The 1st Halloween ranks near the top for me. I never thought it was the masterpiece of horror like many claim. I thought it was very low budget, poor acting, boring dialog . To me it is boring and basically teenagers walking around being stalked by a madman. Ironically, Halloween 3 season of the witch, is hated by many horror fans., and yet it is the only one in the series I enjoy. I thought it had a clever storyline, solid acting and the character of colonel Cochran was very intense and macabre.
Most over rated horror films ?
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'Blair Witch Project.' A hoax even calling it horror, unless you mean the torture of watching it.
The original Dawn of the Dead is another one that is highly rated, but I find boring and un-scary. Love the original Night of living dead . What a epic breakthrough film, in so many ways , especially casting the lead character as the hero and a black man. Very daring for that era.
Dauntless
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So here's this site claaed Den of Geek with '81 creepiest,' just a few that are good but largely forgettable. All have an Amazon link to watch them. Is the reason for the bad ones for people to have never heard of it so they click it? If the article was all good ones people have largely seen them, right?
Hillhater
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How about ... "An inconvenient Truth". ?
Well, it was intended to scare us !
It even won awards.
But was totally overated. ..containing too much fake "Gore " ! :lol: :lol:
Well, it was intended to scare us !
It even won awards.
But was totally overated. ..containing too much fake "Gore " ! :lol: :lol:
Dauntless
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Hillhater said:How about ... "An inconvenient Truth". ?
Well, it was intended to scare us !
It even won awards.
But was totally overated. ..containing too much fake "Gore " ! :lol: :lol:
Even you can't really laugh at that little problem.
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The original Alien movie. I've never re-watched it, even though I really liked Aliens. I also like Prometheus AND find it scary. The last one, Alien Covenant? I thought it was frightening but such a downer that I don't even consider it good horror. There seems to be a rule that every other Alien movie MUST suck ass.
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"The Blair Witch Project" has to be one of the most over-rated, but I'd hand that title to "Paranormal Activity". Both are absurdly ignorant, shallow, uninteresting, boring, bland, predictable movies, which you do not want in a horror film.
One of the scariest films I'd ever seen, even though it wasn't intended to be a horror film, even though the film itself is laughably goofy in many ways, is "Soylent Green". To think that collectively as a species we really ARE doing that to our one and only planet and risk leaving that sort of world to future generations... and that a lot of what that movie predicted has already come to pass at least in part(reduction in living standard for most Americans, corporate control of food supply, fresh/unadulterated/unprocessed/unengineered real actual food becoming unaffordable(or for those living in food deserts, unavailable) to most Americans, loss of civil liberties, collapse of biodiversity, resource shortages, ect, even though our current reality is not nearly as dire as that the movie depicted, things are trending in the direction of its setting).
One of my favorite horror films is an old and obscure French film titled "Delicatessen", by Jean-Pierre Jeunet. It's a scifi-horror-comedy in a post apocalyptic setting, and features a delightful level of grotesqueness and absurdity to go with its comedy. Here's a trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYo_SkERMNI
My favorite horror film ever, by far, has to go to "Threads". It's an attempt to realistically portray the effects of a nuclear war, even if it may be a bit dated, even if it isn't a "good" movie, its effort and intent and lack of nicety makes it what it is: truly scary, and I love it for it. If you've never seen it, watch it, now(be patient, I found the first half or so to be boring, but when it gets interesting, it stays interesting):
https://www2.solarmoviex.to/watch/threads.prymj
I'm quite fond of Rob Zombie's "The Devil's Rejects", but find it more funny than horrific. There's a certain lack of subtlety combining over-gratuitous violence, intelligent commentary, and humor in most of Rob Zombie's films that are perfectly executed, to where you can't distinguish between the violence, intelligent commentary, and comedy from each other because they are all one in the same. His characters really make the films what they are. Examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-uMtPqMtis (even a Pagliacci reference at the start; "Laugh, clown!")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kZUcjdEReI (the humor here is quite realistic, well thought out, and even reminiscent of my own childhood)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoWDl4RSyGQ (forward to 1:27; it'll be hit or miss depending on what you find funny)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP6AIIaV1QU (The stereotyping here is as hilarious and over the top as it is representative of some of the real people I've come across)
I'm looking forward to watching "31" when I get the chance. The scenes in Rob Zombie's films are more often than not more complex than they appear to be on the first viewing, even if there's no subtlety at all with regard to the violence itself. I really like his style and his characters.
Also, I found the recent film Brightburn by James Gunn to be a great horror film, even though I didn't find it to be scary. It was well thought out and witty though, and the concept was quite original and something I'd never seen before. Definitely an interesting take on the superhero genre, more than the horror film it was intended to be.
