Steve'o Norco VPS buzz 2001 5304 RWD Before & After..

[steveo]

Pics will do most of the talking in this post ...

The beginning ..

during ..

Mounting the controller..

Headlight .. i melted the reflector and lens when trying a bulb that was to hot .. now i'm stuck trying to make something with what i have left.. hmm

diy drop outs.. that are ok for now .. i need something more stronger

sproket side

DIsc brake .. can anyone suggest help with this ..

near the after...

I'm running a 36v setup for now .. due to the fear of breaking the torque arms ... notice the breaker i put in .. 50amp...

 

[TylerDurden]

Woof.

DC circuitbreaker? Make, model?

 

[Link]

I spy no chain. Any particular reason you didn't spring for a, uh, sprocket?

 

[steveo]

link..

i have'nt installed it yet that is all .. i have to fix the suspension pivot point... i did the top one for the suspention .. i need to do the bottom one near the crank .. i have to bring it to the bike shop to have it removed...

TylerDurden

i think its a 120vdc circuit breaker... i think off hand .. good for 50 amps should work fine .. hasn't poped on me yet.. ..

 

[Ypedal]

That's one beefy lookin bike !!! = I like it ! 8)

The frame looks like it has 135mm stock spacing, and that frame will not strech..

Best bet if you insist on staying with the X5 is to go with high-end rim brakes.


The front brakes will provide alot of stopping power, good quality V's on the rear would get you to a quick stop.. :wink:

 

[Lessss]

@ 72 volts and that light frame he doesn't really need a chain.
Although one really good pot hole and the wood connectors might split if the GYPROCK screws don't snap their heads off first!! WOW

My scientist man! At the very least replace the gyprock screws with wood screws. Gyprock screws will RUST and the heads will snap like twigs (ever watch holmes on homes?)

Better yet make a metal battery retainer, or switch to a lighter battery chemistry.

 

[steveo]

That's one beefy lookin bike !!! = I like it ! 8)

The frame looks like it has 135mm stock spacing, and that frame will not strech..

Best bet if you insist on staying with the X5 is to go with high-end rim brakes.


The front brakes will provide alot of stopping power, good quality V's on the rear would get you to a quick stop.. :wink:

hey Ypedal ...

Yes your right .. frame has limited space .. i'm unable to fit the rear disk break due to this without modding the motor shaft ...

v breaks it is for the rear as per thats my only option ..

-steveo

 

[steveo]

@ 72 volts and that light frame he doesn't really need a chain.
Although one really good pot hole and the wood connectors might split if the GYPROCK screws don't snap their heads off first!! WOW

My scientist man! At the very least replace the gyprock screws with wood screws. Gyprock screws will RUST and the heads will snap like twigs (ever watch holmes on homes?)

Better yet make a metal battery retainer, or switch to a lighter battery chemistry.

lol ... yes that wood mount is only for the time being .. those are drywall screws .. its what i had extra in my garage .. i'm looking to switch to a123's in some time.. just trying to save up .. that is all ...

-Steveo

 

[steveo]

I wanted to add some more pics on some updates .. for the bike ..

after changing the bearings .. i noticed the bushing still out of whack .. seized and lots of play .....so what i did is by some brass piping from the hobby shop ... created my own shims .. & add washers to stiffen up the play... it worked pretty well .. and cheap ..

...


now .. if there was another solution for fixing my rear wheel disk brake ..

 

[fechter]

The whole disk brake thing sort of sucks. I guess we need skinnier motors.
If there was a brake caliper that was super thin on the hub side, it would be easier to fit.
Going to a larger size disk might help in some cases.

On the bright side, you can probably get adequate braking with vee brakes in the rear.

How many AHr are those batteries?

 

[steveo]

Hey fechter

there just some cheap sla's 6 in series .. 7.5 ah's .. 72v setup ..

i want to go with the 20" wheel in the rear .. what are your thoughts on this? if i do this .. the v brakes will not be an option .. but the acceleration & torque will be better.. then the diy disk break modification would be next.. maybe some shaft shaving ... hmm ..

-steveo

 

[steveo]

PICTURE UPDATE!!

A123 currently 3p 2s 66v setup
Respoked 5304 to 20" RWD
DIY Torque mounts!


