Slime versus Ride-On

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Lottsa threads on ES about tire protectors and slime...

Regarding the slime products, when folks tap about "slime" are they referring to the actual product made by SLiME aka Accessories Marketing, Inc.:
http://www.slime.com/category_3_Tire-Sealant.html

or are they using the word "slime" but referring to the "Ride-On Tire Protection System (TPS) Bike-Onâ„¢ Formula" from Inovex Industries, Inc.
http://www.ride-on.com/prod_bike-on.asp

I've seen a couple of online posts suggesting the Ride-On product may be "better".

Just curious if anyone on ES is familiar with both these products? Any other "slime-like" products out there? The subject of slime came up a few weeks ago in a meeting in meat space and I was told that Harley-Davidsons etc come with tires already "slimed" but that the Harley etc product actually filled the whole tire with some sort of low density closed-cell foam. Looking at SLiME and Ride-On neither of these products appear to act this way...

Tks
l0cK
 
When i say "Slime" i mean the green shit in the tube you squirt into your innertubes, NOT the tire.. I have been using it in my wheelchair inner tubes since mid 1990's and haven't scored a total flat since doing so, the slime has always successfully sealed the leaks. I don't by the shit they sell at bike shops though, gotto the car accessory shop and get the stuff for cars has slightly bigger chunks in it i believe, also shitload cheaper than what bike stores charge.

KiM
 
When I talk about slime, I refer to the Slime brand, green stuff. I also shun the thin stuff that comes in the bike section of the store, as well as the pre filled tubes. I get the large bottles meant for quads and 4x4's that has bigger chunks and a better price per oz. I will take one bottle intended for a 16" truck tire and fill 3 bike tires. So it's about a pound of slime in each tire.

Why so much? this is why.View attachment mesquite thorn.jpg
 
Wow, I wonder what I must be doing wrong, I have tried using that slime on my ATV tires and NEVER had any success, and this is with stuff I got at a local car store.

Now just to clarify, it's only for tube-type tire tubes, not for tubeless?
 
LI-ghtcycle said:
Now just to clarify, it's only for tube-type tire tubes, not for tubeless?
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No...they also make a product for use in tubeless tires its different to the slime
for inner tubes apparently

http://slime.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=1

KiM
 
That tubeless stuff in the gallon pump jug is what I use, because at HF they had it on sale for what one of the single-bike-use tube-type stuff costs at some places. :roll:

Plus, it'll stop holes in the tire itself if the tube somehow gets shredded despite the liner, from a nail or something, or if you have no liner. This I've tested without meaning to, or even realising, until I took the wheel off back when I started some of the early Crazybike2 motor experiments. I found the tube had been cut over an inch by something (no longer in the tire or tube, maybe glass) and I'd forgotten to put the liner in (which would've stopped it) but the chunky tubeless slime I'd used in the tube in overly generous quantity had plugged the tire's hole(s), as it poured out of the tube. Apparently it happened fast enough that I didn't notice the pressure drop, and the soap seals on the bead were good enough to hold air with the 50-60PSI or so I usually have in my tires.

I haven't tried testing it that way again, but I'm confident enough that it would work, as long as the bead stays sealed. (if that doesn't seal, it's almost certain I could not re-air it up with a hand pump, and would require a fast compressor to do it fast enough to seal the bead during inflation).
 
It works best with thicker rubber to work with, so it works best with thick truck tires, and no tube. On bikes I run the thick tubes so the slime has more rubber to grab to plugging the hole. Use a lot of it. I run at least double the amount recomended, or triple on the dirtbike.
 
Another product the locals here swear by is Stan's. I've just started to use it, but no flats yet. I suspect it's pricier than Slime. I've had mixed success with Slime - I would NOT recommend the Slime tubes (pre-Slimed). The thinner ones - e.g. for 700C tires - are terrible. We have a real problem with goat heads in the fall but I don't have any road time on Slime vs. Stan's to compare them.
 
