Using e-car battery for home electricity backup?

nicobie

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In about a month I'll be getting 4kW worth of solar panels and was wondering if it is possible to use your electric car batteries as a backup for power outages or when it's night. Seems like somebody should be making such a thing.

I don't have a e-car now, but having a way to use the cars batteries as a backup or for storage might just push me over the line to buy one.
 
that is Tesla's business model. sell car and panels so you can cancel your electric service (sometimes)
 
You will need an inverter, that takes in whatever voltage your car's battery pack is, and convert it to AC...
(Or change all your appliances etc. to run on the DC output of your car battery pack.)
Plus an automatic interface switch panel to your grid electric input.
And a charge controller to match your panel output to your car battery pack.

Either way you are looking at several thousand dollars (above the cost of the car and panels) more money to make it work...

Is it possible? Yes.

Is it practical?
No.
 
I figured that I'd need a dc to ac inverter for the car to the house ac. (about $1300)

Doesn't what comes with the panels have a auto interface switch to protect lineman when the power goes out?

And doesn't the solar system already provide 220ac that I can use to charge the car?

I must be missing something. :?
 
nicobie said:
I figured that I'd need a dc to ac inverter for the car to the house ac. (about $1300)

That is a lowball price for a whole house inverter, probably only get about 1.5 -2.0 KW and square wave or modified sine wave at that price.

For a lot of appliances to work right, you need pure sine wave. Resistive loads don't care what sort of AC (or even DC) they get, but things like air conditioners, televisions, refrigerators etc. don't like square wave at all, and aren't happy with modified sine wave.

I consider these to be the minimal for comfortable living:
http://www.solar-electric.com/inverters-controllers-accessories/inverters/maenin/maensiwainac/maenms4040wa.html
"SHTF temporary stuff, Just running the absolute necessities, yeah, you can get by with less.

Doesn't what comes with the panels have a auto interface switch to protect lineman when the power goes out?

No. You need something like this... *
http://www.solar-electric.com/installation-parts-and-equipment/electrical-devices-transfer-switches-noise-filters/autrswandgea/pmts-50.html
and it absolutely must be installed by an approved electrician on any grid tied system, and inspected by the power company.
And doesn't the solar system already provide 220ac that I can use to charge the car?

No. Most individual solar panels have a nominal output of between 12VDC and 48VDC... And even if you put them in series to make 220V, you need an inverter in between them and your battery charger if you want 220VAC ...

I must be missing something. :?

Missing a lot of things, unless I misread your first post.

* UNLESS...Perhaps you meant a complete 'turnkey' solar system, rather than merely 4KW of solar panels?

If you have a link to whatever solar panels or system you are getting, or can post a full description of all the stuff that is coming, then I can help you out better. Plus the battery pack specifications of whatever E-car you are thinking of getting, to see how practical it would be to use your car for power storage.

and how you actually intend to use it... Merely SHTF use, or regular use.

Now if it is just SHTF you want it for, and run an extension cord or two in through the window, not tied to your regular wall outlets, then you can get by on less.. But even then, it wont be particularly practical, as you will likely have to reconfigure your battery pack to match the inverter.
 
Fecal matter hitting the air circulating device, in polite terms.

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