Nucular Electronics owner's thread (setup infos, FW updates, links etc.)

It turns out that current with the brake on is a show stopper for my idea. Current draw with the controller on is a tiny 20mA, which is great, less than 1/8th of what I've seen with any controllers with the power potential of the Nuc 12F, however, with the ebrake applied (I use a throttle for the variable ebrake), the current jumps to 250mA.

On the bright side, we pulled a bonehead move and at some point during our program settings we put the turn off setting back to "Button" instead of "Switch". I did numerous On/Off switching with the mode set to "Switch", and it proved reliable with or without the display connect, which is good news.

For the DC/DC converter I'll have to switch the Negative, and Vasily told me to be absolutely sure to protect the Com line from seeing pack voltage using a diode, because high voltage there will wreck the controller. Just to be extra safe, I think I'll put 2 diodes in series. I don't know if a diode failure can be a closed circuit, but for a few cents I don't want to learn the hard way. I don't think I can switch a CA on at the negative side, since it needs a direct line to the shunt, so that means a switch for the CA unless I want to get fancy with a relay that opens and closes with the converse of a switch to use those other wires of the motorcycle key switch. I've never had a CA on a switch, so that will be nice to measure charge energy to calibrate myself with SOC at different at rest voltages of my battery packs. The only instrumentation on a number of my ebikes is a voltmeter, which I have gotten away with for 12 years due to my conservative DoD despite being only loosely calibrated. In 12 years I've hit LVC only twice, and both times was less than a mile from a charger and knew I was cutting it close. One of those was when LFP was down and we had a good headwind the last few miles that ate up the remaining capacity, but he towed me the rest of the way, so still only one "walk of shame" on a 50 mile outing in 2009 when I didn't properly factor in enough net increase in altitude and headwind for the return trip. Too bad I didn't have Nuc's back then as I would have had capacity to spare with the higher efficiency. :mrgreen:
 
I try to set up the 3 speed switch.
I have it connected to the controller. I am using s1 and s3, and I have set up them for s2 and s3. As I understand it that should mean speed 2 and 3. I can see in the controller that they switch from 0 to 1 when i press the switch. But on the display it still shows s1, and when I test drive I am still on setting 1.
Am I missing something?
 
I dont have a sd card reader for the computer, but this is what i have done:

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And I have checked that it reacts:

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I didn't find anything else I needed to change.
 
It is not a big thing, I have discovered the "hot keys" on the display, I am using that now.
But something I would really want is to be able to turn on the lights with the hot keys, it doesn't seem like that is possible now?
Like ground one of the connections on the controller when I hold one of the buttons to control a relay.
 
Dual Nucs is working great on my 6 phase motors. I can't wait till the master slave option is up and running, so my display gives system stats.

One difference I found that is different from the Control support section recommendation is when using a switch for on/off, setting one controller to source from CAN gives inconsistent power up results. Sometimes only one controller turns on. I get 100% consistency with both controllers set to "Switch" for power on/off.
 
VasiliSk said:
What version did you use atm?
Configuration looks right, i guess you need to update.

I dont remember the version, it was the one it came with..
However, I used "remote" in control mode. But I am pretty sure that I tested auto too.
Anyway, later I set it to auto again. Then it worked.

Now I have updated the controller and display, and it works just fine :)
 
j bjork said:
Yes, I understand that. That is why I was so sure that I tried auto, then shanged to remote when it did´nt work.
But when I later shanged to auto again for whatever reason, I noticed that the switch worked.

Ah, I'm not the only one with some "ghosts in the machine" activity that magically disappears. Once I settle on final settings, I plan to erase memory and reenter the settings. I have some non-applicable stats I want to clear out anyway, since my inception-to-date top speed is not 293kph. :mrgreen:
 
Hi All

I have had the 12F for while now and its been great and other day it just stopped, controller still working, but when i put it on stand its OK full speed, only when there is a load on it nothing happens, Before i tear the battery apart i thought i would ask here if any other similarities, I haven't never had this issue, this is my second controller.

I know its not loose wire or something as it wouldn't work on stand.

Maybe my BMS has killed battery, everything looks ok from BMS bluetooth not all cells are exactly same. Any ideas anyone had this issue.

Thanks guys for your help
 
what does status flag said on your load test?
if you can spin the wheel (rear lifted) than maybe battery sag kicks in.
check in display what the voltage does on accelerate.

or for a quick try set your LVC to 10v
 
Merlin said:
what does status flag said on your load test?
if you can spin the wheel (rear lifted) than maybe battery sag kicks in.
check in display what the voltage does on accelerate.

or for a quick try set your LVC to 10v

Ill give it a go tonight see what i see, thanks for input, I don't think its the battery as its not that old maybe there is one bad cell i can see all my sells from bluetooth BMS and there is one like .40 difference which i thought wouldn't be enough to be bad.

other option is to remove the BMS and see if still persists as that would be the causing factor also

Thanks for your help
 
0.4 is the beginning of a diyng block.
is this maybe an ANT BMS? i read alot of dead battery(donno why)

if you dont have size problems about an BMS...avoid this one. had 2 of them and the BT connection sux too.

i bet your cell group 0.4v kicks in. set your bms lvc for the cells to 2.0v if possible. (or bypass when you have connectors between)
 
So i went home and did some screenshots of the BMS maybe i was incorrect in the voltage and it doesnt look bad but maybe someone can shed some lite.


I would like to get rid of BMS and just use Battery medics but its major operation as i just fit the 7P in Futr Beta LOL

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I don't know if this has already been discussed here, but I would like to know if it is possible that you can switch between trottle and passensor via one of the three settings? So you can easily switch between road-legal and off-road :wink:
 
Yes you can
 
Is anyone running dual Nuc's and having issues with crazy wrong stats for some of the line items in General and User stat pages that they can't reset? Does the "Master Controller" setting do anything if you're running the inputs directly to the display?
 
Hello Nucular Owners,
I am a happy new owner of a Nucular 24F (Order 454C).
Just installled it on my Surron.
Like said in the Wiki I did Auto-setup - Full setup.
During first test drive on straight road and Mode S3 a full throttle stops the motor suddenly and throttle is not responding any more.
This is repeatable. Dispaly sometimes shuts off, sometimes with flickering headlight and throttle
is not responding after motor stops.
After about 30sec. and keyswitch it drives like nothing happend.
In Mode S1 and S2 no Issue, but in mode S1 the bike is barely moving from start.
During test drive with S3 without load (90kg) also no Issue.
Firmware up to date, stock Battary at % 90, checked motor pole-pair 5.
Is the cause in the parameters?
Thank you for your suggestions.
 
Bro....

Your surron battery bms cuts off your juice...

Anything more than 90a will switch off your bike for 30 sec

If you upgrade your surron to 3 times the power your battery have to get some upgrades too :D
 
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