Actually Stan's is for tube or tubeless. It bills itself for tubeless, but if you read the instructions, it works for both. BTW, let me know if you're using presta tubes - it's a little trickier to fill these tubes - you have to remove the brass knurled nut before squirting in the goo.
 
Just wish to add another SLiME-like product to this thread, seen here:
http://www.geax.com/home/

Geax describe themselves as
Our brand wasn’t born in a laboratory or big industrial marketing group. Nor was it borrowed from the automotive or any other industry. Instead, it was bred from the very roots of mountain biking: passion, dedication and love of the outdoors.
Since the early ‘90’s, Geax has developed a range full of technologies that have propelled countless riders to the top, and continues to do so to this day.
We are unique and exclusive, designing and manufacturing tyres specifically for your sport, your lifestyle, your passion.
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...and in addition to their tires they list a range of "Pit Stop Sealants" here:
http://www.geax.com/en/accessories/?cat=7&prod=71

Descriptions for a couple of their products:
PITSTOP TNT 250ml - 1L
Preventive and sealing liquid latex. Created for TNT tyres, it can also be used with standard UST without any problem. Put it into the tyre before use, it creates a protective film inside the casing sealing porosities and holes, airproofing TNT tyres. It works also as a preventive liquid for further punctures.

PIT STOP & PITSTOP MAGNUM
Repairs and inflates a 26x2.0 tyre (26x2.7 Magnum) from 0 to 2.0 bar in just 30-40 seconds. Contains 50ml (75ml Magnum) of natural latex (to avoid damaging the butyl inner tube or tubeless membrane). New, revolutionary head to adapt instantly to any kind of valve, without air leaks. Lightweight, practical, disposable cartridge. The foam remains liquid inside the tyre for 3 months (more if the environmental conditions are good).

GTT GEAX TUBELESS THERAPY
Special treatment for tubeless tyres. Puncture preventive and effective for up to 2 years after application. Only 95 g weight increase per wheel. Seals tread punctures and cuts up to 3 mm in length.


tks
LocK
 
And ANOTHER one... from Italian tire maker Vittoria:
http://www.vittoria.com/

With stuff they also call "Pit Stop":
http://www.vittoria.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8165&Itemid=197

Which they describe as:
The first inflate and repair cartridge ideal for both tubulars and tyres!
- inflates a 21-28" tubular up to 6,5 bar (enough to get home and increase pressure with a pump) and a tyre from 0 to 6 bar;
- pemanently repairs punctures in tubulars/tyres thanks to the special pure latex foam contained in the mixture
- offers 3 months of prevention.
- universal head: excellent for Presta, Schrader

Which makes me think this is just the Geax stuff re-branded...

tks
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My 1st experience with Slime brand tire sealant - 10 tears ago on a cheapo mnt bike - picked-up dozens of really nasty thorn damage all at once. There would've been no way to save the tube - it was literally a sieve for most, if not all of the diameter. Feeling lazy, it was such a cheapo bike and since the only auto store available didn't carry bike tubes, I decided why not try Slime?

When 1st aired-up you could see the green shit coming out all over the tread but soon stopped and from that point on that bike held air pressure better than it ever had. That "repair" lasted for 7 years that I know and is probably still holding with the person I gave the bike.

Since then, 'always add some to every build and just figure it as tire insurance. Anybody riding electric knows the trouble a flat on wheel motor can be. Hell, it's no fun on a regular bike but without short wires and quick electrical connectors a hub motor flat tire is a very bad problem to have.

I respectfully disagree about overfilling bicycle tires with the stuff. I guess I do about 3-5oz per tire? Much more than that and I can feel it through the bars on un-powered front wheels . Maybe, the rear with hub motor isn't such a big deal?

Thorns, nails, screws, pallet staples, etc. Have hit all of it many times over and if not for Slime, I would've been walking. Most times I repair with patch but if small enough I remember how it stopped those dozens of thorn holes many years ago and just pull the debris out and keep rolling.