Dude, all of the face hugger cuteness more than makes up for the movies' flaws. How can you NOT love adorable little face huggers?
IMO, the original Alien is the best in the series. I like its slow, creeping buildup to the infamous chest-burster scene.
Never saw Alien Covenant yet. I should do it. For the face huggers.
One of the scariest films I'd ever seen, even though it wasn't intended to be a horror film, even though the film itself is laughably goofy in many ways, is "Soylent Green". To think that collectively as a species we really ARE doing that to our one and only planet and risk leaving that sort of world to future generations... and that a lot of what that movie predicted has already come to pass at least in part(reduction in living standard for most Americans, corporate control of food supply, fresh/unadulterated/unprocessed/unengineered real actual food becoming unaffordable(or for those living in food deserts, unavailable) to most Americans, loss of civil liberties, collapse of biodiversity, resource shortages, ect, even though our current reality is not nearly as dire as that the movie depicted, things are trending in the direction of its setting).
One of my favorite horror films is an old and obscure French film titled "Delicatessen", by Jean-Pierre Jeunet. It's a scifi-horror-comedy in a post apocalyptic setting, and features a delightful level of grotesqueness and absurdity to go with its comedy. Here's a trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYo_SkERMNI
My favorite horror film ever, by far, has to go to "Threads". It's an attempt to realistically portray the effects of a nuclear war, even if it may be a bit dated, even if it isn't a "good" movie, its effort and intent and lack of nicety makes it what it is: truly scary, and I love it for it. If you've never seen it, watch it, now(be patient, I found the first half or so to be boring, but when it gets interesting, it stays interesting):
https://www2.solarmoviex.to/watch/threads.prymj
NickJohn said:
I'm quite fond of Rob Zombie's "The Devil's Rejects", but find it more funny than horrific. There's a certain lack of subtlety combining over-gratuitous violence, intelligent commentary, and humor in most of Rob Zombie's films that are perfectly executed, to where you can't distinguish between the violence, intelligent commentary, and comedy from each other because they are all one in the same. His characters really make the films what they are. Examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-uMtPqMtis (even a Pagliacci reference at the start; "Laugh, clown!")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kZUcjdEReI (the humor here is quite realistic, well thought out, and even reminiscent of my own childhood)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoWDl4RSyGQ (forward to 1:27; it'll be hit or miss depending on what you find funny)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP6AIIaV1QU (The stereotyping here is as hilarious and over the top as it is representative of some of the real people I've come across)
I'm looking forward to watching "31" when I get the chance. The scenes in Rob Zombie's films are more often than not more complex than they appear to be on the first viewing, even if there's no subtlety at all with regard to the violence itself. I really like his style and his characters.
Also, I found the recent film Brightburn by James Gunn to be a great horror film, even though I didn't find it to be scary. It was well thought out and witty though, and the concept was quite original and something I'd never seen before. Definitely an interesting take on the superhero genre, more than the horror film it was intended to be.
LeftieBiker said:
Dude, all of the face hugger cuteness more than makes up for the movies' flaws. How can you NOT love adorable little face huggers?
IMO, the original Alien is the best in the series. I like its slow, creeping buildup to the infamous chest-burster scene.
Never saw Alien Covenant yet. I should do it. For the face huggers.
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Of course, it now looks like the hand puppet it is. I think that the 'Auto-Doc vs Alien "embryo" fight' in Prometheus beats any other scene in any other Alien movie. For me Prometheus is the right balance between Horror, Sci Fi and action. And it doesn't have the Downer ending that detracts from every second Alien movie after the original.
Dauntless
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Most over rated horror movie? How about winning the Oscar for Best Screenplay?
'Get Out.'
'Get Out.'
tomjasz
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Any Trump interview.
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tomjasz said:
Wow, you're actually admitting you think people who say he's horrible are wrong.
Ah, but that's not a horror film anyway.
tomjasz
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Dauntless said:
All good. Honestly I’d never give up on friends over politics. So yeah I’m good with your twist. I do think it’s horror, but more a comedy of errors. All things are subject to change. When I step back and think about it your right and my left combined make us brilliant.
Dauntless
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I'm center.
Oh, if Monty Python made the film of the Trump presidency, perhaps they'd call it 'A White House called Wanda.'
"Dumb presidents do not read briefing reports."
"Neither do you."
Oh, if Monty Python made the film of the Trump presidency, perhaps they'd call it 'A White House called Wanda.'
"Dumb presidents do not read briefing reports."
