Some people are idiots!

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deronmoped

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So a father goes around the railroad crossing arms and gets hit by a trolley. He ends up with a broken hip and his 4-year-old girl is dead. And the girl was the one wearing the helmet, justice would have it the other way around.

Who is stupid enough to try and beat out a trolley, yet even more stupid to do it with your daughter on your bike. :cry:

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/jul/27/bn27trolley-girl-mourned/?metro&zIndex=139256

Deron.
 
Agree, shocking numbers of idiots out there. In grade school through high school, I was allways in the same accelerated class group of folks. Upon starting colledge, I was amazed to find 80% of the classmates were total idiots. I had gotten sorta used to being the dumb one in the group in high school. Also just as startling was how incredibly smart the top 1% was in colledge, compared to high school where nothing was all that challenging and the smart ones blended in more. I quickly realized it was better to be the smart one among idiots in construction rather than compete with geniuses for a lab job.
 
:roll: reid here he iz an id-jot. :roll:

ID JOT. We rite too much. Always we tawk of hisseff.

He is an idiot.

We all know it.

No wonder the freight train has run him down more than once.

~~~

Chapter, Verse, from "Ruthless Rhymes for Heartless Homes",
ca. 1894 (or nearly from that book, which was all the rage of the era)

"Jesus,reid!!" paraphrase-parrots, from memory, sweet:


Little Willie
On the tracks
Did not hear
The Engine squeal.

Now the Engine's coming back.
They're scraping Willie off the wheel.

___________________________________________________________
 
poor little girl...

this is why i think people need to have a license to have children. you must pass a few test first to get the license.

test would be things like:

1. locate your elbow
2. what color is red?
3. tie your shoe
4. count to 10
5. name an animal

i bet there would be people who fail the test.
 
mikefish said:
i bet there would be people who fail the test.
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I want to disbelieve this so badly, yet I can't seem to bring myself to do it...
 
Link said:
mikefish said:
i bet there would be people who fail the test.
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I want to disbelieve this so badly, yet I can't seem to bring myself to do it...
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One of my customers is an elderly lady in the U.S. goverment. One day they greeted me at 11:00 AM with "Good afternoon!" I checked the clock and mentioned it wasn't past 12 yet, good morning. She corrected me that Afternoon starts at 11 AM!

... sometimes its better just to agree and move on....


As a good friend likes to point out: Half the world is below average.
 
Drunkskunk said:
As a good friend likes to point out: Half the world is below average.
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...and average is just such a low bar to get over. I find it best to simply accept that most people are idiots. Then there's no disappointment in the general dumbness that you run across, and your day can be brightened by contact with those of reasonable intelligence. If you expect 0 then whatever you get is a bonus. Also, it's good to keep in mind that the world needs that bottom 50% too, since someone has to do those jobs.

Down here I'm confronted with the double whammy of general dumbness + general laziness. On those occasions that I run across someone who both has a clue and works hard, I make it a point to look them in the eye and offer some kind of compliment that covers both aspects. It has an amazing effect that I notice on subsequent encounters...like we're members in a secret club that those surrounding us have no clue exists.

John
 
I'm just an epsilon..

BTW what are you guys talking about. :D
 
John in CR said:
Drunkskunk said:
As a good friend likes to point out: Half the world is below average.
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Also, it's good to keep in mind that the world needs that bottom 50% too, since someone has to do those jobs.
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While a solacing sentiment, it's one that I generally disagree with. It implies that only "idiots" take the "idiotic jobs" and I don't think that's true. If only idiotic jobs existed, even the smart ones would take them for they would be an idiot to not take a job (a "job" in many forms, including self-employment). Demotion/expulsion of some smart ones happens often during recessions.

