Safe Procedures to Connect Disconnect Battery & Reconfigure

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Since this topic of safety and battery wiring-connection procedures is not thoroughly covered in its own thread, I'm starting this thread using my battery design & reconfiguration problem for charging as an example.

I know there are more sophisticated methods to use diodes, relays, or switches to reconfigure a battery safely, but can it be done simply with plugs and jumper-plugs too? For example, I want to be able to simply reconfigure a 60v 4p8s x 2s A123 battery into a 4p16p 3.6v battery for charging.

Using connection techniques for creating a battery for simple reconfiguration...

Basics:

1) When connecting many parallel packs in series, to create the final battery in the first place, there certainly is a safe series & a safe parallel wiring-connections procedure to do this. What are these safe methods to prevent shorting and other mishaps?

For example, is there a proper sequence for connecting the parallel sub-packs or cell-groups... does one connect all the positives together first before connecting all the negatives together... or is it just the reverse? Or, flip a coin because either way is safe? :mrgreen: What about connecting in series all the parallel packs?

2) Specific example to convert a 60v battery into a charging reconfiguration of 3.6v and back to its original configuration of 60v safely using plugging or plug-jumper techniques:

A newbie problem for any experienced battery maker... Using plugs or jumper-plug techniques to enable a battery to be quickly reconfigured for charging or other voltage-amp packaging. In other words, how does one create a completed battery and wire the series connections safely, in sequence, to connect, for example, to all the 4 celled parallel batteries in 16s (packaged as 4p8s x 2s), and, then have the option, for example, to covert it into a massive 3.6v 64 cell battery of 16-4p-cells in parallel? (In my case I will have 4p8s x 2s sub-packs for the series battery and want to convert it to parallel mode.) AND... I need to make it easy to disconnect & reconnect safely for these two different configurations using plug-in or jumper-plugs for quick reconfiguration that is still safe.

I think I should be able to avoid using switches or relays with some smart plug design techniques for unplugging and/or jumper-plug the series/parallel connections and reconnecting.

:arrow: Any ideas?
 
No problem with using jumpers. Ypedal does something similar, IIRC. He's got a pair of andersons on every cell that hooks up to the chargers and gets reconfigured to the proper voltage when riding.

The main disadvantage is that it's a PITA to deal with all those connections, and accidentally plugging one in the wrong way is not going to be good.
 
Link said:
No problem with using jumpers. Ypedal does something similar, IIRC. He's got a pair of andersons on every cell that hooks up to the chargers and gets reconfigured to the proper voltage when riding.
Ypedal said:
Color code your connectors, and if using andersons arrange the connectors to prevent accidental shorts.

Fuses !!!

Cable lenght can also be a good way to keep things in check.. i have short charging wires( 16 gauge ) and long discharge wires ( red 10 gauge ).

Thanks! Link & Ypedal. :)

Will this idea work or be too susceptible to shorting? I will use two ribbon plugs. One for each 8s side to disconnect the two-sided series connections shown below. Each side will fit on opposite sides of the bike, unless I can get it all to fit under the angled front to lower rear down tube as a 4p16s. :p

:arrow: I assume the 2 plugs will not melt when pulling amps from the 100amp-controller @ 60v 40amp with bursts to ? :oops:

View attachment Battery Charging Connections.jpg
View attachment 3.6v 100amp DC.jpg
 
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