noob question about ezee motor feel

[GoreD]

I have been searching but can't seem to find the answer.

I am thinking of my first build and am curious about the feeling when power is applied. I'm looking at inexpensive options and it seems that the ezee motor with a controller and twist throttle is the way to go. Or maybe a Mac motor from China.

can the power be applied in a gradual or vaiaible fashion? or is it just low/med/high power?

Thanks for any input.

 

[rasputin1197]

I run a eZee kit from ebikes.ca. It has been very dependable for 8000 miles. I did replace the planetary gear at around 6-7000 miles. Since Grin gives a two year warranty on the motor, it did not cost me a dime

Regarding the throttle response....it's very smooth and responsive. Similar to peddling, with just 4 times the power. Do yourself a favor....spend the $, buy it from ebikes.ca. You'll not be sorry.

 

[calab]

Em3EV has the MAC, but the shipping is an extra $100 or more, plus damage in shipping.
x2 for Ebikes.ca is the way to go with eZee or the Crystalyte, 9C.

 

[GoreD]

I run a eZee kit from ebikes.ca. It has been very dependable for 8000 miles. I did replace the planetary gear at around 6-7000 miles. Since Grin gives a two year warranty on the motor, it did not cost me a dime

Regarding the throttle response....it's very smooth and responsive. Similar to peddling, with just 4 times the power. Do yourself a favor....spend the $, buy it from ebikes.ca. You'll not be sorry.

Thanks for the replies. I have been leaning towards ebikes.ca though I am on a tight budget.

rasputin are you just using the hand throtle or did you go with a pedal sensor setup?

 

[DAND214]

You can't go wrong with ebikes.ca.
If you got the money do it. If not go with EM3ev.
Ezee top notch stuff, Mac also great but limited warranty.

Dan

 

[rasputin1197]

I run a eZee kit from ebikes.ca. It has been very dependable for 8000 miles. I did replace the planetary gear at around 6-7000 miles. Since Grin gives a two year warranty on the motor, it did not cost me a dime

Regarding the throttle response....it's very smooth and responsive. Similar to peddling, with just 4 times the power. Do yourself a favor....spend the $, buy it from ebikes.ca. You'll not be sorry.

Thanks for the replies. I have been leaning towards ebikes.ca though I am on a tight budget.

rasputin are you just using the hand throtle or did you go with a pedal sensor setup?

I use a thumb throttle...very comfortable and responsive.

 

[dogman dan]

Where you buy from often is affected by where you live. In Canada, or USA, Grin can be the best choice for reasons other than price.

One of the bargains in a kit, is the dd motors from EM3ev. Better quality kits are appearing for cheap on Ebay this spring too. That ship from USA, not china.

Using a throttle can be very foreign to people used to biking a lot. But most of us here prefer a throttle. Once you get the hang of it, it's easy. Set a speed that uses your battery at the rate you want, then pedal up 1-2 mph more speed is the efficient way to use a throttle.

Easy to set a throttle level of 100-200w, but it is actually hard to ride at a power level lower than 100w. So if you want 50w assist, then you might choose pedelec, or use a 3 speed switch that gives you more fine control over the throttle at low speed.

 

[GoreD]

I am in Vancouver so I think stopping by ebikes.can will work best for me. I noticed they have an older model ezee 400w for $300. I'm only concerned that it might not pull me up the long hills in north Vancouver as well as the 500w they are selling now. the price seems right though.

 

[Stochastic_Sam]

I've put about 7000 miles on that 400 watt eZee in San Francisco over the last 2 years, doing a 15 mile round-trip commute. It pulls up hills just fine, particularly with a 48 volt battery. I upgraded from 36 to 48 recently, and that makes an notable difference in top end speed with that motor. You won't be flying up a 17 degree grade at 30 miles per hour, but with modest pedaling I can easily climb anything in town. The twist throttle and stock controller Grin ships with that kit are responsive.

 

[GoreD]

I've put about 7000 miles on that 400 watt eZee in San Francisco over the last 2 years, doing a 15 mile round-trip commute. It pulls up hills just fine, particularly with a 48 volt battery. I upgraded from 36 to 48 recently, and that makes an notable difference in top end speed with that motor. You won't be flying up a 17 degree grade at 30 miles per hour, but with modest pedaling I can easily climb anything in town. The twist throttle and stock controller Grin ships with that kit are responsive.

thanks for the feedback.

I was also thinking that a 48v battery will be the way to go. I am still trying to figure out the most cost effective (and safe) 48v but I'm sure that would be a whole new thread.

 

[dogman dan]

The 400w ezee will get up the hills ok on 48v. FWIW, it won't be running on only 400w. Not sure what the amps of the controller is, but 20 amps X 48v gets you about 1200w max on hills. It will breeze up 10% grades on that.

You should have no problem going for the 400w version.

 

[markz]

I do not see the 400W motor for $300 you are talking about on the website. Unless you are talking about the Crystalyte HS2240 Front Hub Motor in 26 inch wheel. I dont know what the HS2240 is good for compared to the HS3540. Oh I see thats a front wheel, better then a 9C. Whats the riding like on a front motor compared to a rear motor setup? The price seems right, and is a Cycle Analyst required for these motors, I would hazard a guess that the temp is crucial to view.

 

[GoreD]

I do not see the 400W motor for $300 you are talking about on the website. Unless you are talking about the Crystalyte HS2240 Front Hub Motor in 26 inch wheel. I dont know what the HS2240 is good for compared to the HS3540. Oh I see thats a front wheel, better then a 9C. Whats the riding like on a front motor compared to a rear motor setup? The price seems right, and is a Cycle Analyst required for these motors, I would hazard a guess that the temp is crucial to view.

You are right there is no more 400W ezee. I misread a for sale thread from last year so I'm sure its all gone.

the new question is between a geared MAC motor (8T) from cell man or the crystallite 3540 from ebikes .ca

I am trying to compormis between speed and the huge hills around here.

leaning towards the 48v plastic pack that cellman has, only problem. is that its limited to 25a.

the tough decisions in life.

I still want to be able to ride/pedal without a battery which is why I steer towards the MAC. but the 3540 seems good too.