Also, if smarter people existed, there'd be more people getting other entities to do the menial tasks. This comes through the form of inventions, automation and robots which has been ramping up over the past century. Meanwhile, manufacturing and low-end jobs have been slowly disappearing while higher-intellect and creativity has been increasingly rewarded through various forms of jobs. The more smart people there are, the faster technology and automation of the menial tasks improves. Over all, I'd strongly prefer a greater proportion of smarter and more creative people than currently exist - there'd be more creation and technological benefit to the humanity. I don't think there's an "optimum point" along that continuum either - more would always improve technological development. (But there could be, I just don't think there is.).

In essence, society and its jobs emerge from the existing population's wants and needs - not that an arbitrary pool of jobs exist and that people are forced into their narrow lot. As the population changes (in relevant ways), the population's wants, needs, creativity and productivity changes and so would the pool of jobs and job types to fulfill those wants and needs.
 
define "idiot"? It used to be a medical-persons' term. "moron" is below "idiot", and so on.

Web definitions for idiot
a person of subnormal intelligence
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn - Definition in context
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Definition of Idiot from dictionary.net
Free online English dictionary. We define idiot as NIdiot \Id'i*ot\, n. [F. idiot, L. idiota an uneducated,ignorant, ill-informed person, Gr. ?, also..
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idiot: Definition, Synonyms from Answers.com
idiot n. A foolish or stupid person. A person of profound mental retardation having a mental age below three years and generally being unable to.
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All I know is that I do some idiot things, just to keep in practice.

These exercises include using an angle grinder with no shield, and slicing quarter through one knuckle,
Pedaling round a tight traffic circle (CRASH),
Trying to "fix" The System, may well prove to the whole world that "the reid" is an idiot, or Don Quixote.

Wanna meet some genuine morons of the distant past?
Will look for a YT viddy; perhaps a clip of Todd Browning's "FREAKS" is online...

The Pinhead was one of a pair, and was a certifiable moron, of about the same intelligence as a dog.
I love dogs. Dogs are mostly all "idiots" or lower, and I admire them because they are pure and happy,
and rarely "effed up" in the head. Look at the pinhead "girl", microcephalic? She's happy and cute and a charmer.
"She" (I think it is a male, but dressed as a girl) was non-verbal, but not non-responsive to human touches and smiles.

[youtube]bBXyB7niEc0[/youtube]
I hold forth, friends (I am not your teacher), that between second marker six and fourteen, you see the absolute goal
of human life: pure, perfect, honest joy. What is to pity? I'd have "her" for a sister and be enriched by the relationship.


It's one of the great films of cinema history, and one of the most misunderstood of all films, ever: widely banned when it was first released.

But, get a copy, and see WHO are the real freaks? It is the 'normals', those two you see there, in particular.
The little people, the legless, armless ones, are perfect humans, after all. The finish of the film is a horror.
Frankenstein was yet to come...and did not beat "Freaks" for sheer shock value. Mirrors held a'fore our faces... :|

addendum: WHO HERE would be happy to be an "idiot", for real? My IQ is 118, which is said, not to boast, because that's just eighteen points higher than the norm.

I'd be "happier" by far if I were a dull normal. Fact. I'd have no neurotic fears, no nightmares, no guilts.
I'd probably be a bricklayer or stucco-man, doing the same work year in and year out, perfectly happy
that I can/could make perfectly true and square walls. And when old and gray, point out my "works of life" to my family
or friends: "I built that! I made that! Isn't that wall pretty and straight as an arrow?"

Yes, I'd be able to say, then, "I'm proud to be a sub-normal". But I can never say that I'm "proud" to be above average in some departments
of mental acuity. It is a curse to be too intelligent. Word-smart people suffer, and are often their only, worst enemies. Witness =me=.

I weep at times. Alone.
 
deronmoped said:
So a father goes around the railroad crossing arms and gets hit by a trolley. He ends up with a broken hip and his 4-year-old girl is dead. And the girl was the one wearing the helmet, justice would have it the other way around.

Who is stupid enough to try and beat out a trolley, yet even more stupid to do it with your daughter on your bike. :cry:

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/jul/27/bn27trolley-girl-mourned/?metro&zIndex=139256

Deron.
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Just to do two things: get this thread back on its intended track.

And also, please to allow me to remind: stupid people are the beautiful, lucky people. PROOF:

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Now BACK to the topic.
I am so tired of my pedagogue-o-logical , holier-than thou, selfish, self. :| :| :| :|

"please to..." = a quaint nineteenth century, female , USA, affectation.