I haven't figured out the rear brake yet.. it was either rear brakes or torque arms ... i've decided i will be doing a non-resistive braking setup for the rear .. still have to work on .. but thats what will be used ..


THE BIKE!!

TORQUE MOUNTS ... LOOK FOR KIDS TRAINING WHEELS THEY ARE THE PERFECT SHAFT SIZE

20" WITH TORQUE MOUNT REV 1.O .. :/

a123 Setup.. New battery mount diy for my bike

Custom Balancing harness using 2 a123 Blinky Balancers

Some of the materials i used

 

[Microbatman]

Stevo

Great find on the torque arm!!!!!!

Like that 20 inch wheel. Did you respoke it yourself? What type of tube did you go with?

Battery holder looking nice too!!!!
For the battery holder, if the wood does not hold up try using G10FR4 Garolite sheets.
http://www.mcmaster.com/
Type in g10 and click on sheets.
This stuff is strong and light.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.fr4g10.com/g10_images/micarta_g10.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.fr4g10.com/fr4.htm&h=224&w=300&sz=11&hl=en&start=10&tbnid=_ciyOVbuNdotxM:&tbnh=87&tbnw=116&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dg10%2Bfr4%2Bgarolite%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

Rear brake.
Maybe Band Brakes don't know may not have the room but worth a look.
http://www.users.bigpond.com/solarbbq/bandbrakes.htm

Wish there was a way to bolt on brake bosses to use pull brakes.


The bike is really comming along and looking good. Keep us posted.

 

[steveo]

Hey Microbatman

yes i know torque are were an awesome FInd .. i think i'll do a seperate post for others needing them!

Yes i did re spoke it myself .. alot of time to do is as per i'm a noob .. but its easier then you think .. especially when there not real spoke design with this small of a rim...

battery hold i just completed today .. i think i need some method from underneath to fasten it together .. its strong enough for sure .. the wood is great quality!..

I'll let you know when i get another a123 pack to complete my 66v 2s 3p pack ..

the band brakes don't sound bad I'll look into it further ... i am Very limited in spacing as you can see..... just measured it now .. i have about 5 cm from shaft... outwards...my dam motor is to fat ..

TO do:

i have a harness to make for my other 3 packs ..
put my gear shifter/rear sproket on ..
get a helmet
get my non resistive rear brake going ..
KEEP EYE OUT ON TORQUE ARMS.. WIRES PAIN IN THE @SS TO FIX

 

[D-Man]

Nice drill. Oh, I mean bike. Thats a wild machine you have there. Never seen so many drill packs exposed like that. Don't park near any construction sites. Drill packs might be missing when you get back. :lol:

 

[steveo]

LOL

 

[Ypedal]

Beasty looking machine !!! I like ! :wink:

My norco now feels not so alone !

 

[steveo]

you wana line them up ... hehe

 

[steveo]

Pics update

added on resistive braking .. about 18feet of 22awg .. with a 20.5 amp switch to active the rear brake.

-steveo

 

[Link]

So how fast does it go? Unlike some people I haven't memorized the volt/rpm constants for the entire C-lyte line .

Also: The different sized wheels amuse me. Any reason you didn't just use a torquier motor and a 26"? Efficiency issues?

Worries about snapping the drops 8)?

 

[steveo]

lol ...

at 66v ..

the c/a shows about 56km/h, This is all torque thou..

I wanted to have speed and torque... the 5305 .. it more torque then needed .. this 5304 motor provides more then enough in my opinion but more speed. Put it in a 20" add higher voltage .. and I'll have both speed & torque.

-steve

 

[steveo]

this is a short clip of me on the bike .. TORQUE MONSTER

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpogjb3x7Wk

-steve

 

[fechter]

Dude!, you're going to get in trouble if you start leaving burnt rubber on the kitchen floor..

 

[steveo]

LOL...

you think i compete with lowell

-steve

 

[ngocthach1130]

Hahaha the last time i tested the electric scooter in the living room, the fet blow and i had a run a way S1000 knocking everything over. Rubber mark on the floor is nothing. Try and get rubber mark off carpet. Not possible at all. I used to test the no load max speed of the bike with wheel off the ground and accidental dropping the bike leave nasty streak on the carpet. Still can't get it out till now