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Magnesium might very well replace Lithium one day. We sure got enough magnesium. And for those that worry about flaming blue burning magnesium yes it will happen if if you grind magnesium to fine powder,or collect shavings and strips and give them H2O. Flame point is almost 3 times higher then Lithium and magnesium has been used commercially for at least 3 decades. One of the KTM Mx 250 I raced had a magnesium swing arm. Can't remember the year exactly as I had a few of those years in a row but mid or late 80's is my guess.
 
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Technology in nutshell

Your Olife battery combines the most advanced technologies from supercapacitors and batteries to deliver a lead-free battery that fully replaces current conventional SLI units.

The supercapacitors in your Olife battery provide the cranking current your motor needs even in extremely low temperatures. The Li-ion battery cells continuously refill the supercapacitors. They also serve as a reliable source of the reserve energy your car‘s electronics need.

The combination of Li-ion battery cells and supercapacitors provides a unique mix of starting power and charge acceptance – making it the perfect technology for our modern world.

Unlike batteries, supercapacitors store and release electrical energy as electric charge and not in the form of bound chemical energy. Thanks to the supercapacitors, almost all of this capacity is available as starting current. The supercapacitors also level out all current peaks during normal operation of your car battery.

http://www.olife-energy.com/en/battery/introduction
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Technical parameters
parameter data
Capacity C20 (Ah) 30
Reserve capacity, RC (mins) 72
Dimensions L×W×H (mm) 242 x 175 x 190
Specific power (Watts/kg) 94.5
Cold cranking amps CCA (amps) EN 300
Weight (kg) 7.2

(As an SLI replacement battery, Olife is equivalent to a 55 Ah to 60 Ah LAB).

Olife GmbH
Germany

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An interesting concept, but the whole cell & supercap assembly could be replaced by 4S of A123 20Ah LiFePO4 pouch cells at a fraction of the size/weight/(and probably)cost. If the ~30Ah capacity is truly required then 4S2P of the 14Ah cells could be used.
 
Yes as a ICE car starter battery they seems fine. How does the capacitors translate to e-bike use?
Are the Olife using new materials, higher grade quality or any other things that sets those caps apart from others?

The price for caps probably is one reason we don't see more use of them for quick discharge applications of li lion cells.
How many and what size caps would be needed to improve e-bike battery peak discharge C? And what would the size and weight of those caps be?

For now maybe better to sink the money onto more cells in parallel?
 
Punx0r said:
An interesting concept, but the whole cell & supercap assembly could be replaced by 4S of A123 20Ah LiFePO4 pouch cells at a fraction of the size/weight/(and probably)cost. If the ~30Ah capacity is truly required then 4S2P of the 14Ah cells could be used.
A bit like the Zero motorcycle the Olife starter battery is proper engineering not some dodgey home made crap that wont last..
Says on their website "Olife technology is designed to provide approximately 235,000 start-cycles."
Like I have said in the past that supercaps to me are about prolonging battery cell lifetime and lowering waste..

Seems like most people who are anti supercap have no ability to think in depth at all.. its just like this guy in this video below at minute 3:30 who as soon as he found out the power companies were reneging on paying him tariffs on his solar panel he decided he couldn't give a crap about it and quite literally says he would "rather they rip it out of here".. When I saw this it helped me understand supercap haters as its all about power and saving money and having no ability to understand lowering environmental waste..
I do kind of blame my self for a lot of these supercap arguments because I just couldn't conceive how short and narrow minded these people are or how much repeating it takes for it to sink in... I only assume it still hasn't..

https://youtu.be/29pvZrCwxbs?t=3m28s
 
Thing is adding a super cap to a battery would give you less range and less range till end of life when compared to adding more battery.

Say you have a 25AH pack and you add a super cap that is about the size of the 25 ah pack.
The super cap can add a bit of peak current draw and help with peak regen but when you compare that to adding another 25ah pack its pointless adding more battery is always the answer. If you have a 25ah pack good for 3000cycles and that gives you about 70,000km till it has 80% of its capacity and you consider that end of life.
And you add a super cap that gets you up to maybe 75,000km till 80% and end of life... But why would you not add another 25 ah battery to get the bike up to 140,000km at 80% capacity and what is considered end of life for the battery.

Super caps are cool but adding more battery always wins.
 
