Sur-Ron Battery upgrade

I did find the dimensions and weight specs on the ASI site as a small pdf.

These controllers are well regarded, but the more i read up on the complexity of the entire process i don't think they're for me at this time...
 
Hello. I saw in the late 2021 messages that there was no bbshd harness in stock. Did that change? Could it change in the near future? I am interested.
 
Does anyone know where to find the 24pin jst female connector/wiring harness for this controller? please and ty!
BAC 500
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What you need is a JST PADP-24V-1-S connector. JST is the manufacturer. If you do a web search for that part it will perhaps lead you to a supplier.

Did you buy a controller for $50 online and need a connector and programming information? I am considering buying one, but the company protects the configuration software apparently.
 
koco said:
What you need is a JST PADP-24V-1-S connector. JST is the manufacturer. If you do a web search for that part it will perhaps lead you to a supplier.

Did you buy a controller for $50 online and need a connector and programming information? I am considering buying one, but the company protects the configuration software apparently.

Yes I bought a bunch since the price was so good, they are $750 online

I did search that part# obviously but I was unable to find a place to buy them? If you know a link please send it here!

Does anyone have a contact at ASI to get these 24 pin harnesses? These controllers look sweet and they are tiny! But they are useless right now

edit~ and from what ive read you can use the software in the Phaserunner thread to get it working, and this pic above shows pins for usb to ttl to program it, just sourcing the harness is the issue I think
 
Here you can buy the female Plug.
Im searching too for the connectors... I did buy 2 asibac 500 too😁.
But don't know which pins I need for cable to plug in
I found two but don't know.
You get everything on Aliexpress.
I think the 2 different crimp connector are for different thick cables.
A Datasheet for this female plug I found on this Site. (scroll down (PDF).)

https://www.digikey.ch/de/products/detail/jst-sales-america-inc/PADP-24V-1-S/1300227
Female Plug:

€ 4,53 | 10PCS PADP-24V-1-S 24POS 2MM 24PIN
https://a.aliexpress.com/_vpZ7DW


Crimp connector
SPH-001T-P 0,5 L :

€ 12,50 | 100 teile/los SPH-001T-P 0,5 L Stecker 100% Neue und Original
https://a.aliexpress.com/_uQFKYo


Crimp Connector
SPH-002T-P 0,5L

€ 0,77 2%OFF | Original neue 100% SPH-002T-P 0,5 L zinn verbindung paar terminal kontaktieren pin
https://a.aliexpress.com/_vaABWs
 
Oh geez that seems like alot of tiny little finger work, not sure making that harness will be so fun...
Someone want to make 100x of them can have a good little business!

Thank you very much for the links! Looks like everything has to come from China
 
Nice work on sourcing the plugs and pins. Those aren't really a big thing to assemble...just strip, crimp and click them into place in the 24 pin plug.

It would be helpful to know which pins to use to address the BAC500 controller TX, RX etc. I don't quite feel like putting in the investment until I know that there is a workaround. It would be good to know if the open source KT controller software could be made to work on it.

I don't like it when a company holds a secret key to a product I own; it's as if I don't truly own the product and plus they have a habit of going out of business or ending the support of a product line that otherwise still would work.
 
Hi guys

I just joined this forum, not to sure how i can get Martins info details eg contact?
 
martinmertik said:
DanGT86 said:
Could you post a list if the motors you have successfully programmed to these controllers?

untill now:
QS 205
QS 260
QS 273
QS 138
Xofo mid drive
Bafang mid drive
Mxus 3K
Mxus xf40c 1000w
Mxus 5k
Cyclone
Bafang hub motor
ME 1507
Zero 75-7
Bionx hub motor

There is no motor that I had problems with matching it up with controller.

will the bac8000 work with the zero 75-7 or do you have to convert it to hall sensors?
 