"Neither do you."
The fingers
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Play Misty For Me, the Clint Eastwood B movie bomb.
tomjasz
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Solid left, but don’t get along well with some on the left. I get in trouble over the 2nd. So I mostly just STFU. But it’s hard with 45. I was critical about all the last choices. But my actual choices will never come to fruition. 50 years of voting and only one I really liked. But that would be another toxic discussion.
Dauntless
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If you really want horror movie from politics, there's 'Dawn of the Living Jeffery Epstein.' The Democrats already took one huge hit on Weinstein, eh? All the talk of themses' should be giving back all the money donated by him, raised for them, etc. etc. This of course after they've already spent it. They muddled through because of course the media today is largely the Democratic party public information office. But darn, Epstein brought them a hell of a lot more money than Weinstein.
Then there's the expresident Clinton making 26 flights on the Epstein plane, including 4 trips to Africa. And yes he would be caught dead on Epstein's island paravice. Er, paradise. Er, caught UNDEAD, since this is a horror movie. All this was coming up BEFORE the 2016 election, before this new arrest. But after the sweetheart sentencing deal during the Obama years. (Another president who benefitted greatly.)
A nightmare not just for the democratic party, but for CNN. Trying desperately to blame Epstein on Trump. Who of course famously Aathrew Epstein out of Mara a Lago years before the first arrest, steadfastly saying Epstein is no good ever since. Trump, who before his campaigning got serious predicted there was to be more bad news coming from Epstein. I can just see Anderson Cooper crying, 'No, I wanna blame TRUMP.'
Meanwhile, is ANYONE in the circular firing squad without Epstein taint? Can Biden hope to find ANYONE in the party to make a credible running mate without bringing Epstein taint? Or make a credible running mate, period?
And then there's all the whining for Omar. Oh, poor Omar. Who is busy laughing at violence in America. . . .
https://www.dailywire.com/news/49521/watch-laughing-ilhan-omar-refuses-condemn-antifa-amanda-prestigiacomo
Talk about Zombie Apocalypse.
So as the also rans among the circular firing squad continue to take out the front runners in a manner less civil than voting them off the island conspiracies on 'Survivor,' damn, how many 1,000 yard stares do you think they have at the DNC, looking like the Buffalo Bills as they got blown out of their 4th consecutive SuperBowl? Oh yeah, it's a horror movie. We're going be watching sequels for at least the next 16 months
Then there's the expresident Clinton making 26 flights on the Epstein plane, including 4 trips to Africa. And yes he would be caught dead on Epstein's island paravice. Er, paradise. Er, caught UNDEAD, since this is a horror movie. All this was coming up BEFORE the 2016 election, before this new arrest. But after the sweetheart sentencing deal during the Obama years. (Another president who benefitted greatly.)
A nightmare not just for the democratic party, but for CNN. Trying desperately to blame Epstein on Trump. Who of course famously Aathrew Epstein out of Mara a Lago years before the first arrest, steadfastly saying Epstein is no good ever since. Trump, who before his campaigning got serious predicted there was to be more bad news coming from Epstein. I can just see Anderson Cooper crying, 'No, I wanna blame TRUMP.'
Meanwhile, is ANYONE in the circular firing squad without Epstein taint? Can Biden hope to find ANYONE in the party to make a credible running mate without bringing Epstein taint? Or make a credible running mate, period?
And then there's all the whining for Omar. Oh, poor Omar. Who is busy laughing at violence in America. . . .
https://www.dailywire.com/news/49521/watch-laughing-ilhan-omar-refuses-condemn-antifa-amanda-prestigiacomo
Talk about Zombie Apocalypse.
So as the also rans among the circular firing squad continue to take out the front runners in a manner less civil than voting them off the island conspiracies on 'Survivor,' damn, how many 1,000 yard stares do you think they have at the DNC, looking like the Buffalo Bills as they got blown out of their 4th consecutive SuperBowl? Oh yeah, it's a horror movie. We're going be watching sequels for at least the next 16 months
tomjasz
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Center? Holy smokes, for clarity, the center of what? VBG
Dauntless
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The political spectrum. Or the U.S. itself, even though I live in California. East of Hollywood, west of Boston, Vermont, etc. (Would you believe that the electoral college was originally the conservative east coast keeping the liberal south from deciding the president? Although prior to the civil war it wasn't working too well.)
But it's funny how there's always one of the political extremes that doesn't even seem to understand what that all means. Currently the liberal effete think their left elbow is somehow where conservative begins. But the center is where the heart is, which is why the left wing doesn't have one. Hence Kamala Harris attacks right winger Joe Biden and some people fall for that.