Of course, I'm not dealing with much over 20MPH bikes. If I regularly rode above 25MPH I wouldn't knowingly rely on just Slime.
 
The overfill is for the thorns that go through the sidewall. It takes a lot to coat the entire tube instead of just the part that centripital force covers. With my area I can easily have a thorn in the bottom come out the side, or if the air gets low, puncture along the rim tape. It does affect handling, but I don't feel it since all my bikes have it that way. It would affect handling a lot more with a different kind of bike. I don't run near as much slime in my roadbike , it stays on the paved. But the MTB with 2.7" knobbies is already a heavy pig so WT Heck? On my commuter, It sometimes goes on dirt so it gets the full treatment.

An alternative would be carrying a small jug of slime and a pump, and putting it in only when needed out on the road. That way the weight could be carried off the wheel.
 
dogman said:
The overfill is for the thorns that go through the sidewall. It takes a lot to coat the entire tube instead of just the part that centripital force covers. With my area I can easily have a thorn in the bottom come out the side, or if the air gets low, puncture along the rim tape. It does affect handling, but I don't feel it since all my bikes have it that way. It would affect handling a lot more with a different kind of bike. I don't run near as much slime in my roadbike , it stays on the paved. But the MTB with 2.7" knobbies is already a heavy pig so WT Heck? On my commuter, It sometimes goes on dirt so it gets the full treatment.

An alternative would be carrying a small jug of slime and a pump, and putting it in only when needed out on the road. That way the weight could be carried off the wheel.
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Different needs, different ways my friend. Here in the city, not many thorns in the sidewalls but you sure can feel heaviness in the front wheel when going fast on paved surfaces with a tube full of that stuff. And trying to get the excess out is another excersize in frustration, LOL... It seems to go in a lot easier than trying to squeeze it back out through the valve stem. Goes to prove it will plug a fairly big hole.

btw - dog lover here, you rock!
 
I bought some extra thick tubes at walmart filled with slime. They are very tough but when I try to deflate them to change tires the slime clogs the valve. Easy fix, I bought some valve core remover tube caps at a automotive store. When ever I need to deflate them I just take out the valve core or sometimes I need to remove the valve cores to clean them just so I can inflate the tires. :roll:
 
Found another one... "NitroSeal"
http://www.nitrolube.com/products/nitroseal/
NitroSeal is a 100% Bio-degradable, Nitrogen enhanced, environmentally safe, non-toxic, high viscosity liquid gel that is installed directly into the cavity of a tire, either through the valve stem or before mounting wheel assembly.

After 3 years of development and extensive evaluations, engineered, tested and proven in the market place, NitroSeal’s unique technology Casing Gel has a “New Formulation concept in tire technology” not to be confused with the latex/silicon/polymer based sealants or sticky goopy stop flat type products.

NitroSeal is a new concept in Tire Casing Protection to extend and protect the tire’s CASING core from deteriorating, while enhancing tire performance and being Nitrogen enriched your tires run cooler and offers longer tire casing life. This reduces tire waste and consumes less natural resources saving money on overall tire expenses.

NitroSeal plugs holes or gashes as large as 1/2″, allowing the vehicle to continue to operate at high speeds and preventing downtime. It provides sealing of the wheel rim – tire bead flange, resulting in less irregular tire wear/longer tread life and providing less fuel consumption. NitroSeal will not affect tire warranties and is safe to use with TPMS systems.(Tire Pressure Monitoring System)

NitroSeal is a “Tire Management Solution” for the Trucking industry, Construction, Heavy Equipment, Recreational vehicles, Boats & Horse trailers and ATV’s where air loss and flat tires are an issue. It is Re-Tread approved and safe for tire patching. We provide unconditional product performance guarantee.

NitroSeal is an environmentally “GREEN” Product. It is safe to handle and is non-toxic. The product can be washed away with water and is safe for disposal.
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...and it's Canadian, eh...
tks
loC
 
Hmmmm, I wonder...sounds good. Maybe a test will be in order someday, eh?
 
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