It somehow fits me as Kindly Mizz Doudy,
for I role-play as "her", too.

"My finest silks are too fine..for you!"

The idiot rag picker:
 
nutsandvolts said:
swbluto said:
manufacturing and low-end jobs have been slowly disappearing while higher-intellect and creativity has been increasingly rewarded through various forms of jobs.
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... until they are outsourced, globalized, right-sized ... then many are forced back into low-end jobs ...
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That's a fairly localized view. I'm sure some people in India and China would say their jobs are becoming more technologically advanced, so it seems a "global average" is a more appropriate measure. Outsourcing is really just the local growing pains of an increasingly interconnected world - no longer is the pool of jobs restricted by the geographically fortunate, it is becoming a true global meritocracy.

In the coming years, you'll probably see a convergence. There'd be high-tech jobs for Americans, just as long as they're willing to work for the same wage as global peers. I guess some Americans just decide the "lower tech" jobs just happen to be more locally bound, so they're more tied to the local salary index than the global one, so they earn more. Slowly, the "low tech" jobs will also be displaced by automation and robots. (And on-call PC repair isn't one them, yet!)
 
Anyone know of any online IQ tests that are legit? For fun I did one online was rated a genius, went back and did it again and answered them all as wrong as I could and was still rated a genius. Of course they were selling more in depth evaluations.
 
nutsandvolts said:
swbluto said:
,There'd be high-tech jobs for Americans, just as long as they're willing to work for the same wage as global peers.
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It's not possible to live here on those wages. It's not that simple. IBM is way ahead of you: they want you to globalize yourself. Think of it as an exotic cross-cultural adventure.
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It's true that most people choose to live in a way that fits the norms of their local society, so their wages must exceed the corresponding level of consumption or at least come close enough to it. As a global peer, you have the choice of moving. Of course, that's slightly impractical and so jobs are shifted to ones that are more geographically bound (Usually ones that involve relatively expensive-to-ship goods and/or expensive investable equipment(Like medical equipment and hospitals) and people, hehe, the last one in reference to "the service sector"). It still is all a relatively local phenomena in the not-too-far from the zero sum game of economics, and global society is advancing as a whole. When the world as a whole becomes more educated and connected with the rest of the world, worldly output increases and the general longterm trend is that of a more technologically advanced society. The previously privileged will of course pout over when they lose their privileges, but sacrifices are expected from the arbitrarily advantaged during equalization.

'$$$' and 'wealth' is only a proxy for "economic wealth" and not necessarily su dineros. It could also represent technological development and/or income levels for globally competitive jobs (i.e., the out-sourcable ones).

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I really do wonder the effect of technological advancement on income equality, though. There's more equality between different countries, sure, but what about about the income equality within a given area? It seems that technological advancement would disproportionately displace low-skilled workers and demand higher-tech workers, so I'd imagine that things might become a little more unequal between "the classes". And, yeah, the CEOs are increasingly rewarded by outsourcing, so the income disparities between "higher tech" workers and CEOs may become even higher, still.

I'm lucky enough to be relatively young so I can still orient my career direction away from vulnerable industries but I have a feeling an increasing share of jobs are becoming vulnerable to global pressure and I have a hard time predicting which market sectors other than "software" and "consulting / tele-customer-care" would become increasingly vulnerable.
 
As someone who had their previous career sent to Bangalore earlier this decade; I'm with nutz on this one. Of course, I made out fine, got a better-paying gig.

My former employer, on the other hand, realized the addage: 'you get what you pay for' the 'hard way.' I say the 'hard way' because, while they lost many of their customers due to quality control issues (plus they lied to them and said the positions were still staffed in N. America, that didn't help) they decided to bring the jobs back to the states. They found a state willing to bribe them with tax incentives (23 mil to be exact) and brought the jobs back.
 
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