Scary.
Oh wait, maybe you need to read this.
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=82223&start=6250#p1481621
But it's funny how there's always one of the political extremes that doesn't even seem to understand what that all means. Currently the liberal effete think their left elbow is somehow where conservative begins. But the center is where the heart is, which is why the left wing doesn't have one. Hence Kamala Harris attacks right winger Joe Biden and some people fall for that.
Scary.
Oh wait, maybe you need to read this.
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=82223&start=6250#p1481621
tomjasz
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Nah. I’m good. But I’m apparently everything you have zero tolerance for. I should know better. Hollywood? Californicator? All good. If it were as simple as you suggest we’d be friends. Possible... but more and more unlikely. THAT is the crux of the problem in America today. We see each other as dullards and the enemy. I’m sickened by it and honestly would like to find common ground. frock me for ever dissing Reagan. I’d relish the old school politicians coming back into fancy.
Dauntless
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Except the problem came from what used to be my side. Under O Duce there was a democratic president making hate fashionable and party leadership cheering it on. Suddenly they are outraged that America broke ranks, now they whine and whine about suffering the consequences.
Old fashioned? I'd settle for Bill Clinton, 'The Great Conciliator.' From what I can tell, so would much of the Republican Party. One side seems to have learned it's lesson far better than the other side.
Old fashioned? I'd settle for Bill Clinton, 'The Great Conciliator.' From what I can tell, so would much of the Republican Party. One side seems to have learned it's lesson far better than the other side.
tomjasz
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Yup, can’t twist those facts...
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I just saw Aniara. I have a soft spot for the doom porn films and this one did not disappoint. You all should watch it.
Ahh, Clinton with his NAFTA(which Reagan and Bush Sr. failed to ram through due to protests from the left), WTO, the Telecommunications Deregulation Act of 1996 which allowed big business to fully take over the mass media, further escalation of the prison-industrial complex, and multiple unconstitutional wars. It's as if the Reagan/Bush Sr. administrations never ended while he was in office. To think that all the Republicans could get him for was for lying about an oval office BJ, which was really none of their business, even though that man did plenty of evil things worthy of an execution that they ignored.
The left likes to blame Trumpolini and the right likes to blame O'Duce for America's descent into fascism, but in truth, Reagan, Bush Sr., and Clinton all got us there long before Dubya' and all his successors cranked the unaccountable national security state that is destroying the fabric of this country and bankrupting the American people from 10 up to 11.
Call me old fashioned, but I could really go for another bootlegging adulterous JFK for willing to stand up to the Federal Reserve or a hypocritical Eisenhower who at least stood out for warning about the growing unaccountable military industrial complex after waiting for his term to end(even though he allowed others to expand it during his term), or maybe even older, perhaps a William McKinley or (in spite of some even worse glaring flaws than the aforementioned) an Andrew Jackson or a Thomas Jefferson all willing to stand up to the wealthy aristocrats who wanted to enslave us to a central bank.
Woodrow Wilson ended up being the asshole who did the deed. He came to regret it, but the deed was done. We are paying for it dearly today and have been, for decades.
Dauntless said:
Ahh, Clinton with his NAFTA(which Reagan and Bush Sr. failed to ram through due to protests from the left), WTO, the Telecommunications Deregulation Act of 1996 which allowed big business to fully take over the mass media, further escalation of the prison-industrial complex, and multiple unconstitutional wars. It's as if the Reagan/Bush Sr. administrations never ended while he was in office. To think that all the Republicans could get him for was for lying about an oval office BJ, which was really none of their business, even though that man did plenty of evil things worthy of an execution that they ignored.
The left likes to blame Trumpolini and the right likes to blame O'Duce for America's descent into fascism, but in truth, Reagan, Bush Sr., and Clinton all got us there long before Dubya' and all his successors cranked the unaccountable national security state that is destroying the fabric of this country and bankrupting the American people from 10 up to 11.
Call me old fashioned, but I could really go for another bootlegging adulterous JFK for willing to stand up to the Federal Reserve or a hypocritical Eisenhower who at least stood out for warning about the growing unaccountable military industrial complex after waiting for his term to end(even though he allowed others to expand it during his term), or maybe even older, perhaps a William McKinley or (in spite of some even worse glaring flaws than the aforementioned) an Andrew Jackson or a Thomas Jefferson all willing to stand up to the wealthy aristocrats who wanted to enslave us to a central bank.
Woodrow Wilson ended up being the asshole who did the deed. He came to regret it, but the deed was done. We are paying for it dearly today and have been, for decades.