to lock this conversation as it seem's to be a little bit of a who is more wrong bitchfest

 

[Dauntless]

Hmm...who cares?

Obviously you do.

Now comes big Dauntless, doing what I've seen happen repeatedly when he doesn't have anything to really contribute.

Ah, you don't see any deflection from your increasingly abuse behavior as "Contributing," at least not at the level your abuse "Contributes." I made nothing of "Disliking another member." Didn't even mention a name.

This whole thing is YOUR sidetrip.

So, to counter such, let me be absolutely incisive with you big D.

Will that be in a future post? It sure wasn't in this one.

Most people don't care about what I say. God knows, I don't go sticking my foot in topics which are above my head, and I sure don't send insulting personal messages to people, which you've done to me. . . .

I've never sent you an insulting personal message. When I responded to YOUR question about your ADMITTED trolling at me, I pointed out a DIFFERENT poster that was worse and told you why it bothered me, which seemed to upset you. But there's no way that's an insulting message. YOU brought up the idea of maybe you were that other poster, not me. I even sent another message REMINDING you of that. (That was interesting, however.) You also on several occasions said you wanted me back into the ugly threads I'd just walked away from. INSISTED. Well, you had afterall been the one who made some of them ugly. I guess your continuing posts here say that eloquently. But at least I can demonstrate for you what INCISIVE really means. Such as anything I say that makes you stop and think about your behavior seems to hit a nerve. Even when it's not directed at you.

If my payback for being here is being lonely, as Dauntless would suggest, I only wonder what his payoff is for being viewed as a troll.
Enough said.

You know, the ONLY people who've suggested I'm a troll are among the worst trolls here. PERIOD. That's been the pretty unanimous statement about you. Yourself included. That whole notion of the lonely wolf is a good thing for anyone who just HAS TO HAVE VERBAL BEATDOWNS ONLINE to think about. That should be more than enough said, but then I'm saying it to someone who promised he was going to be more civil.

 

[Dauntless]

Now back to more interesting stuff. Today NYPD says one undercover officer was more than just an observer, that they have video that hasn't made it to YouTube of him breaking a window and other things. They didn't have the video for us, darn it.

I wonder what the Occupiers think when they hear he was among them.

http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/09/20884831-charges-upgraded-against-undercover-cop-in-suv-assault?lite