TysonScott said:
martinmertik said:
DanGT86 said:
Could you post a list if the motors you have successfully programmed to these controllers?

untill now:
QS 205
QS 260
QS 273
QS 138
Xofo mid drive
Bafang mid drive
Mxus 3K
Mxus xf40c 1000w
Mxus 5k
Cyclone
Bafang hub motor
ME 1507
Zero 75-7
Bionx hub motor

There is no motor that I had problems with matching it up with controller.

will the bac8000 work with the zero 75-7 or do you have to convert it to hall sensors?

It won't. You'll need a hall sensor.
 
@martin mertik.
Did you have any tips to config a Bac 800
Specially to a Mac 10t or Gmac Motor?
 
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32273550144.html

will this work for pc bacdoor connection?

:es: :es: :es:
 
I use this one.
Works fine.
€ 4,37 45%OFF | Bafang USB Programmierung Kabel Für 8fun / BBS01B BBS02B BBSHD Mitte Antrieb/Center Elektrische Fahrrad Motor Programmiert Kabel
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EuaPhB1
 
kgff said:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32273550144.html

will this work for pc bacdoor connection?

:es: :es: :es:

I need to know about this one specifically as it's available locally
 
Just compare the description and technical information from the cable I linked. If they are the same, that should work
 
I bought a 500 off ebay to play with.

till now I have been unable to connect to the controller.

I tried of the TTL to USB converters,

rx to rx
tx to tx
gnd to gnd

and set the converter to 5v.

set baud rate to 9100

no dice,

Did I miss anything?
 
gobi said:
I bought a 500 off ebay to play with.

till now I have been unable to connect to the controller.

I tried of the TTL to USB converters,

rx to rx
tx to tx
gnd to gnd

and set the converter to 5v.

set baud rate to 9100

no dice,

Did I miss anything?
If you did rx-rx tx-tx you may have damaged the controller
 
kgff said:
gobi said:
I bought a 500 off ebay to play with.

till now I have been unable to connect to the controller.

I tried of the TTL to USB converters,

rx to rx
tx to tx
gnd to gnd

and set the converter to 5v.

set baud rate to 9100

no dice,

Did I miss anything?
If you did rx-rx tx-tx you may have damaged the controller

Oh man, I need to read up on TTL stuff, I am have not messed with it after trying to connect it.

Is there anyway to tell if the controller is toast?
 
gobi said:
kgff said:
gobi said:
I bought a 500 off ebay to play with.

till now I have been unable to connect to the controller.

I tried of the TTL to USB converters,

rx to rx
tx to tx
gnd to gnd

and set the converter to 5v.

set baud rate to 9100

no dice,

Did I miss anything?
If you did rx-rx tx-tx you may have damaged the controller

Oh man, I need to read up on TTL stuff, I am have not messed with it after trying to connect it.

Is there anyway to tell if the controller is toast?
I don't want to mislead you, I saw in a screen installation video a warning not to reverse it since it can damage the controller, but now I just found this on google:
https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/262843/is-it-ok-that-i-accidentally-swapped-tx-and-rx-on-a-uart-bus
So hopefully it's okay
 
can someone please share the 6020 or newer firmware update??

Thanksss :bigthumb:
 
kgff said:
gobi said:
kgff said:
gobi said:
I bought a 500 off ebay to play with.

till now I have been unable to connect to the controller.

I tried of the TTL to USB converters,

rx to rx
tx to tx
gnd to gnd

and set the converter to 5v.

set baud rate to 9100

no dice,

Did I miss anything?
If you did rx-rx tx-tx you may have damaged the controller

Oh man, I need to read up on TTL stuff, I am have not messed with it after trying to connect it.

Is there anyway to tell if the controller is toast?
I don't want to mislead you, I saw in a screen installation video a warning not to reverse it since it can damage the controller, but now I just found this on google:
https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/262843/is-it-ok-that-i-accidentally-swapped-tx-and-rx-on-a-uart-bus
So hopefully it's okay
kgff,
phew, thanks a bunch for finding this stackexchange post, I appreciate it, very informative.
I will try again this weekend, my bafang connector was mis delivered by mighty usps to a different address (not getting that one I guess).
I ordered another one off aliexpress, meanwhile I have another usb > TTL dongle I will test with.
 
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