Should I buy this battery?

dingoEsride

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Saw this on ebay and I wanted to click buy now

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130380738444&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
 
Perfect for a 250 watt bike.
 
That is a killer price. He has been on Ebay a while as I watch it all the time. Look at this one he has listed, it's more money for less http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130319847428&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
It is a round cell pack and you can bet it's only like 11 or 12ah when tested, but I have those packs along with the Ping packs. Pings are lighter and smaller. The round cells seem to be pretty good if you get a good one. Pay with PayPal and you can always dispute the pack if it's no good. They don't want NEGATIVE feedback or lookers like you won't buy. It's a great price and with fast shipping.
I need to stop looking at batteries, I HAVE WAY TOO MANY.
Dan
 
i think you should buy it so we have some data. that is cheap. would be good to know if they have problems, and what they look like inside when or if you do have problems.
 
I wonder what the additional price is for the "optional 5A charger". Would be curious to see how it goes, and I agree if you have the cash to leave tied up for a month or 2 (in-case you have to dispute it in paypal) then go for it.
 
DAND214 said:
It is a round cell pack and you can bet it's only like 11 or 12ah when tested, but I have those packs along with the Ping packs. Pings are lighter and smaller

@DAND214 Seing as you have tried them how do they compare to a similar ping pac besides being heavier or are their amphour rating not as they claim?
 
I bought a 48 volt 20 amp hour v-power battery from cammy_cc through ebay auction for $290 and it came with 5 amp charger and BMS included. Shipping would have been free if i wanted to wait for a couple of months. I chose to pay for faster shipping and got it in less than 2 weeks. I am completely happy with this battery so far. I don't know who the manufacturer is for your battery in question but a previous poster says they have a track record of sales. I also have a ping and it is a good battery just more expensive. And Headways...
 
dingotookmybaby, As I said they are not tested as listed they all seem to be 20% off rated ah. It does seem that they are faster as the peak voltage is higher longer but they drop like rocks or NiCads. I have a 48v 20 a that tests to 17.5a the {3)48v 15a all were between 11 and 13ah. They seem to give me better top end for a short time over the Pings but when they are near the lvc it's all over.
Dan
 
In addition to the good advice you've received about the real amperage of the pack, I'd check via email that it is gauranteed to be 12s. I've seen a few dodgy adverts for 36v lifepo4 in recent weeks wherein, if you look at the fine print or ask the seller specifically, they are actually selling 10s (usually 10s2p made with 5Ah cells). Even some of the more established sellers like cohinsmotor are doing it, but at least they're upfront on their website (Yet, how many of their purchasers actually know the difference between 10s and 12s and can therefore understand that what they're getting is NOT cheap?) The hot off the charger voltage may be close to 36 (and, even then, they've probably set the BMS and/or charger to allow overcharging which will decrease the life expectancy of the pack) but, when combined with the fact that these are made with 1C pouches, the surface voltage will disappear in no time. The suitable for a 250w claim makes me even more suspicious that what they've got is actually a 10s3p 30v (i.e. THIRTY volt) battery. A 5A charger for 1C cells? (also dodgy - even the 2A charger might over do it)

However, having stated all that... if you live in the land of the dingos, as is indicated by your username, a 30v might be a nice way of keeping close to 250W if you want to be almost legal. Just be careful that your controller and/or bms doesn't have low voltage cut-off at 31v, as many of the 36v controllers do.

To my mind, pre-made headway packs are the best bet for 36v shipped to Australasia. I got a 12Ah 12s1p sent out from china for US$350 incl shipping recently. That included capacity based balancing and headways which are stated as 5C but, even if they're only 3C, that's good for my present needs, and for expansion if I go to a higher rated (and probably illegal here in NZ) motor.
 
toaroa said:
However, having stated all that... if you live in the land of the dingos, as is indicated by your username, a 30v might be a nice way of keeping close to 250W if you want to be almost legal. Just be careful that your controller and/or bms doesn't have low voltage cut-off at 31v, as many of the 36v controllers do.

Yes true, the land of Oz, I have a 500 watter and the lvc is at 31 volts but i'm more interested in range than speed regardless of whats legal as I pedal also and don't go faster than a bicycle anyway, a 15ah ping will fit nicely in my battery box where as a 20ah is too big,

Thanks for the advice all, I think I'll go pings after all

Cheers Mark
 
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