@TheBeastie supercaps are fine - for specific use, ie for amps powering large subwoofers. But I don't think they are the default solution for everything electric.
If you care about battery life, sinking the same amount of money/weight/real-estate as you would with supercaps into more batteries in parallel you could even have a much more long-life approach to your battery pack. Ie stop charging at lower battery voltage on each cell, yet still remain your total desired output voltage. That would put even less stress at each individual cell and help with the good life - more cycles and longer life. For discharge the same. More battery cells = less strain and stress on each individual cell. Result longer life and discharge cycles.

People on ES has already done 20.000 km on the same pack over 5-6 years. Pack is still decent. Iirc that was done on Lipo. And conservative charging and good battery management. Imagine li ion would at least outshine that by a factor of 2 or 3 if pampered properly.

If you build a large capacity pack from quality cells and take good care of your battery I am sure you can do 8-10 years on your e-bike before you need to upgrade. Maybe even more if you started out with a true overbuild pack. Imagine what will be available in 10-12 years from now? Triple the range and half the weight? Or even better specs? At an all time low initial cost?
 
The purpose of the Olife battery is just to start your car. Longevity of LiFePO4 with cold cranking amps. For that purpose it looks like a good idea to me.

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One of the few benefits of capacitors in-line with a chemical battery is that: the initial peak current draw can be accessed in extremely cold weather, see: Russia and Canada...
 
"Swiss researchers enhance Li-ion batteries with improved electrode design"
https://chargedevs.com/newswire/swi...y-performance-with-improved-electrode-design/

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“The diffusion of charge carriers across thick graphite electrodes is often reduced by the high tortuosity of the porous anode structure, particularly when anisotropic flake-like particles are used,” write the Swiss team. “Aligning graphite flakes perpendicularly to the current collector could ease the transport of the charge carriers within the anode by creating short diffusion paths and exposing preferential insertion/extraction sites.”
 
The regular hype bullshit or the real thing this time?

"Graphene batteries may slash your phone recharge time to 15 minutes"

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/dongxu-graphene-battery-pack-15-minutes-recharge-news/
 
V.helpful! ... ermmm... helpfulguy... "Search (on ES) found 1 match: +dongxu" ie your post here. Seems like a new company "out of the blue" on ES. 8)

Tks!

Discharge rate 5C. :) 4800 mAh cell good for or better than 3500 cycles. Claimed good for -30C (though don't know if other specs affected by low/high temps).

That graphene stuff strikes again!
 
http://la.streetsblog.org/2016/07/1...es-turn-drab-bikes-into-colorful-motorcycles/
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Energizer batteries are trying to appeal to consumer ecological consciences by “taking worn out batteries and making them into something strong” in the company’s new EcoAdvanced battery line. What better way to be ecological than to appeal to urban cyclists? In the above commercial, the Energizer Bunny helps out tired riders by turning their bicycles into fantastic motorcycles. Not cool and not eco.
First off, take a look at Energizer’s portrayal of urban bicyclists.

In the Energizer commercial’s world, there are lots of cyclists, but all their bikes are old and crappy. One bike, at 0:02, has a derailleur but no chain. Few of the bikes actually fit their riders, so the cyclists look cramped and uncomfortable.

Secondly, how does electricity help cyclists? Does transforming a bicycle – a truly environmentally-friendly human-powered vehicle – into a petroleum-burning motorcycle really serve the environment? Do urban cyclists really want to ditch their trusty steeds?

Energizer seems to understand that bicycling and bicyclists sell environmental leadership. For example, see this Energizer “how do you spot a leader?” video at 0:27. Energizer’s commitment to recycling battery materials appears laudable, but why not join with environmental leaders by affirming bicycling? Cyclists are Energizer’s customers. Batteries in bike lights to keep cyclists safe. Why not portray how fun, fast, and free urban cycling can be? Why not celebrate cycle chic by showing stylish bicycles and attractive fashion?

What do you think, readers? Can you come up with an Energizer Bunny commercial treatment that would affirm urban cycling? Add your thoughts in the comments below.
 
The fingers said:
Energizer batteries are trying to appeal to consumer ecological consciences by “taking worn out batteries and making them into something strong” in the company’s new EcoAdvanced battery line. What better way to be ecological than to appeal to urban cyclists? In the above commercial, the Energizer Bunny helps out tired riders by turning their bicycles into fantastic motorcycles. Not cool and not eco.
First off, take a look at Energizer’s portrayal of urban bicyclists.

