Reports from Eurobike 2011
- Thread starter Miles
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panurge
10 kW
Hi guys,
My Time in Eurobike and Berlin is really interesting......and tiring....
Unfortunately I've not found a lot of time to take photos or vids....anyway I start to upload what I got....
The Pinion MotorizedGearbox
A German-A prototype
Jules
My Time in Eurobike and Berlin is really interesting......and tiring....
Unfortunately I've not found a lot of time to take photos or vids....anyway I start to upload what I got....
The Pinion MotorizedGearbox
A German-A prototype
Jules
panurge
10 kW
In a rigorous random order
panurge
10 kW
)....misses a couple of full Ti hubs.... 
Thanks Jules!
The motorised Pinion looks interesting... but heavy...
More on the Norland here:
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/norland-cycles-stealth-part-2-2011.html
http://www.bikerumor.com/2011/01/04/norland-cycles-downhill-bike-project/
[youtube]BkjnTry-EQ0[/youtube]
The motorised Pinion looks interesting... but heavy...
More on the Norland here:
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/norland-cycles-stealth-part-2-2011.html
http://www.bikerumor.com/2011/01/04/norland-cycles-downhill-bike-project/
[youtube]BkjnTry-EQ0[/youtube]
panurge
10 kW
Yes, I've spent a bit of time talking with him and looking his HTfiber frame and jackshaft drive....really interesting...
The motorised Pinion Is heavy and, with their tipical timetable, maybe a 2 yearsbefore to see any kind of production is needed....and cause the gearbox price, is around 700Euro (OEM), don't want to know the price for this...
I have a plastic version of the gearbox they give me for a frame build.....for a full susp, compared to a complete XTR, the price is not so far....but the weight...
What I found interesting during the trip about Electrics (remember that I'm a newbe for most of this world....):
Last Gruber is now really noiseless....
Bosch System in many interpretation. (In Berlin some guys has haked it via software+some little Hardware replacements for more than 4x the power...)
Cleanmobile coaxial motor....a net design....but with big diameter and heavy...
Interesting pushertrailers also with RPM Crank pedelec sensors.
A lot of battery case models from frame incorporated through bottle-style to Hub-included.....also I've found a good source for Japan Li-Mn batteries I think...
From my side A lot of interest on our wheels....eheh, a rear 29 complete wheel with sapim spokes and a beautiful handmade Dugast tubular.....
The motorised Pinion Is heavy and, with their tipical timetable, maybe a 2 yearsbefore to see any kind of production is needed....and cause the gearbox price, is around 700Euro (OEM), don't want to know the price for this...
I have a plastic version of the gearbox they give me for a frame build.....for a full susp, compared to a complete XTR, the price is not so far....but the weight...
What I found interesting during the trip about Electrics (remember that I'm a newbe for most of this world....):
Last Gruber is now really noiseless....Bosch System in many interpretation. (In Berlin some guys has haked it via software+some little Hardware replacements for more than 4x the power...)Cleanmobile coaxial motor....a net design....but with big diameter and heavy...Interesting pushertrailers also with RPM Crank pedelec sensors.
A lot of battery case models from frame incorporated through bottle-style to Hub-included.....also I've found a good source for Japan Li-Mn batteries
I think...From my side A lot of interest on our wheels....eheh, a rear 29 complete wheel with sapim spokes and a beautiful handmade Dugast tubular.....
Attachments
panurge
10 kW
Last tranche.....
Steiner
Achiever
Nicolai...with every kind of drive.....
View attachment 6
what about this? View attachment 5
Another pinionmotor wiew
biketronic 740w x 12Kg total weight
Hope Other members can Enjoy the pics too.....I know it's hard to surprise you, Miles
Have a nice time....
Jules
Steiner
Achiever
Nicolai...with every kind of drive.....
View attachment 6what about this? View attachment 5
Another pinionmotor wiew
biketronic 740w x 12Kg total weight
Hope Other members can Enjoy the pics too.....I know it's hard to surprise you, Miles
Have a nice time....
Jules
full-throttle
1 MW
..until we find out what the $$ isMiles said:
looks good though
wonder what the specs are.. prob 200W
gtadmin
10 kW
The "smart" bike, is well, smart
panurge
10 kW
Expected Specs for the future pinion motorGB
panurge
10 kW
Maybe from these other wiew-angle..... 
TylerDurden
100 GW
^^^ Does it fit on typical frames under the existing BB?
panurge
10 kW
Inside the Achiever stand on a table there was this non-coaxial version of their system......
I ask for Info and they was a bit nebulous....it's the pedelc kit that yes, fit on standard BB.....also last year they have a non-coaxial pedelec system...Specs are the same I think: 250-350 (24-36v) and 40Nm torque, in around 5 Kg with chain or belt wheel....you can see that the crank/sensor is identical to the coaxial one (see achiever pics sent before)
Jules
Gruber-prices-specs:
I ask for Info and they was a bit nebulous....it's the pedelc kit that yes, fit on standard BB.....also last year they have a non-coaxial pedelec system...Specs are the same I think: 250-350 (24-36v) and 40Nm torque, in around 5 Kg with chain or belt wheel....you can see that the crank/sensor is identical to the coaxial one (see achiever pics sent before)
Jules
Gruber-prices-specs:
full-throttle
1 MW
Thanks for that!panurge said:
800W, 8 gears, 4.6kg is actually very good. Wonder if the crank arms are included in the weight.
panurge
10 kW
full-throttle said:
Not, Crank arms are not included and they are 364g, the shifter is 115g, only the 24t/30t sprocket is included in the 2700/4600grams. (normal/motorised)
Jules