Notice at the end it says they're made with 4% recycled content. What a crock of rabbit pellets.
 
So... do breakthroughs in battery CASES qualify for this thread?

So far, ES "Search found 6 matches: +"line x""

This stuff:
http://www.linex.com/

... being sold as truck bedliners. BUT, this spray makes things almost indestructible.

[youtube]30Q4HK7wcJE[/youtube]

So I'm thinking battery cases/shells covering/wrapped around batteries.
 
LockH said:
So... do breakthroughs in battery CASES qualify for this thread?

So far, ES "Search found 6 matches: +"line x""

This stuff:
http://www.linex.com/

... being sold as truck bedliners. BUT, this spray makes things almost indestructible.

[youtube]30Q4HK7wcJE[/youtube]

So I'm thinking battery cases/shells covering/wrapped around batteries.


Why didn't they cut open the lining after they dropped it, so we can see what it looks like on the inside? Maybe it's just working like the lamination's in bullet proof/safety glass, the glass still breaks, but the lamination's hold the shards together.
 
Graphene strikes again...

"New graphene super batteries charge up in seconds and last virtually forever"
http://inhabitat.com/new-graphene-super-batteries-charge-up-in-seconds-and-last-virtually-forever/

The new supercapacitor’s ultra-quick charging time—just seconds compared to the minutes or hours needed by a lithium-based battery—is its primary selling point, as it eliminates the inconvenience of long charging times. The graphene-enhanced battery also costs less than a traditional lithium ion battery over the course of its lifetime, due to its unique ability to withstand more recharges without losing strength.

Han presented his new supercapacitor at Fresh Science Victoria 2016 earlier this year.
 
"High-voltage lithium-ion battery realized with superconcentrated electrolyte"
https://techxplore.com/news/2016-07...on-battery-superconcentrated-electrolyte.html
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A battery with the new superconcentrated electrolyte (red line) has a capacity retention of more than 90% over 100 cycles, whereas a battery with a common commercial electrolyte (black line) has a capacity retention of less than 30% over 100 cycles. Credit: Wang et al. Nature Communications

In general, the capacity loss that plagues most high-voltage lithium-ion batteries developed to date results from a tradeoff related to the electrolyte salt stability. A highly stable electrolyte salt has the advantage of suppressing the dissolution of the battery's transition metal electrode, but also has the disadvantage of accelerating the dissolution of the battery's aluminum current collector. An unstable electrolyte salt (for example, the widely used LiPF6) has the exact opposite effects. In either case, the dissolution results in severe capacity loss.

In the new study, the researchers have overcome this electrolyte tradeoff by mixing a stable lithium salt (LiN[SO2F]2 and related formulas) in a solvent at an extremely high concentration of 1:1.1, so that nearly half of the solution is lithium salt. Whereas a slightly less concentrated solution of 1:2 still suffers from unwanted aluminum dissolution and high capacity loss, the superconcentrated solution manages to overcome the electrolyte tradeoff due to its unusual 3D liquid structure.

"At present, the biggest challenge is materials cost, because the LiN(SO2F)2 salt is currently more expensive than currently used LiPF6 salt," Yamada said. "However, the mass production of the LiN(SO2F)2 salt has recently been initiated and is becoming increasingly available at much lower cost. Hence, we expect that the cost will not be a problem in the future. Moreover, the cost of electrolyte is only less than 7% of the total battery price."

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James_B said:
What do you think about this?
"Her battery can extend Tesla's mileage by 70 percent"

Article (July 2016)
https://translate.google.se/transla...2016/07/22/cadenzas-litiumbatteri/&edit-text=

Original
http://www.va.se/nyheter/2016/07/22/cadenzas-litiumbatteri/
Here's the same article in English: The Queen of Batteries unveils her new invention that can increase the range of Teslas by 70%
http://nordic.businessinsider.com/the-queen-of-batteries-unveils-her-new-invention-that-can-increase-the-range-of-teslas-by-70-2016-7/

Another article: Boston-Power Vets Take New Approach With Battery Startup Cadenza
http://www.xconomy.com/boston/2016/07/29/boston-power-vets-take-new-approach-with-battery-startup-cadenza/

Links to other articles at their website http://cadenzainnovation.com/news/

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